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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: SallyintNorth on June 29, 2015, 08:29:10 pm

Title: Poodle crosses - when can you tell if they are (not) shedders
Post by: SallyintNorth on June 29, 2015, 08:29:10 pm
So, if someone had a litter of poodles cross something-that-sheds, at what point and how can one tell if each pup is a shedder or not?
Title: Re: Poodle crosses - when can you tell if they are (not) shedders
Post by: Mammyshaz on June 29, 2015, 09:12:47 pm
I don't know for sure but I'd imagine it would be when the adult coat starts to develop then some shedding will begin from the shedder type coats, around 4 months old.
Statistically there is only one in four pups from poodle crosses likely to be a non shedder. ( unless they come from the line bred from Australia which has been developed over generations as non-moulting.

It may be worth whoever is considering g the cross to also read this   :thinking:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201404/designer-dog-maker-regrets-his-creation (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201404/designer-dog-maker-regrets-his-creation)
Title: Re: Poodle crosses - when can you tell if they are (not) shedders
Post by: doganjo on June 29, 2015, 10:36:22 pm
I don't know for sure but I'd imagine it would be when the adult coat starts to develop then some shedding will begin from the shedder type coats, around 4 months old.
Statistically there is only one in four pups from poodle crosses likely to be a non shedder. ( unless they come from the line bred from Australia which has been developed over generations as non-moulting.

It may be worth whoever is considering g the cross to also read this   :thinking:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201404/designer-dog-maker-regrets-his-creation (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201404/designer-dog-maker-regrets-his-creation)
Even some of the Australian 'doodles shed.  I have a friend who has two aussie girls - one 3 the other 1 - both shed.
Title: Re: Poodle crosses - when can you tell if they are (not) shedders
Post by: Baois Glas on July 16, 2015, 12:33:05 pm
I would say when they are adults you will know for sure, there as so many variations in poodle crosses coats that you just don't know what they will end up like.
Title: Re: Poodle crosses - when can you tell if they are (not) shedders
Post by: doganjo on July 16, 2015, 12:41:44 pm
I'd agree that you can't tell until the adult coat has come through - so buying a doodle of any kind as a hypoallergenic pet is just hoo ha! 50/50 chance! :innocent:

Also with mongrels and crosses you have no idea what size they will be, nor what temperament.
Title: Re: Poodle crosses - when can you tell if they are (not) shedders
Post by: SallyintNorth on July 16, 2015, 01:50:02 pm
Thanks folks.

Done some more reading.  I think I've used good sources, but please do correct me if I have any of this wrong.

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It’s not wool, it’s fur. And it’s not hypoallergenic per se. What is it, is that poodles shed less, due to the hairs having a longer growing period and being curly, which factors combine to trap shed hair in the coat, and dander along with it.

But the coat needs combing frequently or the hairs which have shed and are trapped will start to matt, and then you have a welfare issue.

That last bothers me more than anything regarding the proliferation of poodle crosses.  If people don't realise that the coat needs frequent care, then how many of these lovely dogs are going to end up matted and uncomfortable?

Meanwhile, I discovered a cut for a regular poodle that I really love.  It's off the Wiki poodle page
Title: Re: Poodle crosses - when can you tell if they are (not) shedders
Post by: doganjo on July 16, 2015, 03:12:22 pm
Because doodles are being bred for money - conning people into thinking they are hypoallergenic when only some of them are.  It's the dander that causes allergies in a lot of cases anyway rather than the hair.
Labradors are not HA, nor are cockers. 

Poodles don't shed, they have to be trimmed'

Labs shed - like crazy!!!!!!

You pays your money and you takes your chance!  :innocent:
Title: Re: Poodle crosses - when can you tell if they are (not) shedders
Post by: Marches Farmer on July 16, 2015, 03:21:17 pm
This all reminds me of the handbag dogs, then the micropigs.....  Some people made a lot of money and a lot of animals had a pretty miserable life.
Title: Re: Poodle crosses - when can you tell if they are (not) shedders
Post by: Ghdp on July 16, 2015, 07:18:42 pm
I have a poodle cross - just not entirely sure what else is in the mix. She sheds endlessly. I think it is just pot luck. I just love the dog I have and the hair balls I just live with.