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Title: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on June 23, 2015, 11:15:35 pm: Just to allow folks to get this one in their diary
The Lanark Sale is to be held on Saturday 29th August. Lawrie & Symington are promoting it as The Scottish National Show & Sale of Pedigree Hebridean Sheep. The Show will commence @ 9 am to be followed by the Sale @ 11 am. We will have access to the mart on the Friday pm.
Vicky is to liaise with the mart over the of the catalogue. Our contact & the young man with responsibility for promoting the sale is Andrew Goldie.

This year, the Shetlands are holding their UK National Sale at Lanark and are holding their show on Friday evening. There will be 2 rings on the go on Saturday which will speed up the proceedings.

There is to be no sale at Stirling anymore so this is where to get your registered Hebrideans at a scottish venue - Its obviously not that far over the border and doesn't clash with carlisle either as per previous years. There should be a lot of good Stock available for those wishing to buy and a large audience for those wishing to sell - If your new / inexperienced there should be members about who can give you advice regarding what sheep you may wish to buy - hope to see you all there
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Fleecewife on June 23, 2015, 11:59:29 pm: Thank you Big Light - I meant to post the info a couple of days back, sorry.

I think there are plus and minus points about the move. A big plus is that we will be using a large, modern facility, with plenty of room (and a good canteen, and excellent bacon butties :hungry: )
Joining up with the Shetland National sale, as well as rare breeds, makes sense. The Shetland Sheep Soc always has a big craft section, which might stir the interest of Heb and other rare breeds breeders too :spin: :knit: Another plus point is that Lanark mart is delighted to have us there, and keen for the sale to be a success, whereas Cally Marts were very poorly organised and totally uninterested in our presence.

A minus point is that we are moving ever further from the Islands, so it is unlikely that islanders will get to the sales, either to purchase or sell their stock. The same applies to those who live in the Far North.
Another minus point is that Scottish and N English lambs will be only 4 months old at the time of sale (the previous Stirling Cally marts and Oban sales were in September, a month later.

Overall though I think the move is positive - it's also just up the road for me, so I can't complain ;D
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on June 24, 2015, 05:31:59 am: I know what you mean FW with the positives and negatives however this year it really is either have it at Lanark or not at all.
The folk coming down from the north having to go further isn't great and the other locations in stirling were also looked at for that reason but no availability. I guess it will be a suck it and see but overall i think the positives will out weigh the negatives(even if more travelling personally) and that Lanark will prove to be the best choice - as for lambs i guess they will still be the same age as each other, be interesting to see if theres any alteration with averages but i hope the Heb sale might boost the shetland sale with different folk and vice versa
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: bloomer on June 24, 2015, 07:57:04 am: >:( that's me missing this year's shetland sale

Just been confirmed for a contract on the south coast of englandshire that weekend that I can't afford to turn down...

Probably a good thing, stops me buying more sheep...
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on June 24, 2015, 10:52:15 am: Send the children and tell them to wave at the man in the box ; 0)
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: SallyintNorth on June 24, 2015, 04:36:45 pm: Quote from: bloomer on June 24, 2015, 07:57:04 am
>:( that's me missing this year's shetland sale

Just been confirmed for a contract on the south coast of englandshire that weekend that I can't afford to turn down...

Probably a good thing, stops me buying more sheep...

You can always pop in for a look-see at Carlisle the following month... ;) :innocent:
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: bigchicken on June 24, 2015, 05:32:17 pm: Looking forward to this sale and inclusion of the hebs will make this a better sale in my humble opinion. Should be a great atmosphere with the two society's friendly folk. At least there stock for sale will mostly be of a good standard and regestered.
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: verdifish on June 24, 2015, 05:40:26 pm: I'm so hacked of we didn't get the starter farm because we are now trying to sell rather than going to this sale and carrying out some sheep retail therapy !
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on June 24, 2015, 06:31:26 pm: Shame Verdi - i take it there's no way you can get a few extra acres near to you for rent / barter. Both Your skill set for some grazing amongst horses / spare land and build up your stock / area so that if you go for it again then they can't put the increase in size or numbers as a negative against you?. We have managed to get a few bit of grazing in exchange for a lamb for instance.
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: verdifish on June 24, 2015, 08:29:52 pm: I'll be honest we are looking at other options at the mo so hopefully next year at the latest ! ????
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on June 27, 2015, 03:47:12 pm: Aye theres always that balance with overwintering and too much summrr grass - nice to see your back on the :horse:
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Fleecewife on August 10, 2015, 11:59:55 am: Bump :sheep:
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Rosemary on August 25, 2015, 03:19:13 pm: Bump
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on August 27, 2015, 07:26:47 pm: Well worth a visit especially if your new to sheep and looking for a breed - even if you are not ready to buy you can see what you like and speak to breeders and make contact / get ideas for the future

Here's the link for the hebridean catalogue - theres some fantastic sheep, including some of this years show champions the |Hebrideans are scheduled for about 12 noon ish in ring 2
http://c1940652.r52.cf0.rackcdn.com/55db0b84ff2a7c077700025b/Hebridean-Sheep-Society-Catalogue-29th-Aug-2015.pdf (http://c1940652.r52.cf0.rackcdn.com/55db0b84ff2a7c077700025b/Hebridean-Sheep-Society-Catalogue-29th-Aug-2015.pdf)

general rare breed catalogue

http://c1940652.r52.cf0.rackcdn.com/55db0f3bff2a7c077700026b/Rare-Breed-catalogue-29th-Aug.pdf (http://c1940652.r52.cf0.rackcdn.com/55db0f3bff2a7c077700026b/Rare-Breed-catalogue-29th-Aug.pdf)

and Shetland catalogue
http://c1940652.r52.cf0.rackcdn.com/55dac9efff2a7c07770001fd/Shetland-Sheep-catalogue-29th-august-2015-%282%29.pdf (http://c1940652.r52.cf0.rackcdn.com/55dac9efff2a7c07770001fd/Shetland-Sheep-catalogue-29th-august-2015-%282%29.pdf)

and heres a summary of what's there:

