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Pets & Working Animals => Horses, ponies, donkeys & mules => Topic started by: Duckduckgoose on March 20, 2016, 03:00:21 pm

Title: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Duckduckgoose on March 20, 2016, 03:00:21 pm
It's been a hard week here. We lost our 8 year old Shetland pony to grass sickness on Wednesday morning. she was just quiet and not right and thinking that she was about to colic I called the vet out and tried to keep her walking. She went down just as the vet arrived and she proceeded to treat her for colic as that's what she thought too. The situation went from thinking she just needed fluids to her being so bad and in so much pain that she had to be put to sleep within 2 hours. the children and I are utterly devastated.
Just wanted to put that out there. Its the first time I've seen a pony with grass sickness and it was shocking how rapidly she deteriorated.
Anyone else on here have any experience of this?
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Brandi on March 20, 2016, 03:23:15 pm
  :hug: I am so so so sorry for your loss, fortunately I don't have any experience of this but I know that it can be devastating as it has been for you and your family, such a difficult experirnce for you.  Please take some consolation from the fact that you did everything humanly possible. :hug:
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: CarolineJ on March 20, 2016, 03:31:10 pm
Very, very sorry for your loss.  My neighbours lost one to GS just before we moved here 8 years ago, it's horribly quick.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Duckduckgoose on March 20, 2016, 03:43:49 pm
Thanks guys, she was such a loving young mare who i'd just broken for my 4 and 2 year old who were loving riding her around our place. I had had to put my Welsh D mare away as a companion 2 weeks before because she had ongoing foot issues. There are most definitely horse and pony sized holes in our lives just now!
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: shygirl on March 20, 2016, 04:32:30 pm
do I remember right that you just moved there?

sorry for your loss  :bouquet:
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: harmony on March 20, 2016, 05:15:25 pm
Really sorry for you and your children  :hug:


I lost a lovely mare a couple of years ago with this. Like yours she seemed a touch colicky and the vet treated as such and in my experience I expected her to improve but she didn't and I called the vet again mid day and we were still going down the colic route but something didn't quite add up. Most of the day she was very quiet and wandered a little, got up and down but you would have expected a colic to have cleared with the treatment she had or escalate and nothing much changed all day. Then suddenly in the afternoon she jumped up and sweat just poured out of her and she seemed to go into shock. I called the vet and we had both by then decided it wasn't colic and he had spoken to another vet and by the time he arrived we were both thinking grass sickness. She had calmed a bit but clearly she was not going to make it and we had her PTS.


In the following days a friend lost her stallion and we heard of another locally.


It was following a wet cold period where temperatures didn't get into double figures and it was April time. It has been drier and warmer here but there is a lot of poached ground so that may be a factor.


Walking a horse with suspected colic is viewed as a rather old fashioned treatment now and actually may do more harm depending on the type of colic.


As I said really sorry for you and your family.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on March 20, 2016, 05:16:37 pm
I am so sorry to hear that it must be devasting for you all. I will certainly keep on the alert. Does this also apply to sheep and bovine? Or is it just for horses?
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Duckduckgoose on March 20, 2016, 05:58:06 pm
Yes we moved here at the start of last year and got Vicci shortly after to break for my children. She took to it like a duck to water. I'd known her since she was a foal as she was bred by my friend.
really sorry to hear all your stories too. My neighbour half a mile away had a horse with colic the day after and he was  panicking it was grass sickness as well. His gelding has recovered though thanks goodness.
WBF I think grass sickness is just horses, its certainly where I've heard of it. Not sure if there's an equivalent in sheep and cattle??
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: shygirl on March 20, 2016, 08:56:59 pm
I think its land related aswell.
poor you though, would be awful x
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Rosemary on March 20, 2016, 09:12:34 pm
Sorry to hear this. Not experienced it personally, thankfully, although a few were lost to grass sickness over the years at the livery yard we used to be at.

NE Scotland is particularly bad for GS. In fact, the epicentre is here in Carnoustie. Speculation is that Army remounts at Barry Buddon brought something back from the Crimea or that it is linked to the common practice of spreading guano on the fields in the NE many years ago.

Very sad.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: shygirl on March 20, 2016, 09:15:34 pm
. Speculation is that Army remounts at Barry Buddon brought something back from the Crimea or that it is linked to the common practice of spreading guano on the fields in the NE many years ago.

can you elaborate? whats guano?
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Rosemary on March 20, 2016, 09:20:34 pm
. Speculation is that Army remounts at Barry Buddon brought something back from the Crimea or that it is linked to the common practice of spreading guano on the fields in the NE many years ago.

can you elaborate? whats guano?

Seabird dung. It used to be imported and spread as a fertiliser.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: shygirl on March 20, 2016, 09:22:02 pm
oh. thanks.

theres interesting research online.

 :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Buttermilk on March 21, 2016, 08:23:51 am
At farm we used to keep our horses at 40 years ago, a retired farm worker told us of one field which was not a horse field and never to use it.  A few years later when he had died and we had moved some more people had horses there and grazed that field.  They lost three young irish draughts that summer, all to grass sickness.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: shygirl on March 21, 2016, 10:47:49 am
my vet had said they thought it was the same thing as "botox" which paralyses the gut and takes 3 months to wear off. obviously a pony cant survive gut paralysis for 3 month.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: lord flynn on March 23, 2016, 12:57:20 pm
sorry to hear this, I did my PhD in grass sickness back in the day (the C botulinum hypothesis). Horrid disease, part of the reason I feed hay year round but some people follow all the guidelines and are still unlucky.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Duckduckgoose on March 23, 2016, 02:08:10 pm
Thanks Lord Flynn
I had been feeding hay too but unfortunately it still hit. It's horrible to think that there's no real treatment for it.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: harmony on March 26, 2016, 07:48:19 am
my vet had said they thought it was the same thing as "botox" which paralyses the gut and takes 3 months to wear off. obviously a pony cant survive gut paralysis for 3 month.


There is acute and chronic grass sickness.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: sabrina on March 27, 2016, 09:48:16 am
Having seen both types of grass sickness over the years I dread this time of year. It is true that it does appear on some land time and time again but it can also affect only one in a group all on the same grazing. I too feed hay all year round.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Midas on April 02, 2016, 07:59:49 am
So sorry to hear about your pony, it is very brave of you to share on here for other people to read about and take note of.  Best wishes to you and your family. x
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Duckduckgoose on April 06, 2016, 02:42:50 pm
Thanks for all your messages. It's horrible to think that this awful sickness has touched so many people. The Children are missing Vicci their pony and have asked if we can start looking for another even though they know that no two ponies are the same. They are missing having someone to fuss over and spend time with and it's breaking my heart a bit  :'( :horse:
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: mowhaugh on April 08, 2016, 10:21:41 pm
So sorry to hear this. We also lost our children's pony nearly two weeks ago now, my older two (5 and 4) are still crying themselves to sleep, I am thinking I might need to see if I can get some help for them. It has been a big shock how devastated they are, they have lost a couple of family members and were upset but very philosophical, but this seems to have completely broken them.
Title: Re: Grass Sickness - Lost Shetland
Post by: Brandi on April 08, 2016, 10:49:38 pm
 :hug: look after yourself, it takes its toll on you as well, big hugs and small steps forward