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Smallholding => Equipment => Topic started by: ladyK on November 12, 2014, 09:43:25 am
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Just acquired a Land Rover pick up truck - just the thing I was looking for, good condition for the age (88 reg) and (I think) at a reasonable price. :excited:
Catch iswe have to pick it up 180 miles away this weekend. Second catch is neither me nor OH know anything about Landys nor have ever driven one... ::)
I'd be really grateful for any tips on operation, maintenance or anything that's good to know really from you wonderful experienced TAS people. All advice very welcome (though too late now for any advice against).
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(If you are wondering why we bought one when we are so clueless, it's simply a matter of wanting a proper farm vehicle (also doubling up as a trailer) that would fit our cramped yard and steep drive, and a compact Landy pickup just seemed to fit that, both size and shape-wise.)
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I test drove our first Landrover series 3 down the Dalkeith road in Edinburgh in the rush hour. I had never driven one before. Steering those things is a learned art, and I hadn't learnt it at that point :o It was a very hairy progress, dodging double decker buses, school kids, parked cars and every other potential disaster in a city, with steering which was very much a case of point and hope. I survived it and fell in love with GUS in the process (reg number is GUS 81T but we've shortened gusset to Gus :roflanim:) so presented it to Mr F as a done deal. We now have three (another series 3 and an 80" series 1 :love:) Is yours a Defender? I'm sure they'll have better steering. You'll have learnt the tricks in 180 miles anyway.
Watch your chassis and bulkhead - very susceptible to corrosion, but every spare you can imagine is available out there.
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Welcome to the Landy club (you poor sod! ;D ).
Driving them is very different from driving a car. Expect lots of steering wheel movement for not much actual steering, and spongy brakes as standard. Also beware of your blind spot when changing lane. My Landy is a panel van, which makes this particularly critical, since glancing back over your shoulder only reveals plywood! Likewise, when turning right, you'll lose visibility to the left very quickly, so if you're on your own, you need to be aware of your road angle, or you'll find you can't see traffic coming from the left.
There are lots of guides online on what to look for in a used Landy, but the main things are the condition of the chassis, bulkhead, gearbox and engine. I know you said you've already agreed to buy, but there are some real shockers out there, so do take your time to check it over, and if in doubt, don't be afraid to haggle to cover the cost of repairs, or just walk away if it's not right.
The chassis is basically a ladder frame, with various bits sticking out off it that things like the suspension bolt onto. However, these bits tend to collect crud and go rusty, and a new chassis is an expensive affair. Check also the bit of the chassis at the back (rear crossmember). This collects mud from the back wheels, and can suffer badly with rust, although you can get a weld-on replacement for it fairly cheaply.
As Fleecewife says, the bulkhead is also prone to corrosion, and expensive to fix. Almost all landies leak water in, and this can go down the A-posts (front outside edges of the windscreen), and cause corrosion from the inside out. If this affects the security of the door hinges or where the pedals attach, that's an expensive MOT fail.
It's worth trying the transfer gearbox in all positions (both diff locked and not), and make sure everything works smoothly. Lots of landies never get used in anything other than 'road' mode, so the transfer box can seize up. Mine needed a new linkage fitted which cost me all of £10...... plus two days labour to get in at it (eek!).
Also drive round in circles at full lock and check for knocking in the front 'cv' joints (the ball joints that let you drive and steer at the same time). Also check for scoring / pitting on the balls.
Apart from that, it's just a car. Except it isn't just a car. It's more a tractor you can take to work, and some of your friends will think it's the coolest thing in the world, whilst others will refuse a lift to the pub at lunchtime, even though it's raining ;D .
Hope that helps!
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Mainly what womble said, make sure you can get gears OK as the gearbox gets a lot of hammer. Check door bottoms for bad corrosion as they are pretty expensive. Clunks in the drive train, erm, everything really! Do you know anyone with a similar one you can drive first?
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the gearbox.
Perhaps this schematic will help?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UIrpib66ZNY/UeRdve06ydI/AAAAAAAAAvE/fJz4eIwInSk/s1600/Normal-Gear-Box-vs-Fast-Furious-Gear-Box.jpg)
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Thank you all, very enlightening! :thumbsup:
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Love the schematic womble - that is so true :roflanim:
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Keep a close eye on your oil levels until you get used to it and know how much it's losing. I would make it a priority to change all the oils, engine, gearbox, transfer box and both axles as soon as you can so you at least know there's some in there! As above rust will be your biggest enemy in the long term so nip it in the bud if you can. An awful lot will depend on how the previous owners have looked after it and there's always an element of pot luck when you buy one. The great thing is everything's fixable and all the help you could ever need is on the interweb. Having said that if you're driving it a long way home it'll be a good idea to make sure you've got breakdown cover.
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180 miles in a landrover .? My tip would be go and collect it with a trailer.
And believe it or not I love em and have owned loads.
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I 100% agree with the above post or make sure the new veh has get you home breakdown cover before you leave ! Ive had over 20 LR's over the years and 2 have died before getting home the 1st time .one was on a trip from Hanover in Germany to Melton Mowbray and that was a real pain !!!
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180 miles in a landrover .? My tip would be go and collect it with a trailer.
And believe it or not I love em and have owned loads.
bah! 180miles is nothing; when I had my 1965 S2A LWB I went to visit an old schoolfriend who was living in Durness (NW scotland - I lived in SW london at that time). The only problem was it only ran on LPG so I needed to navigate a route via LPG stations which got a bit challenging inmplaces.
Oh and I wore earplugs all the way there and back.
Back to the original question:-
make sure it's not in difflock/4WD before you set off (probably won't be).
breakdown ins is not a bad idea on any journey that long in an unknown vehicle.
earplugs might not be a bad idea (though not sure if it's legal).
if it's cold weather, wrap up warm! Don't expect a landy heater to keep you toasty.
when you drive it:
1. enjoy the view
2. you'll either be grinning or gritting your teeth - that's normal.
3. when you make a tight turn be ready to stop and do a three point turn instead - they don't do tight turns.
4. don't forget a means of paying for fuel - they're not the most economical vehicles.
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Find where it leaks - all defenders leak. If you are lucky it will only be the passenger that gets wet in a storm. The other big one is draughts and use thermal underwear for comfort. Landys are not built for comfort. I love my ex MOD 90.
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I've had quite a few different Landies and the pick it up on a trailer idea is good advice. Having said that I drove my current '92 Defender back from York when I bought it about 200 miles with the view that by the time I get home I'll have a pretty good idea if this one's any good or not. If you don't mind getting your hands dirty every now and then they're a great workhorse but if you're used to modern stuff you could be in for a shock. Keep an open mind, take your time and the chances are by the time you get it home you'll be hooked!.
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Another thing, check it has lots of oil leaks.....if it isn't leaking it means there's none in there ! :excited:
Ps. I should point out this is intended to be funny but is not actually a joke....about 6 months after buying my first landrover I decided to change the oil in the rear diff....I carefully removed the drain plug and collected ....about 3 tablespoons of water !
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"bah! 180miles is nothing; when I had my 1965 S2A LWB I went to visit an old schoolfriend who was living in Durness (NW scotland - I lived in SW london at that time)."
Mab, did you have a year off for that journey ?
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Thank you for keeping the tips coming - just what I was hoping for.
I'm afraid towing it on a trailer is not an option (towing is one of the jobs I'm getting the Landy for, no towing at all possible for us at the mo) but I figured that if we make it we know it's a good one ::)
I have to insure it before getting it taxed before driving off in it and I'll make sure breakdown cover is included.
Part of me is madly excited, part of me wishes I had never dared (but if I didn't dare I'd still be living in London...)
We don't have any expectations really (beyond hoping to make it back) but it's still going to be a mad adventure...
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Lady k,
You are in for a treat, land rovers are as addictive as they are infuriating.
Budget to spend as much on it in the next year as what you paid for it.....that way with luck and a following wind you won't be disappointed.
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Stufe35 - only took a day each way (a veeery long day tho' ;D ).
my landy was old, uncomfortable, noisy, hard work, the most unreliable - needed regular maintenance and welding back together twice a year - but it was still the best vehicle I've ever owned. I miss it still.
But parts are relatively cheap, and you don't need a computer to diagnose faults, or a raft of specialist tools to fix them.
And if you keep it for ~14 years it'll become tax exempt.
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Oh come on guys, they're not nearly that bad!!
Just get aquainted with its foibles and you'll be fine. There's a lot to hate, true, but plenty to love as well. For instance, I fitted two new exhaust sections and a new thermostat last week for less than £60, and even the new fuel tank I fitted last year cost more to fill with diesel than it cost me to buy! ;D
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I'm in stitches about all the foibles of Landies ;D They don't all happen at once or to every vehicle though so don't worry.
As we're giving advice on your journey home, can I say that if you have anything larger than a very small bust, wear your most cast iron bra - Landies have rather unusual suspension.
Don't be surprised if other Landie drivers wave at you - there's not something wrong, we're just a friendly bunch :)
I think you're going to love it :love:.
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Oh yes, you'll get used to driving around (even in freezing weather) with your right arm out of the driver's side window. We all kid on that this is so we can wave at other Landy drivers, but really it's because the driving position is so cramped on that side, we're glad of the extra elbow room afforded by the open window.
Mine has had three weird breakdowns, but like Fleecewife says, not all at once ;D . The first was that the headlights all suddenly failed one night, halfway down the A9, in the dark and rain, and whilst towing a trailer full of furniture :o .
I phoned the RAC, but they were going to be three hours in coming, so I figured I'd use the time to see if I could fix it myself.
To cut a long story short, I managed to remove the trim around the steering column using only the smallest pair of scissors known to man, whereupon it became obvious that the off-sidelight-headlight switch had melted and failed. I then took the three wires out of the switch, stripped the ends off and twisted all three together. Hey presto, enough lights to get me back to Stirling! (although I had to disconnect the battery when I got there to turn them off ;D ).
As a new Landy owner, you'll soon get aquainted with Lucas, the Prince of Darkness (http://www4.ncsu.edu/~mtmorris/index3.html). For instance, it was raining as I took my landy to its MOT last year, and when I got there, the wipers refused to turn off when I stopped the engine (faulty park switch, but it had been fine the day before). Luckily the MOT guy saw the funny side and just said that as long as they went, it didn't matter if they didn't stop again, and passed it :) .
I had a similar experience a fortnight ago, for this year's MOT. I checked everything over, changed the exhaust, delaminating rear numberplate, cracked indicator bulbs (cost me about fifty quid for that lot! :D ), then proudly drove down for my MOT appointment. However, when I got to the bottom of the road and tried to indicate - no clicky noise! I tried to fix it in the carpark (checking relay connections etc), but my time was due, so I just put it in for the MOT, knowing it would now fail.
However, imagine my surprise when they put it up on the ramp and the indicators worked no problem! And they've been fine ever since too....... but of course I know that Lucas reserves the right to strike again, and naturally it will be at the most inconvenient moment possible ;D
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I learned to drive in a Landrover aged 14 (me, not the Landie-- she was a lot older) and, really they haven't changed much in over 50 years! Still the same heating system...cold until you've got to where you were going ::) The same air con system...a flap to open under the dash board and still geared up for tall men with big hands >:(
Wouldn't be without mine though, in fact couldn't do without it.
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Wear stiff bottomed boots if you are driving a long way. So much travel on the pedals your feet will get tired of bending, and it can be a killer if you are stuck in slow moving traffic. Oh yes, and make sure the doors are shut Ours don't ever really shut properly but in cold weather they take about 8 goes, and then sometimes burst open en route!
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I'm not a Landy owner, (yet says OH !), but :roflanim: reading Lucas, prince of darkness jokes. You need to post them in the Coffee Lounge jokes and funnies section so everyone can enjoy them. Thank you Womble. Still :roflanim:
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I'm not a Landy owner, (yet says OH !), but (http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/Smileys/default/rofl.gif) reading Lucas, prince of darkness jokes
Oh well in that case, make sure you stock up on spare smoke for when you finally get yourself a Landy. Why, you ask? Well, it's a well known fact that electrical circuits run entirely on smoke. We know this from observation, since once the smoke has been seen escaping from an electrical circuit, it almost always fails to work thereafter.
For this reason, you should always carry a genuine Lucas Electrics Smoke Recharge Kit (http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm), so that you can replenish the smoke supply in your Landy, should you lose any en route.
Hope that helps! ;)
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love that link, have stopped reading now as mrs b. just hit me for giggling!!!
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yes definitely get full AA cover - you can always cancel within the 2 week cooling off period, once you are home safe! we learnt the hard way by breaking down with a disco 400 miles from home.
I would love love love a landy - so very envious!
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Beware you might have landrovitis....once infected by this disease it is extremely addictive....there is no known cure.
Symptoms
You convince yourself 23 mpg is economical
Operating the radio on full volume is normal
3 point turns have been wrongly named ..they should be 10 point turns
Having the window open and your elbow stuck out is normal...even when it's -5.
You have to shout to get your passengers attention
Speeding tickets are not something that concern you
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Brilliant tips all around, and so very amusing too - I've been caught giggling more than once... Thank you all!
I think I will have to print out the lot and take it along on the trip :thumbsup:
And I'll make sure I pick the right boots and bra for the journey too :roflanim:
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It's a good job we LR owners have a sense of humour for sure. Seriosly though, if you know anyone who has owned one for a while and/or is familiar with their unique ways, get them to come with you when you pick it up. There are so many little things that could stop you in your tracks that could be sorted in minutes by someone with the right experience.
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I bet your trip to bring the landy back will go faultlessly - just to prove how contrary the things are. :roflanim:
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Just don't be in a hurry ;D
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We made it back home! :excited: :thumbsup:
Yes, it did take a while, but only minor issues emerged, no drama, seems we made a good buy.
In dire need of a glass of wine now - will be posting more on the adventure soon!
Thank you all for all the advice and encouragement :trophy:
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Well, they say that 60% of all Land Rovers ever made are still on the road.
So congratulations on being in the other 40% who actually made it to their destination! ;D
We need photos now though!
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Well... it took us about double the time the SatNav estimated but still the experience was a lot less uncomfortable or scary that one might be led to believe reading this thread ;D
We found the vehicle pretty much as described (as far as we could tell anyway, though the doors didn't lock).
OH did a quick check of things while I went off to sort the tax with the dealer (who was super helpful, I must say.)
One of the sidelights didn't come on, which dealer got down to fix there and then (he swore it worked the day before), and we got a first show of the Lukas principle: after trying a few things the problem seemed to be no earth - a bit of tightening the light fitting screws and presto the light was back on! ;D
So we set off on the long way home. The worst bit really was crossing Bristol in Saturday traffic... OH swearing at the gearbox, mostly. After that we were cruising along quite steadily at 50mph, rather pleasant really, never to worry about overtaking anything ;D
Yes, the whole thing does vibrate - but not to the point of having to shout, taking loudly is enough. With a bit of practice I think I can learn to tell the gear and speed by the sound of the vibration waves.
And then it got dark... and the full beam lights didn't work - beam switch seems to turn all lights off ??? (maybe they stopped working en route or maybe this was missed when we checked, no idea). Anyway, the dip lights are pretty good so this only became a bit problematic on the very dark roads close to home. Also what seemed to be warm(ish) air blowing out of the heater cooled down rather considerably when the temperature dropped after dark, so the last hour or so was definitely 'not toasty'. Oh and we managed to loose the fuel cap somewhere on the way (entirely our fault) ::)
All in all this was an exciting, fun and only a bit of an exhausting journey. Madness still to go all that way to pick up a Landy when we could probably got one around here anyway, but this one just came up a the right time, with right specs and right price, so it was a bit of a whim, but I think it was worth it.
I admit I chickened out from having a go at driving it, OH drove all the way (he loves driving, I hate driving). He already thinks it's a lot of fun ;D While I can already see this becoming more of a creature than a thing, another 'animal' I'll enjoy looking after on the smallholding (I'll do the looking after, including learning how to repair a few things, and OH can drive it - everybody will be happy :)
Special mention must go to Mojo the dog who was extremely patient throughout this rather long day (some kind of vibration frequency made him jump regularly). And to you TAS people for advice and encouragement :trophy:
on the upside:
it didn't break down and nothing fell off
very little rust
engine has a lot of power
gearbox cooperates once you work out the subtleties (see diagram above)
only used up a tankful of diesel for the distance (that's with the fuel cap off for about 80 miles until we noticed...)
on the downside:
doors don't lock (surely it's not a good idea to leave them unlocked, it maybe an old car but a coveted one?)
beam lights don't work (bit more complicated that one)
screen wash nozzle stopped working at squirt no.3 (it was jutting out away from the windscreen but against the wind it still hit the right spot - is this normal? :innocent:
incomplete tow bar (the bracket & electric connection is there but tow hitch/ball/plate is missing. (trying to figure out which parts exactly I need to get)
You've all been so helpful but I don't really want to keep asking too many detailed technical question here, so I'll ask two general questions?
- any recommendations for a good (and friendly) Landrover forum out there?
- recommendations for ordering parts? (I think I saw something in a past thread here but can't find it, sorry)
Thank you again!
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Www.landyzone.co.uk (http://Www.landyzone.co.uk) is quite good (apparently - my OH uses t)
Www.landroverowners.com (http://Www.landroverowners.com)
Www.lr4x4.com (http://Www.lr4x4.com)
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we use paddocks spares. a haynes manual will prove useful too. Glad you got back in one piece! I was hoping you would post an update.
Land rover locks are easy (and cheap) to change.
Enjoy being a landy owner!
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The Beast looks lovely and sooo much smarter than our old blue of a similar vintage :-[ . If you were driving through Bristol I have a feeling he may have come from a dealer near us.
You will be hooked now and there's no escape :roflanim:
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That looks like a pretty tidy 90 for it's age. Remember if you get fed up of the cramped space in the truck cab it's an easy job to convert it into a hardtop. The truck cab will be warmer in the winter though due to less space for the rather pathetic heater to warm up. Enjoy it.
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^ What they said! Yours looks to be in considerably better nick than my much newer one, so well done! :thumbsup: . I see it has all the usual foibles installed as standard!
- doors don't lock - Door locks are very easily / cheaply replaced without taking the door off, just the inner lining. Do both of them at once so you'll only need one key for both doors. You'll find a guide online easily enough. Just buy more of the clippy things that hold the door lining on, as you're bound to break most of them. Also lubricate the window mechanisms whilst you're in there.
- The beam lights don't work - Just the usual stuff to work through really. Beware of bad (high resistance) earth faults. These can be confusing the first time you come across one (he says :innocent: ), as the bulbs will be getting the correct voltage, but no current. The other thing to be aware of is if the headlight bulbs have been upgraded, but without relays being added. On my landy, the extra spotlights had just been wired in in parallel with the existing full beam circuit, and the additional current caused two indicator switches to burn out before I figured out what the problem was. Mine now has a bank of relays under the passanger seat, and I've had no further problems.
- screen wash nozzle stopped working at squirt no.3 (it was jutting out away from the windscreen but against the wind it still hit the right spot - is this normal? (http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/Smileys/default/whistling.gif) - Yes, fairly normal. Mine had an advisory on "screenwash not adequately covering windscreen, and wipers poor", and I had to point out it left the factory like that! I did fix it though, by installing jets that attach to the front wipers and spray directly onto the screen, which is a big improvement. If you fancy a little faffing, check whether a "99 relay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-VW-FORD-VAUXHALL-NO-99-PROGRAMMABLE-WIPER-RELAY-357-955-531-/111483500439)" will fit your Landy. This is a wiper relay from a VW sharan IIRC, and just replaces the existing one. However, what it gives you is infinitely variable intermittent wipers. You just flick the wiper switch once, then wait for the delay time you want between wipes, then flick it again and it remembers the delay. It's the simple things..... ;D
- incomplete tow bar (the bracket & electric connection is there but tow hitch/ball/plate is missing. (trying to figure out which parts exactly I need to get). - A call to Paddocks will sort you out there. However, do you ONLY need a ball? If so, I have a landy one I can send you in return for donating the postage to charity. It's a combination ball/pin hitch, but the pin tended to seize in place, so I replaced it with another one I had. PM me if it's any use to you.
- You've all been so helpful but I don't really want to keep asking too many detailed technical question here, so I'll ask two general questions? - ah what the hell, makes a nice change from talking about sheep and chickens. I can't add anything to what's already been posted on those. At the risk of starting an argument though, I now avoid Britpart parts wherever possible. Except for simple consumables like filters, I've just found them to be a false economy. For example, the key for the Britpart locking wheel nuts failed whilst putting the first wheel *on*, and I had a hell of a job getting it back off again (had to weld a spanner to the nut and then hit it off with a hammer!). I know sometimes Britpart stuff is as good as or even the same as the genuine article, but after this and a few more bad experiences, I now shell out a little bit more for Bearmach or Allmakes parts when the option exists!
Enjoy your Landy - it looks like a cracker! :thumbsup:
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Something suspect about your landrover....tdi model didn't come out until h reg. I would make enquiries sharpish...might just be an aftermarket decal...or 2nd hand replacement wing..but who knows.?
What has it been sold to you as ?
What engine is actually in it ?
It looks very good mind , I'm very jealous....it's not uncommon for landis this old to have been done up over the years, so don't panic , but I would carry out some basic checks all the same.
I used to use paddocks for a lot of parts, buy one of the landrover mags in the newsagent they are full of adds for parts.
Do you know looking at that picture I might just have to go and treat myself to one...the disease has got hold of me again !
Ask any questions you like on here , in the hay day of your landrover there wasn't anything I didn't know about them......well not much any way !
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Thank you all for keeping the advice coming :thumbsup:
Glad you seem to think it looks good for its age (that's what I thought too, but then I have no clue...)
It was sold as 'fitted with TDI200' - this was part of the spec advertised, so wouldn't have thought this was dodgy? Dealer was open about the fact that this was a newer engine fitted into an older model - I didn't think this was strange? Even 'normal' cars of a certain age have engines replaced sometimes, I thought this may be even more common with Landys. What else should I have enquired about?
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Now you explain it's had a new engine, I think the vehicle probably got new wings and grill from the vehicle that donated the engine too , which is why I noticed anomalies for its age. Rest at ease !
Now let me get back to ebay to find my self one ! It does look fab.
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If you ever think you have broken the rear half shaft ... Don't ever lean you fancy 10 gear rough terrain bicycle across the front end whilst you prove it by selecting four wheel drive and accelerate away .
For it takes several minutes with an angle grinder to remove a mangled cycle from under & around the gear box.
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If it has a 200tdi engine fitted then you have the best engine LR ever made for the Fender in my book. No nasty electronics, very reliable and simple to fix if anything does go wrong. Just keep on top of your oil changes and it should last a very long time.
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If it has a 200tdi engine fitted then you have the best engine LR ever made for the Fender in my book. No nasty electronics, very reliable and simple to fix if anything does go wrong. Just keep on top of your oil changes and it should last a very long time.
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Must have been beginners luck! ;D
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If it has a 200tdi engine fitted then you have the best engine LR ever made for the Fender in my book. No nasty electronics, very reliable and simple to fix if anything does go wrong. Just keep on top of your oil changes and it should last a very long time.
Yes I would second that
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How's it going after a few weeks of ownership ? Hooked ?
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OH thinks it's great fun driving 'the beast' :thumbsup:
I'm still a bit in awe of the temperamental gearbox (never been very confident with gearboxes to start with) but I'm sure I'll get there. Farmer neighbours are all suitably impressed ;D
Not sure we will turn into mechanics though - I got some new lock barrels to replace on the non-lockable doors, and keep looking at the instructions online and in the manual but can't bring myself to attempt starting to take the door apart - too scared I will not be able to put it back together again... ::)
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Re the doors, don't worry - it's pretty easy.
The fiddly bits are getting the cover off from around the locking knob in the top corner. You may break the retaining clip for it if you're not careful, though it will still function without. Likewise, count on breaking at least half of the trim clips - just replace them. It's worth buying the proper trim removal tool (http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-CAR-WINDSCREEN-BODY-TRIM-PAD-REMOVER-TOOL-U-SHAPED-UK-SELLER-/141081790208) though, as it does make the job easier.
Then, before you take the window handle off, note its position with the window fully up, so you can put it back at angle angle that won't attack your calves.
The lock barrel replacement is pretty straightforward. Whilst you're in there, it's worth checking for rusty bits around the bottom of the doors and painting / treating them, and also greasing up the window winder mechanism for good measure.
Hope that helps!
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Thanks for the encouragement, Womble!
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Oh, one thing I should have said before now, especially in wet weather, you're best to leave it parked in gear but with the handbrake off as they have a habit of sticking otherwise.
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Harumph just did a long (and, even if I say so myself, amusing) post about picking up our Landy but it got swallowed by the cyber monsters :rant:
Anyhoo thought I'd post a piccy anyway :excited: