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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: bridget on April 21, 2015, 11:01:17 am

Title: Moving pigs
Post by: bridget on April 21, 2015, 11:01:17 am
Is there a limit to the number of miles you can moves pigs yourself  without having to use a contractor.  I've recently been told that its 30 miles but I've checked through the Defra information on pig movements and can't see any restrictions and have brought in wearers from further than 30 miles in the last 2 years.   Perhaps they are winding me up!  However thought I'd check here as well. 
Title: Re: Moving pigs
Post by: harmony on April 21, 2015, 01:01:09 pm
https://www.gov.uk/farm-animal-welfare-during-transportation (https://www.gov.uk/farm-animal-welfare-during-transportation)


This tells you about journey times. I don't know anyone who has been asked for a copy of their authorisation and I know people who don't have any. Smallholders argue they are not an economic activity.

Title: Re: Moving pigs
Post by: bridget on April 21, 2015, 10:34:29 pm
Many thanks Harmony
Title: Re: Moving pigs
Post by: oaklandspigs on April 22, 2015, 09:21:43 am
I don't know anyone who has been asked for a copy of their authorisation

I have - but only once and then on arrival at an agricultural show.  You may also be asked at markets where Trading standards tend to pop up form time to time.  Small risk at abattoir, but don't know anyone who has.  So very unlikely, but possible !

I know people who don't have any.

I took the test when it first came out - 27 multiple choice questions you need to get 20, but they are stupidly simple - the average 8 year old from an inner city would pass, no animal knowledge required.  Sample question - which is more  important - that the trailer signage for your business is clean or that there are no sharp edges inside the trailer.


 Smallholders argue they are not an economic activity.

Defra say they are if income exceeds expenditure - see

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/welfare-of-animals-during-transport (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/welfare-of-animals-during-transport)

for a detailed description.

BUT one key exemption, quote from the above

In May 2007, we made a decision to exclude from the scope of the Regulation journeys in which an individual animal is transported with its owner/ keeper from the rules set out in the Regulation.  This single animal exemption is carried over from the previous legislation and is not reflected in the current EU legislation.  However, the European Commission is aware that we have  asked local authorities and Animal Health to retain this exemption in practice. 
Historically, the exemption has also been taken as applying to journeys where two animals are accompanied by two people, up to a limit of four animals/four people.  This was to accommodate those who are transporting carriage horses for driving competitions or shows.  We have asked local authorities and Animal Health to continue to apply the exemption in this way.


So 4 animals/4 people is fine !

Having said all that if you are just moving a few pigs around - then unless you break down, and the authorities find 27 pigs crammed in the boot - the chances of anyone who a) knows the law, and b) can be bothered to do you is really really small.  But the risk is there !

As Harmony rightly says, if you're just doing a few for yourself, and not selling to family and friends then you could claim a loss making hobby.