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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: hafod on February 18, 2015, 08:01:14 pm
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On Monday I was offered a new contract which means I will be working at home 99% of the the time. OH and I had been planning a trip to the local dog rescue to see if they would have anything suitable for us. On Tuesday a friend who I haven't seen for a while posted on facebook that she was looking to rehome her 2 dogs due to her ill health. I've had a chat with her and explained our situation and that we need a dog that's good with sheep and chickens and she thinks that one of hers would be ideal. So we are going to meet "Cody" on Friday.
What sort of questions should I ask about him when we meet him?
I know he's healthy and microchipped and all his vaccines are up to date.
Obviously I need to ask what food he currently has
I guess I need to know about his "normal" routine, how long he is used to being left on his own for etc
We will be taking him out for a walk so we will get an idea of how he is on the lead and meeting other dogs.
What else should I ask/do?
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Ask for a no obligations trial period
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You should ask what types of animals and people has he been exposed to, what socialization have they done, how does he travel in a car and where does he currently sleep (ie bedroom, sofa, crate trained).
Initially when you get a rescue it is a mix of risk management and giving plenty of time for socialization and settling in.
I think it is great you are getting a rescue, the more you can find out, the easier the settling in period will be. I have fostered and rescued several dogs and having a good history check is really helpful.
Good luck. :thumbsup:
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If her house & car aren't chewed to pieces & you like him & he likes you all will be fine! Why not take both?
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Yes they'll probably settle better together .
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I was going to say, if he's used to being one of two he may find it very hard to settle as an only dog. Often two are less work than one as they keep each other company, play with each other on walks, etc... :innocent:
I'd ask to have her 'walk you through' the dogs' days and nights - show you where they sleep, what they do between walks and feeds, etc, so you can gauge whether what this dog is used to tallies with how you envisage life with (a) dog(s).
For instance, if they sleep on her bed but you want a dog to sleep in the kitchen, with an adult dog already stressed by moving house, owner and companionship, this could be a hard one to manage.
Look for scratched doors, evidence of garden escapes, etc, and get her to talk about any 'management issues' as well as the dogs' good points!
And take it/them for a walk - some dogs pull constantly on a lead, some won't come when called, etc.
But broadly,
If her house & car aren't chewed to pieces & you like him & he likes you all will be fine! Why not take both?
this! ;D
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So we went to see both dogs tonight. We decided that they get on so well together it would be a shame to split them up so......they are both coming for a trial next week. very excited :excited: . Thank you for all your advice. We left a blanket with them so they can get their scent on it. We will pick it up at the weekend and bring it home so the cats can have a sniff and maybe it won't be so stressfull for them. (the dogs are very used to cats so hopefully that will help).
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Ooh i'm excited for you!! Hope it goes well.
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Thats great. It must be a big relief to your friend too knowing they are going together to someone she knows.
One tip for when you get them is NOT to have a strict routine.. contrary to most advice. Of course they need fed, walked etc but i'd vary the times a bit so eg if you decide to leave their long walk till later as you're busy or its pouring the dogs arent pacing about unsettled until to go.
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Sounds like a great start! Hope it goes well once they come home to you. How exciting! :excited:
So much better for them if they can stay together :thumbsup: I'm sure it will help them settle into their new environment making it less stressful for you too.
I'd love to get a second dog now that we have the space but finding it very difficult to find a dog that will get along with the dog we already have. In hindsight if I was starting anew with dogs I would try to get an already bonded pair.
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I've been re-homing dogs for a fair few years and have found that dogs that are collected by the new owner will settle much better than those that have been delivered and then left.
Good luck with your new friends and may you have many happy years together :)
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Hope the trial goes well!
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Thank you!! I've attached a pic.
We picked up the dog smelling blanket today and both cats have had a sniff and my male cat is currently snuggled up in it! I'm hoping this is a good sign but obviously its going to be more stressfull when the dogs arrive. The dogs won't be able to go up stairs but the cats will so I'm hoping this will be a safe haven for the cats. We also have a pheremone plug-in which we have found to help the cats in stressful situations before. The dogs are crate trained and used to sleeping in a crate at night so we will continue to do this too. What else can we do to help it go smoothly?
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I don't give a new dog too much freedom to start with, just a safe space away from the goings on of the house (that will be easy if they have a crate/s).
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I've been re-homing dogs for a fair few years and have found that dogs that are collected by the new owner will settle much better than those that have been delivered and then left.
Good luck with your new friends and may you have many happy years together :)
Same here when it comes to rescue dogs. Best if you collect them. Much less upset.
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They look lovely :)
The only thing I'd say now is don't worry too much - you've done a lot of thinking and planning, so now just collect them and give them affection and space and I bet they'll be fine. If you think of it at first like looking after a friends' dogs while the owners are on holiday... Generally, with a few of their own things to help them settle, dogs have a lovely time while their owners are away; I've even had one of mine look as though he was planning on staying with his minders when I went to pick him up! (He sat by them on the doorstep as I left, looking as though he was saying, "Well, lovely to see you, do come again!" ::))
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Big one for me is time! They will need time to settle in, however be sure what the rules are in the beginning. The first month for any new dogs is learning what the boundaries are and whilst it may be cute having a shy dog creep on the sofa next to you in the beginning, a few weeks later they will not be so shy so make sure you are consistent, especially when they start to push the boundaries (which they will do). ;D
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I agree with Caroline: give them time. Its going to be an upheaval for them even though they are staying together. They have to learn to read your body language and your do's and dont's. They will make mistakes and so will you so don't be too hard on any of you.
I hope it works out well. You are doing a worthwhile thing :)
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Thanks again for the advice, please keep it coming!
I picked them up this lunchtime. We went for a long walk and I had them out on the yard with me while I was mucking out (on long leads!). We also walked them up to the sheep paddock through the ponies field. They pulled more and were much less responsive than when we walked them from their own home but I guess everything is so new and different its just going to take time (as a few of you have said!). There are dog training classes locally specifically for older dogs that have changed owners so I think we will enrol in a couple of weeks just to help reinforce the basic commands.
The cats are not impressed and are hiding under the spare bed! We are giving them lots of fuss and treats. I'm sure they will adapt but at the moment I feel very mean!
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Exciting times! :thumbsup:
Time and patience are the two words you have to remember, over and over again. You can't expect anybody to get used to the new situation overnight - cats or dogs (or yourself, for that matter). The dogs will be naturally overexcited by their new environment.
In the past I brought a dog into a house full of cats too, and none of the cats were impressed (and neither was the dog to have his movements confined to one room at a time). I really struggled with the feeling of having betrayed the cats at the time, and worrying about having destroyed peace in my household. yes, I was feeing very maean too!
I put in a doggy door and only increased access to the house for the dog very gradually. I did lots of treat feeding on either side of the dog gate - cats got treats for coming close in presence of dog, dog got treats for staying put (sit or down) in the presence of cats, focussing on me not them. Stream of treats would stop for both sides if cats moved away from dog. The dog would only venture outside 'his' room in the house under supervision., treating for focussing on me and not the cats.
It took a month or so for the 3 younger cats to realise that the dog could be annoying but not dangerous, a few months later they were OK together (they now sleep together sometimes). My older cat still can't stand the dog (4 years later) - it took her six months to even consider staying in the same room as the dog for any longer than 2 minutes. But she has now learned to not be terrified of him despite her dislike - they just avoid each other, so that's OK too.
If you are prepared to move slowly, not rushing anybody, and manage all dog/cat meetings closely until everyone is ready, I'm sure you'll get there. Hang on in there! :fc:
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Unfortunately they have gone back to their owner she said she couldn't bare not to have them around. What could we say?! We enjoyed having them and it was a good taster. I think next time (will wait until after lambing now) we will go to a local rescue centre,we have one with a good reputation for matching dogs with new owners.
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Oh, that's horrid for you. :hug:
I'm sure you'll get matched up with a lovely dog by your local rescue and have a happier story to tell us soon!
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I really feel for you. Luckily you hadn't had them for too long.
Some years ago I got a dog from a rescue centre. within a couple of days it became ill and it turned out to have distemper. I nursed the dog day and night and she made a full recovery. Then the original owners turned up and wanted her back. I was gutted as we had bonded so well but what could I do?
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:hug: Sally.
I think I am right in saying that these days, the original owners would not have been able to recover the dog, as they had not reclaimed her within the 7 days. Once microchipping is mandatory, and as long as all dog wardens and rescues read them, an owner who reports a missing dog promptly should get reunited if it's found - wherever it is found, which will save a lot of heartbreak in all directions.
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Im sorry to hear that news Hafod but just go back to Plan A and have a trip to the rescue. There are lots of nice dogs looking for homes so Im sure you will meet a nice one
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I am so sorry to hear this, especially as you had made so much effort for them as well. However at least another doggy out there will get a lovely new home, there are far too many stuck in rescues as people keep breeding when there are already not enough homes available... sorry rant over. I hope you find the right match for you.
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Sorry it's been such a short stay... as you say it's all part of the process.
Hope you get lucky with your second attempt. As Caroline says - there are lots of lovely rescue dogs out there. :dog: