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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: baffledog1 on May 29, 2015, 03:09:21 pm

Title: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: baffledog1 on May 29, 2015, 03:09:21 pm
 4 of my ewe hoggs lambed this March. Not planned but a neighbour's tup escaped and a well meaning motorist opened my field gate and he tupped 4 of them(the tup not the motorist). Gave them extra rations and they all lambed really easily, 2 sets of twins and 2 singles. I gave support with extra bottles to the two with twins. Have had them sheared and all looking really well on good grass, too much grass to be honest.

Question is that I have been told it is better for the ewes to wean at between 12-14 weeks to allow the ewes to recover and continue growing. Will be doing this towards end of June.

On weaning due to the excess grass should I put the ewes into a shed/yard with limited food to dry them off and help prevent mastitis. I realise its a month away but at the moment they have a lot of milk.  Any thoughts welcomed.

Title: Re: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: Kimbo on May 29, 2015, 03:11:29 pm
  a neighbour's tup escaped and a well meaning motorist opened my field gate and he tupped 4 of them(the tup not the motorist).


 :roflanim:  :roflanim:
I really needed that chuckle! So thanks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: Anke on May 29, 2015, 03:38:45 pm
If you want to put your hoggs back to the tup in the autumn, yes I would put them into a yard with only some hay, or maybe even straw (and water of course), until the udders are soft and shrinking, and afterwards  onto not so good grass (to prevent CCN).

Depending on how they look at the end of summer you may want to flush on good grass for a few weeks before tupping. I have found that with the Shetlands that is not necessary, but they are not lambed as hoggs.
Title: Re: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: Womble on May 29, 2015, 04:43:42 pm
What's CCN?  The closest Google got me was the Council for Churches in Namibia  ???
Title: Re: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: Me on May 29, 2015, 04:46:18 pm
What's CCN?  The closest Google got me was the Council for Churches in Namibia  ???

Yes thats it. And you don't want that in your sheep now do you?

TBH I think 12-14 weeks is too late and could likely reduce mature ewe size. 10-12 max would be my preference and then onto straw and water
Title: Re: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: Sbom on May 29, 2015, 05:30:50 pm
What's CCN?  The closest Google got me was the Council for Churches in Namibia  ???

Loving this thread! :-)
Title: Re: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: Anke on May 29, 2015, 05:51:14 pm
CCN (in sheep country) - Cerebro Cortical Necrosis (the Americans call is Polioencephalitis or something like that). It is a thiamine(vit B)  deficiency often brought on by a sudden change to (usually better) pasture/feed. I have had it in ewes just  after weaning when I put them on good pasture for flushing... and it is usually fatal. I think growing lambs can get it too, but never seen it in lambs.
Title: Re: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: Backinwellies on May 29, 2015, 07:05:47 pm
CCN (in sheep country) - Cerebro Cortical Necrosis (the Americans call is Polioencephalitis or something like that). It is a thiamine(vit B)  deficiency often brought on by a sudden change to (usually better) pasture/feed. I have had it in ewes just  after weaning when I put them on good pasture for flushing... and it is usually fatal. I think growing lambs can get it too, but never seen it in lambs.
Well that's a new one on me!
Title: Re: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 29, 2015, 07:30:59 pm
Reading the NADIS information on CCN (http://www.nadis.org.uk/bulletins/nervous-disease-in-sheep.aspx) (scroll down the page to find it, the first bit is all about listeriosis), it is predominantly a disease of weaned lambs, 4-8 months old, and responds well to prompt treatment.
Title: Re: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: Kimbo on May 29, 2015, 07:41:18 pm
OMG! Not another thing sheep will die of  :raining:
I can see this 1st year in sheep being VERY stressful  ::)
Title: Re: Ewes immediately after weaning
Post by: ewesaidit on May 29, 2015, 08:43:50 pm
how long do people leave ewes in the 'drying off pen' for usually?     Mine have been in for three nights so far and I'm feeling sorry for them lol !