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Growing => Gardens => Topic started by: wayfarer on April 16, 2015, 10:23:47 am

Title: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: wayfarer on April 16, 2015, 10:23:47 am
What is the best way of keeping a gravel drive clear of weeds?  In the past I have used a weedkiller that prevents regrowth for 6 months which is ideal but I could only buy it in small sachets and had a relatively large area to do.
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: doganjo on April 16, 2015, 03:50:08 pm
I want to know too, plus I have dogs running around so need something safe for them
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: nutterly_uts on April 16, 2015, 03:57:59 pm
Rock salt is supposed to be good but not very pet friendly as it can cause problems, vinegar is also supposed to be good and is usually cheap .. I think you put it on neat :) 
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: SallyintNorth on April 16, 2015, 05:32:54 pm
Can't beat hoeing on a hot day ;)
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Ghdp on April 16, 2015, 08:01:26 pm
Do those gas burners work?
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Rosemary on April 16, 2015, 08:03:46 pm
I need new glasses. I thought the titlre was Weedkilling in grave!
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: doganjo on April 16, 2015, 10:42:44 pm
Do those gas burners work?
Nope - just do a weed at a time - I have a green carpet!  It would take me months of 24/7 work!
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: SallyintNorth on April 16, 2015, 11:10:02 pm
Do those gas burners work?

No
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Ghdp on April 16, 2015, 11:47:14 pm
Ok. Got that. Thanks.   :D
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: cloddopper on April 19, 2015, 12:14:19 am
Sulphamate off eBay .
it is a  compost activator , it just happens if you water it on green matter it kills it *& turns it into compost material.  So make sure that the stuff you want " composting " is not in an area of crop and that it will not leach into veg beds etc or streams
 I "composted in situation ", about 10 sq mtr of horsetail during a dry period , after five weeks it was dead , that's over 14 months ago with no regrowth.

 Another area I " composted " at the same time now has broad beans growing in it .
 Apparently after a four or  months of being sprayed on it it turns into plant friendly nitrogen .
 It is not licenced as a weed brush or stump killer, its only available as  " compost activator " .

 Happy composting
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: doganjo on April 19, 2015, 11:51:41 am
Just bought some, haven't been able to find a dog friendly weed killer before, Thank you! :bouquet:
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Bionic on April 19, 2015, 01:55:56 pm
Is it also chicken friendly?
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: doganjo on April 19, 2015, 03:18:27 pm
Is it also chicken friendly?
I hope so!  They're my weed killers too!   :innocent: But it takes about 5 weeks to kill weeds off, and my hens won't be out much before that - fence being built to keep dogs away from them

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Ammonium sulphamate is a simple chemical which breaks down into a soil fertiliser after eight to twelve weeks.

Please use carefully: Harmful to plants until it breaks down.

Children and pets do not need to be restrained from the treated area.
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Bionic on April 19, 2015, 04:15:00 pm
Thanks Annie. Me thinks I am gonna buy some  ;D
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Bionic on April 19, 2015, 06:02:21 pm
Cloddoper, I have just looked it up but don't know how much to buy. Do you dilute it and if so whats the ratio?
thanks
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: doganjo on April 19, 2015, 06:06:15 pm
Cloddoper, I have just looked it up but don't know how much to buy. Do you dilute it and if so whats the ratio?
thanks
I just bought the smallest pack - 800 mgs for £14 to try it out.  Thought it might say the dilution on the pack?  :fc:
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Bionic on April 23, 2015, 02:17:48 pm
Mine has just arrived but nothing to say how to apply it. I have been searching on line and the nearest I can get is 200g to 1 litre of water. Does that sound about right?
Also need to know if the weather needs to be dry when it's applied or any other info that might help.
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: doganjo on April 24, 2015, 10:29:35 pm
Mine had a leaflet in with it.  I got just over 900mgs and that does about 2 bucketfuls as far as I can gather. So I'll need a helluva lot more for my back yard! And at $£14 a time I think I might just do the driveway, get the fence up, and let the hens do the rest. :innocent:
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Bionic on April 25, 2015, 08:04:09 am
Annie, I paid £6.95 for a kilo which would work out much better than yours.
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: doganjo on April 25, 2015, 08:09:47 pm
Where from? 

Ebay - Ammonium Sulphamate - only three listed and smallest was 908 gms at £14.

I did check amazon too, but couldn't find it there.  I've now found the same size pack for £10

This is interesting - explaining about it being banned as a weedkiller - http://allotment-garden.org/garden-diary/1989/ammonium-sulphamate-weed-killer-banned/ (http://allotment-garden.org/garden-diary/1989/ammonium-sulphamate-weed-killer-banned/)
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Bionic on April 26, 2015, 02:56:40 am
Annie, You are going to laugh at this. I have bought the wrong thing.
Mine is ammonium sulphate. Good job I haven't put the stuff down as it seems to make things grow.  I could have ended up cultivating my weeds instead of killing them  ;D
Ah well, back to the drawing board
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Steph Hen on April 26, 2015, 08:35:10 am
Turns out my 10 months old loves crawling around on granny's gravel pulling out  all the  little weeds ...

 :idea:

For hire?
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Bionic on April 26, 2015, 10:38:44 am
Turns out my 10 months old loves crawling around on granny's gravel pulling out  all the  little weeds ...

 :idea:

For hire?
Sounds like a plan  ;D
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: doganjo on April 26, 2015, 11:21:16 am
Annie, You are going to laugh at this. I have bought the wrong thing.
Mine is ammonium sulphate. Good job I haven't put the stuff down as it seems to make things grow.  I could have ended up cultivating my weeds instead of killing them  ;D
Ah well, back to the drawing board
Understandable error   :eyelashes: - the name isn't much different, but I guess many chemicals are like that.
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: HesterF on April 28, 2015, 11:35:06 pm
Husband has just got his back-pack spraying license which entitles us to buy systemics in bigger quantities (mostly because we have to keep weeds off 2000 baby vines). However, I can no longer control him - keep seeing new patches that are turning yellow including the edges of the lawn where he's tried to clear the brick edges the lazy way. The paths are looking fab though - I just have to make sure he doesn't go too far 'off piste'.
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Bionic on April 29, 2015, 07:28:58 am
Hester do you know what he is actually using?
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: HesterF on April 29, 2015, 09:15:46 am
At this time of year just the standard systemics - I think it's Round-Up but it may be that's just what he calls it (although he has asked me to order some more). I'm not a big fan of using it in general but no problem on paths and gravel and we just can't keep on top of the weeds around the vines by hand. He'll switch later to contact weedkillers for the vineyard once the vines are in-leaf and I think those are the ones that are now harder to get at a garden centre due to concerns about the environmental impact. Hopefully we won't need as much of those anyway because all the rows are looking pretty weed free at the moment but he can continue to use systemics on the paths.
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: dst015 on June 02, 2015, 04:36:59 pm
Where from? 

Ebay - Ammonium Sulphamate - only three listed and smallest was 908 gms at £14.

I did check amazon too, but couldn't find it there.  I've now found the same size pack for £10

This is interesting - explaining about it being banned as a weedkiller - http://allotment-garden.org/garden-diary/1989/ammonium-sulphamate-weed-killer-banned/ (http://allotment-garden.org/garden-diary/1989/ammonium-sulphamate-weed-killer-banned/)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mistral-Ammonium-Sulphamate-1Kg/dp/B004MMOEH2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mistral-Ammonium-Sulphamate-1Kg/dp/B004MMOEH2)

its £10.99 a kilo here if your still looking
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Daisys Mum on June 02, 2015, 09:08:17 pm
OH has just bought one of these weed burners that runs on paraffin but as he forgot to buy a pump to get the paraffin out of the barrell still don't know if it will work! I can't use weed killer anywhere as my goats go wherever they please and would be most upset if they were stopped.
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: cloddopper on June 06, 2015, 09:54:22 am
Sorry for not picking the thread back up I've been in hospitals having major spinal surgery and have had a few problems with the wound becoming seriously infected.. I'm back on my feet and have started Physio in the hydro pool .

 I do have a historic usage and dose sheet for your personal research quest that I'm not allowed to publish on here.
 Drop me a PM telling me sulphamate & I'll sort you something out .

 The name is in several forms ie Ammonium  Sulphamate or Sulphamet 
 
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: Jukes Mum on June 10, 2015, 01:11:57 pm
Sorry to hear about your back Cloddopper  :hug:
Title: Re: Weedkilling in gravel
Post by: James1 on July 31, 2015, 06:18:25 pm
How about a gravel rake that you pull behind a ride on mower or similar . Rake the gravel regularly through the spring and summer to kill the weeds.