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Smallholding => Equipment => Topic started by: Jaymac76 on November 25, 2015, 07:56:57 am

Title: Tractor advice
Post by: Jaymac76 on November 25, 2015, 07:56:57 am
Hi all, I thinking of buying a tractor but not to sure to buy a cheap new one or secondhand, I have been looking at a new landlegend with a starting price of £5500 + vat + delivery approx £500 I am still looking to better this deal. Has anyone got a landlegend tractor, how long have you owned it, new or secondhand, any problems, how easy was it to get spare parts. Has anyone got a landlegend in central Scotland that I could have a look at as all the dealers are in England.

Cheers
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: jbthecamel on November 25, 2015, 08:40:56 am
Second hand values tell the story of how valued machines are.  I was in the same boat and ended up with a second hand low hours kubota which i am very happy with.  The 7k you are looking at spending will go a LONG way in the second hand market........
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: greenbeast on November 25, 2015, 11:47:01 am
wow, i could have bought 4 of my 2nd hand zetors for that
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: Jaymac76 on November 25, 2015, 10:48:12 pm
 Hi, I agree with you both but yes there is always a but lol I have a secondhand Kubota B7100 with approx 2500 hours just now and cost me a fortune last year with parts and was vey late at getting things planted as The tractor had a major break down, so my thought behind it was buy new a more reliable. I am looking for small tractor with cab 4x4 must be cheap on parts if possible lol.
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: johnhooper on December 16, 2015, 01:12:46 pm
Hello =- this will be my first post ! Like Jaymac 76, I am also looking at the Land Legend offers, and would also like some feedback if possible. I am looking at the 25hp version, with front loader and backhoe. Chinese tractors have been getting a bad press, but I saw them in the flesh yesterday, and they looked pretty solid. I appreciate that this is not the same as operating them, and gives no indication of how they hold up after a few years. Any experiences would be gratefully received. In particular, anybody who can indicate if the backhoe digs efficiently. My work would be mostly topping grass and bramble, clearing out existing ditches, mole ploughing wet clay soil, digging some drainage channels, and maybe dragging a few trees out of the way, and to a storage area. The land is flat. Thanks in advance of your help.
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: Dav275 on December 16, 2015, 04:20:23 pm
I have a 25hp Mahindra, (similar to Land Legend) with front loader & backhoe.  Bought it nearly new ( 150hrs on clock)  about  3 years ago from a dealer down near Bristol.  Dealer has since gone bust, but the tractor has been great.  Very reliable & does all I need.

Runs a Fleming topper,  large log splitter + general moving stuff around. Did use the backhoe to dig a hole & bury a 30ft shipping container.  Was rather slow, but got there eventually.  Not really used it much since, and was thinking of selling it, as I now have access to a big digger.

The tractor though is useful & despite comments about chinese equipment has not given me any problems.  Spares/service items are available online.

Good points:   Compact, easy to use
                       Fuel economy
                       Reliable

Bad points:      Front tyres are a bit skinny/ prone to dig in (Might just be our boggy land).
                       A bit unstable on hills ( greatly improved since filling tyres with antifreeze).

Hope this helps. Any questions, just ask.
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: johnhooper on December 17, 2015, 01:16:22 pm
Thank you Dave,
I was hoping somebody would come forward with a considered response, rather than knee jerk reaction. This is great, and gives me confidence that I will not be wasting my money. I will be using what I buy at a fairly low intensity level, so I think I will have pretty much the same experience as you.
Thanks again - I will try to remember to report back in around a year, and make people aware of how it has gone.
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: jbthecamel on December 22, 2015, 12:16:18 pm
if you really want a cheap solution why not buy one of the ones that arrives in kit form and you build it yourself.  I think they are about 3k, but i may be wrong

At least you'll know how it comes apart of you need to do any work on it.



 
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: Jaymac76 on December 22, 2015, 07:04:57 pm
Not to sure if 3k will buy a flat pack tractor if you know of one please point me in the right direction. I am still looking for a tractor, I am looking at solis as I have been told they are good quality and built to last just need to get one at the right price. If anyone has a solis tractor please get in touch and tell me what you think of them.
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: stufe35 on December 22, 2015, 07:51:15 pm
My suggestion would be something like this (as an example)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Massey-240-Tractor-/291643656704?hash=item43e7510a00:g:m2EAAOSwBLlVHCgd (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Massey-240-Tractor-/291643656704?hash=item43e7510a00:g:m2EAAOSwBLlVHCgd)

It will be still running 40 years after the other stuff you are looking at has gone to the scrap yard.
Insurance will be cheaper
Parts will be cheaper and will always be available.
It will not go down in value. It will probably go up.
Your local tractor dealer, agricultural engineer will service it and fix it if it ever needs it.

The difficult part is knowing when you've found a good one...but you should be able to find one easily within your budget.
Another possibility (example)...no where near central Scotland I appreciate...but internationals are good strong basic tractors too with good cheap parts back up. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/International-Tractor-/181960532086?hash=item2a5db16076:g:YtEAAOSw3KFWdEjD (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/International-Tractor-/181960532086?hash=item2a5db16076:g:YtEAAOSw3KFWdEjD)
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: ricardodba on December 30, 2015, 10:28:36 am
Hi Guys,

I'm looking for a mini tractor too...it will make my life much easier!!...it will only be used to work on my small holding...and that is only 1.5 acres...the land tends to get a bit wet and boggy (although i intend to put land/french drains in over the coming years).
I used to drive a kubota on the golf course i worked on...it had specialised 'grass' wheels to stop tearing up the grass...want somthing similar...but all comes down to budget. It will be needed to top wreeds and cut grass
If i can get one with a front loader, even better!!

Any advice on what to get?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: Jaymac76 on January 04, 2016, 11:03:42 pm
Thanks for all the good advice on buying a tractor, I decided not to buy one of the cheap new tractors and bought a ford 3910 approx 30 years old hope it lasts another 30. Anyone here use a 3910 as I would appreciate any information on the tractor good or bad.
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: DaveJ-L on March 07, 2016, 10:42:28 pm
You need consider what do you require the tractor for - is it just towing/pulling or other things - this will effect the size and the weight. What was key to me was having a loader and the ability in future to lift large bales. I started looking at 'older' machines, a lot of which are often taken in as part exchange at dealers or try the auctioneers (website or eBay). Whilst many of the older tractors were being bought, refurbished and stripped of all attachments for shipping to Africa it seems that the market has dried up (info from local source who was doing this). You should be able to get something good for the price of a new Chinese model.

I was lucky to get a 1978 MF575 with loader and spreader for a good price; it had been used for the last 20 years for clearing snow and ice so was/is suffering from salt corrosion around the cab. Mechanically its is sound and many spare parts are available; also you can often get a copy of the parts and service manuals on eBay which helps. whilst I've still got some work to do on the body etc and a few mechanical parts it's not stopped be using. I've probably done 60-70 hours in it since early December clearing earth and rocks for our self-build.
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: Drummournie on March 09, 2016, 04:53:34 pm
Jaymac - any more on your Ford? I am planning to buy the same model to run a 5ft topper etc, was just wondering how you were finding it?
Title: Re: Tractor advice
Post by: Jaymac76 on March 09, 2016, 10:24:37 pm
Hi, my 3910 ford is just a little to big for what I need it for, the tractor size I need is between a kubota b7100 and the ford 3910. What I like about the ford is very cheap for spare parts new or secondhand. When I have time it will be listed on eBay for sale or swap for smaller tractor.