SALE OF RARE AND MINORITY BREEDS OF CATTLE, SHEEP, GOATS, PIGS, POULTRY incorporating National Show and Sale of Shetland Sheep (Show Friday 28^th at 10am) also Scottish National Show and Sale of Hebridean Sheep ( Show commences Saturday 9am)
In Ring 1 at 9.30am- 314 Shetland Sheep, 43 Zwartble Sheep,

In Ring 2 at 10am -40 Jacob,37 Ryeland,22 Boreray,10 Icelandic,24 North Ronaldsay,121 Hebridean,35 Various Other Breeds, 51 Cross Bred Sheep

In General Hall at 10am- 196 Cages Poultry followed by 2 Pigs,2 Highland Cows,2 Llamas,8 Horses followed by in Ring 3 75 Goats
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 27, 2015, 10:53:59 pm: Intrigued by 'Bluefaced Welsh Mountain Tup lambs' ???
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on August 28, 2015, 07:09:13 am: Its either a clever new cross (BFL x BWM) :idea: or a typo me thinks :thinking:
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 28, 2015, 12:03:44 pm: Quote from: SallyintNorth on August 27, 2015, 10:53:59 pm
Intrigued by 'Bluefaced Welsh Mountain Tup lambs' ???

Quote from: Big Light on August 28, 2015, 07:09:13 am
Its either a clever new cross (BFL x BWM) :idea: or a typo me thinks :thinking:

If it's a Mule (BFL x any of the Welsh Mountain types) - why on earth would anyone be selling tup lambs? ???
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on August 28, 2015, 12:16:40 pm: I was erring on the 2nd one myself :excited:
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Fleecewife on August 28, 2015, 01:13:12 pm: Are you coming up Sally?
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 28, 2015, 01:28:54 pm: Quote from: Fleecewife on August 28, 2015, 01:13:12 pm
Are you coming up Sally?
Spirit willing, flesh probably too weak. Lots of work with Katy and the new calves at the moment - lovely but tiring!
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: lintmill on August 28, 2015, 02:35:53 pm: I saw the owner of this sheep last night and it's a typo.....he is not impressed!!
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 28, 2015, 04:51:28 pm: Quote from: lintmill on August 28, 2015, 02:35:53 pm
I saw the owner of this sheep last night and it's a typo.....he is not impressed!!

So what it is supposed to be ? Badgerfaced?
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: lintmill on August 28, 2015, 05:04:32 pm: yes.
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on August 30, 2015, 09:13:21 am: Well Hebridean sale went really well with lots of buyers and sellers enjoying their day - hope the other breeds did as well - Really strong prices especially in the gimmers classes with the avg being about £108 - top price of the day was £500 for the show champion a cracking 4 horn tup and £210 ( x 3) for gimmers on the female side - nice to see some friendly faces too!
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Fleecewife on August 30, 2015, 12:55:44 pm: I missed the ewe lamb bit Big Light. What were the prices like there please?

I bought a tup I hadn't intended to ::) but he is nice and perfect for us (not the £500 one - not right for our Ancient Types - and I don't have 500 quid to spend :o)
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on August 30, 2015, 01:17:56 pm: Ewe lambs averaged just over £63 so pretty much all going to the breeders at that price, Top of £100 several times. There was some really nice ewe lambs but as you know, a ewe lambs a gamble.

I didn't have £500 for a tup either but have made a little arrangement to send a few ewes down to him this year to widen my 4 horn genetic pool. Although probably more in your scene i privately bought a wee 4 horn tup lamb which was brought down from aberdeenshire its 4 horn lines come through a boreland ewe whos a very ugly top knot with Windyhall Raspite and some etal, Harewood, wainstone bemborough and eryri 4 horns in the lines going back. His eye are good and hopefully he will grow nicely
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on August 30, 2015, 01:22:01 pm: FW what tup did you buy ?
- Just to give you a laugh i asked the owner to leave the tup lamb whole when i saw the first picture - hopefully it works out !
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Fleecewife on August 30, 2015, 11:22:21 pm: Tup lambs are even more of a gamble. Ewe lambs can be so pretty then grow up into ugly sheep. I see what you mean about the top knot ewe - not the worlds most beautiful specimen, but she looks mighty hurt that you said so ;D The tup lamb's genes are interesting. We bought ours for his genes too, various interesting unrelated lines in there. We bought the 4 yr old. Dreading how he'll fit in with the other tups when his 4 weeks quarantine are up. I'm sure we'll think of something. We tend to use new tups over only one or two ewes for the first year, after a mistake when we used a beautiful new lad on nearly all the ewes and got a rubbish crop for that year.

Jack, as an aside, did you study zoology at Edin?
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on August 31, 2015, 06:03:53 am: Long time ago :0)
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Fleecewife on August 31, 2015, 11:40:33 am: Quote from: Big Light on August 31, 2015, 06:03:53 am
Long time ago :0)

:idea: :D I'll tell you why I ask at the Smallholder show, if you haven't worked it out by then. Mustn't Hi Jack the thread :innocent:
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Big Light on August 31, 2015, 03:22:24 pm: The days when your farming consisted of guppies in buckstone lol
Title: Re: Hebridean Sheep Society Sale 29th August at Lanark along with Shetland UK sale
Post by: Fleecewife on August 31, 2015, 09:36:43 pm: Had to start somewhere........ :farmer: