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Smallholding => Buildings & planning => Topic started by: Jane & Richard Suffolk on June 05, 2016, 09:46:09 am

Title: Barn construction
Post by: Jane & Richard Suffolk on June 05, 2016, 09:46:09 am
Hi
I'm trying to find out information about building a barn as I need some where to store equipment, hay, straw and section for lambing.
But I thing it will be turned down unless I find out more reasons to justify its requirement. We have several theft from our smallholding (12 in the last 18 months)
Ranging from tool,ride on mowers,electric fencingcomplte setup around the field.
So I feel we are very vulnerable.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Richard & Jane.
Title: Re: Barn construction
Post by: farmershort on June 05, 2016, 09:57:54 am
Hi
I'm trying to find out information about building a barn as I need some where to store equipment, hay, straw and section for lambing.
But I thing it will be turned down unless I find out more reasons to justify its requirement. We have several theft from our smallholding (12 in the last 18 months)
Ranging from tool,ride on mowers,electric fencingcomplte setup around the field.
So I feel we are very vulnerable.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Richard & Jane.

How many acres is the whole holding?
Title: Re: Barn construction
Post by: Buttermilk on June 05, 2016, 10:00:54 am
Word your application as a general storage barn, do not mention livestock as that then involves more hoops to jump through.  We just applied for a steel framed portal barn but you could describe a couple of sides as concrete panal bottom and yorkshire boarding upper.  Making it secure will happen after it is built of course.
Title: Re: Barn construction
Post by: Rhea on June 05, 2016, 03:27:40 pm
We're about to go through the same thing and were told to stress the amount of land we have, and all the tools that takes to maintain (tractor/quad, topper, trailer......)

Good luck  :fc:
Title: Re: Barn construction
Post by: greenbeast on June 06, 2016, 09:43:56 am
Security is not sufficient reason unfortunately, more down to agricultural need, you potentially need to be detailed about what you will store in there to justify the space.
The holding size will determine what permitted development rights you have
Title: Re: Barn construction
Post by: henchard on June 06, 2016, 09:49:47 am
If your wanting to keep stuff secure wouldn't a shipping container be a better idea? Mine is one of the best things I ever bought.

As far as I know, as they can be moved, they don't need planning permission. I may be wrong though.
Title: Re: Barn construction
Post by: pgkevet on June 06, 2016, 10:16:30 am
You might also look at what and how much can be defined as the house's curtilage.. you can cover a good proportion of that with sheds and greenhouses etc albeit within their own planning rules. It might not have the height of a typical barn but may still be more than sufficient for small flock numbers.
I was lucky here that Mr Planner himself redefined my curtilage to be several acres (due to some illegal planting by a predecessor long enough ago to have amnesty). I believe I could cover 50% of that in garden sheds and polytunnels if i so wished.