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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: mebnandtrn on October 02, 2014, 01:02:24 pm

Title: weaners
Post by: mebnandtrn on October 02, 2014, 01:02:24 pm
What time of year are weaners available to buy, and are they available most of the year? Just deciding when to venture into pigs - now ish or spring or another time?  Also does anyone have / will anyone have in the future any weaners in the Cheshire ish area please?  Not too fussed about breed etc.  Once again many thanks.
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: Bionic on October 02, 2014, 01:39:51 pm
From my limited experience they are available all year round although I have no idea what would be available in your area.
If this is your first time with weaners I would wait until spring. I am sure you will enjoy them more then. They turn the ground over very quickly and you could be up to your ankles in mud in no time. Spring mud is one thing but being cold and muddy is not the best and having to break the icea on their water etc, but if you don't mind that then go for it now.
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: Marches Farmer on October 02, 2014, 02:39:41 pm
I agree on late Spring being a good choice for your first expedition into keeping weaners.  We should have a couple of litters of Gloucestershire Old Spots available then.  A popular choice for firsttimers due to docility, excellent taste and the fact that lop ears means they get into less trouble than the prick-eared variety!
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: Young Ed on October 02, 2014, 02:41:17 pm
we always buy sort of spring time and then they would be off for slaughter around september or so
if you get them now then you are keeping them through the winter which we have thought about having a second batch to do but never got to it, the problem is then that you are keeping them when the ground is wet and muddy and they have a higher potential for foot problems and there could be a bit of snow on the ground for a short period in the uk so housing must be suitable for such

basically keeping them through spring and summer is a lot easier and simpler IMO
Cheers Ed
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: mebnandtrn on October 02, 2014, 05:34:30 pm
Thank you everyone
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: Holly on October 23, 2014, 12:46:57 pm
Hello, we have pedigree Gloucester Old Spot Weaners available at the moment.  One litter is coming up to 8 weeks and another litter will be available for new homes mid December.  A lovely breed for a first time venture.  We are based in Holmesfield, North East Derbyshire.  Contact Holly on 07950 923762 or look at my Facebook page 'Little Orchards Farm' for pictures etc.  Good luck
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: littleacorn on October 23, 2014, 11:33:46 pm
We have some Gloucestershire Old Spots boar weaners 9 weeks old and we are near Whitchurch if you want a couple now.   ;D
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: Womble on October 24, 2014, 12:13:14 am
So for your average porkers, what age will they be when you pick them up, and what age will they be when ready for the freezer?  (Just planning for next year, when we hope *finally* to be able to get some of our own!)
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: Dogwalker on October 24, 2014, 10:16:16 am
Definitely wait till spring.

I had to send mine off last week because of the mud.
I usually buy in May, at about 8 weeks, and send off in October, at about 7 months.  By which time they're big, pushy teenagers and likely to knock me over.
  As it's been a dry summer even here they'd stripped the turf back and had firm bare earth until October.  Last Thursday when we had torrential rain all day, by teatime it was so churned up I couldn't safely step over the electric fence to put their feed in the trough.
They went Monday and I collect the meat tomorrow. :yum:
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: Marches Farmer on October 25, 2014, 08:11:47 pm
I generally sell GOS weaners at around 9 weeks - 8 with Mum then a week to get used to being without her and taking all nutrition as pellets.  I would generally reckon on taking boars to slaughter at 24 weeks, gilts a fortnight or so later.
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: MKay on October 26, 2014, 11:08:54 am
There are many - livestock for sale in *insert county* groups on Facebook now and are an excellent way if keeping apprised of what is available in your area and when. Plus there is a bit more come back than gumtree so I would expect a better class of seller as the unacceptables will be weaned out.
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: Sudanpan on October 26, 2014, 07:17:20 pm
We've fattened a few pigs each year for 5 years now. For the 1st 4 years we bought them in March and they would be ready for slaughter around July. This year we got them in July and they are going in 2 weeks. We changed from Spring because we felt it was such a shame to miss out on giving them all the surplus from the polytunnel, grass growth and excess veg from the fields around us (with permission).
Our pigs have a large paddock area (4 pigs in 30m by 40m) so although they have done a pretty good job of turning a lot of it over there is still a fair amount of un- "rotovated" paddock.
As for breeds - the first 2 years we had lop eared pigs (GOS and GOS crosses) and found they were very docile basically cos they didn't see very well! The last 3 batches have been more pointy ears, a big difference and they have been MUCH more boisterous  :excited:
Whatever you choose, enjoy, they are addictive  :innocent:
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: sabrina on October 26, 2014, 07:30:44 pm
I just picked up two this afternoon. My ark is on hard standing and their paddock drains very well so I have never had a problem having piglets over the winter.
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: BenBhoy on October 27, 2014, 12:46:01 pm
They are available year round as has been said. I use to manage a outdoor breeding unit, we put upwards of 900 weaners onto a lorry every week, 52 weeks of the year.

As has been said the only issue would be how messy they will make the paddock during wet weather. Then when that wet mud freezes into rock hard sharp points they are reluctant to walk about on it but you'd be incredibly beautiful unlucky to get pig with foot problems cos of wet weather, they aren't sheep!

But summertime brings issues too, need for shade and wallows to keep cool and happy.
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: Tudful Tamworths on November 02, 2014, 10:30:33 pm
By all means, make plans for having pigs in spring, BUT start making enquiries now. Some people seem to think breeders keep weaners sitting on a shelf, waiting for buyers. In reality, lots of litters are booked way in advance - some even before they are born.


If you have a particular breed in mind, start doing your research and looking for breeders now. Otherwise you may end up buying any old thing at market, just because you want to start keeping pigs in spring - and it may not be a wise move.
Title: Re: weaners
Post by: Marches Farmer on November 03, 2014, 10:28:53 am
By all means, make plans for having pigs in spring, BUT start making enquiries now. Some people seem to think breeders keep weaners sitting on a shelf, waiting for buyers. In reality, lots of litters are booked way in advance - some even before they are born.

How true!  I could've sold this Spring's litters four times over.  The sows producing those piglets will be put to the boar November/December so that's the time to book 'em.