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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: HappyHippy on April 19, 2016, 04:55:52 pm

Title: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: HappyHippy on April 19, 2016, 04:55:52 pm
I'd had a message from a friend who got three castrated kunekune boars from us a few years ago to keep as pets/possibly pork. They all ended up as pets  ;)
Anyway, one has a sore foot so the vet has been called to come and sedate him so that a full examination can be carried out. I mentioned that it was worth trimming his tusks (since he'll be sedated anyway) as they're fairly long and could present an injury risk. The vet has come back to her and said, wait for it.....
They don't agree with trimming tusks because their receptionist is on a forum with vets and others where they consider the practice barbaric  :o
Now, detusking I can understand (awful practice and not one I'd ever recommend) but a wee trim is not going to do any harm - could potentially do more harm if not trimmed.
I'm sure the vet has misunderstood what is needed, but at the same time how much confidence should you have in a vet who takes advice that their receptionist has gleaned from the internet?
Discuss  ;)
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: hughesy on April 19, 2016, 05:38:42 pm
Nothing wrong with trimming tusks. We never do it but I would if injuries to sows etc became a problem. And certainly if our boar had any aggression in him at all. Change your vet they're obviously nuts.
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: Penninehillbilly on April 19, 2016, 05:51:49 pm
I find it amazing that a receptionist can dictate whether a vet can do a simple trimming/possibly animal welfare issue! If client and vet can't work it out between them then it's time to find a vet with his own mind!!!
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: oaklandspigs on April 19, 2016, 06:03:32 pm
The 1st inch is live, after that it is dead tooth.

The practice used to be to trim down to the gumline, which just leads to pain and infection, and certainly shouldn't be done.

Link to a site quoting some research

http://nationalhogfarmer.com/behavior-welfare/trim-boar-tusks-with-care (http://nationalhogfarmer.com/behavior-welfare/trim-boar-tusks-with-care)

We trim where it is needed, and used to regularly trim one of our boars who tusks headed back towards his cheeks.  We did it whilst he was sleeping and only took the very end off.

 
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: greenbeast on April 20, 2016, 08:59:11 am
We did it whilst he was sleeping and only took the very end off.

Ha ha, sounds like a stress-free experience..... :p
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: Hellybee on April 20, 2016, 10:41:13 am
Eh? I don't know the drill but listening to the receptionist?
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: kja on April 20, 2016, 02:03:59 pm
I would be looking for a new vets !!.

We de-tusk all our boars, not worth taking chances as we have grandchildren around and wont tempt fate. Had a friend that had a nasty do with a boar and his tusk hospital treatment etc etc.

We don't sedate as the whole thing can be done stress free quicker than the sedative takes to work. Pig holder and de-horning wire.
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: harmony on April 20, 2016, 02:49:31 pm
 A boar doesn't have to be acting aggressively to do damage with long tusks.


These are clearly not farm vets with an attitude like that so I would be questioning their ability with farm animals in general and looking elsewhere.





Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: Rosemary on April 20, 2016, 02:59:34 pm
 ::) Oh dear.
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: Marches Farmer on April 20, 2016, 03:32:00 pm
Boars over one year have to have their tusks trimmed in order to be shown, for reasons of public safety.  Even if the boar isn't being aggressive tusks can catch on things like waterproofs and with the weight of a boar behind the hook serious damage can occur.  I know of one very well known figure in the pig world who was seriously injured by a boar.  Do we trim our boars' tusks?   You betcha!  I, too, would be seriously questioning the judgement of a vet relying on a serious animal welfare and human safety issue decided by a receptionist surfing the 'Net.
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: HappyHippy on April 20, 2016, 04:05:37 pm
Phew, so glad you all agree  :relief:
I thought I was turning into a cranky old lady  ;)
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: greenbeast on April 21, 2016, 09:21:24 am
I'm glad this came up, we just got our first boar (for keeps) and so i will bear this in mind and talk to the OH (a vet)
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: roddycm on April 21, 2016, 01:43:34 pm
Lots of how to videos on youtube! As long as you don't cut too short it doesn't bother them at all... They go straight back to rooting around and eating. I was researching as I got my first boar recently, and I will Def do his tusks when the time comes! He is a pedigree pietrain and only 3 months right now so it will be a while yet :)
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: Jullienne on April 21, 2016, 01:48:01 pm
how do you cut the tusks on a boar? Because they are quite thickish arent they? (not thinking wild here). do you literally chomp off the ends?
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: Marches Farmer on April 21, 2016, 03:10:47 pm
I get the vet in to do our boars when they're a year old.  Sedative and horse dentistry rasp.  Only takes a few minutes once they're down.
Title: Re: Trimming boars' tusks - barbaric?
Post by: HappyHippy on April 21, 2016, 05:00:18 pm
We do ours by giving a sedative then 'sawing' off the tusk using calf dehorning wire (like thick cheese wire) takes about 5 minutes  :thumbsup: