The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: jools66 on September 22, 2014, 09:40:40 pm
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That's the 2nd time I have caught my neighbour's dog in my garden !! So far I have been lucky as my chickens have not been free ranging at the time but it keeps going for the quail in their hutch. I now have scratch marks on the hutch and nervous quail.
I have reinforced my fence and hedge but I was wondering if there are any laws on this ?
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Rather than get into a legal argument it might be better to talk to your neighbour if they are amenable (they may not be if they let their dog out knowing it has an escape route :innocent:)
You could tell them that they would have to pay for any hens it kills. But if they aren't the listening kind http://www.justanswer.com/uk-law/ (http://www.justanswer.com/uk-law/)
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If your law in Scotland for these things is like ours it is up to you the land owner to fence it so it will keep the dog out..
It's not right , I know, for I've had probs like that as well .
Perhaps capture the dog and hand it into the pound as a stray for it may not be your neighbours. :innocent:
Then who ever claims it will have to pay the release & kennel fee, If it's not claimed the problem gets solved one way or another by the kennels .
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It is up to the owner of the dog to keep it under control.
There is no such thing as a bad dog...just bad dog owners.
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Does the ruling about shooting dogs that worry livestock not apply to poultry? If the owner is not reasonable, you could mention this.
As an alternatively, what about some electric fencing connected to the mains?
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The neighbour's do say sorry but often instead of walking their 2 dogs they just let them run around their garden and I think because they are kept in the house for long periods before getting out the poor dogs are wild .
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Do you have a dog warden in your area? Maybe a word from them will give the neighbours something to think about.
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I had this and in the end had to put extra fencing everywhere. Plus electric but I do have paddocks. Neighbours dogs spent more time on our land than there own. I know you can shoot dogs chasing livestock on farm land in Scotland but not sure if that would cover a garden.
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Just a thought, but if the dog is getting in, so can a fox. Might be worth stepping up security on the chickens in any case. Have to admit I think there are plenty of 'bad' dogs around, though many have very responsible owners.
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My thoughts too - I reckon if my dogs can't get out of my garden others can't get in - but foxes still can, so my chicken and duck runs are netted, with only daytime free ranging when I'm here. They're shut back in if I need to go out
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My chickens only free range when I am there and its more that 3 of my quail ended up with bloody heads as they kept flying up in their hutch to get away from the terrier . We both have good fencing around our gardens it is only between us the dog manages to get out !
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Quail can kill themselves if repeatedly scared like that. It's causing preventable suffering ...... have you made it clear in a friendly but firm way to your neighbour the problems that the dog is causing to the quail. Some people just don't seem to get it. Someone told me that their dog was so friendly he would just 'play' with sheep :o. Explained that it wasn't a good idea and why ::). This was a holiday maker and the local farmers would have had more than a quiet word if his dog had gone to 'play' with the sheep. You may have to spell it out or invite them round to see the damage caused.
Terriers can be hard to contain. Father had a similar problem with a neighbours terrier and his chickens. Neighbour was elderly so dad reinforced the fence but explained that if the terrier continued to dig his way in despite wiring down then they would have to take measures to secure their garden.
If my dog was getting out I would consider it my duty to secure fencing and contain them.
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I once had this problem and "captured" the offending dog, put it in the stable then chalked up a notice on the blackboard by our gate that we use for egg sales - "Found - Dog." The neighbours could be heard calling it then they walked down the lane and saw the notice. Red faces and mumbled apology from them and I never saw the dog again.
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It is absolutely the dog owners responsibility to fence their dog in if they wish to let it loose in their garden. End of , no arguments.
Think about it logically...if they started keeping elephants, would you then think it was your job to provide a fence capable of keeping them out ?
If you keep animals it is your responsibility to fence them in (or keep them under control) ...not your neighbours responsibility to fence them out.
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I would discuss this with your neighbours. Just talk it through - they are people just like the rest of us I presume, and most people would be mortified if they thought their pet was harming another living creature. You need to live next to live next door to these people so try build a relationship.
I have a really good relationship with my next door neighbours - lovely people - yet their hens keep wandering into my garden and sometimes I have to return them in a carrier bag after my dogs find them before me. Seems I'm the only one distressed and upset by this :-( Good fences make good neighbours ;-)
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I know this is a serious thread, and I have a bad mind, but I just can't help it..........TITLE BLOOP. Fits in with the sticky from Sally about apostrophes. :sofa:
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You are bad FW :o .
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FW, how rude! :o :o :o
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:roflanim: :roflanim: :o ;D
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In the naughty chair.... NOW ;D
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:roflanim: :roflanim: :roflanim:
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In the naughty chair.... NOW ;D
I spend a lot of time there :eyelashes:
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I know this is a serious thread, and I have a bad mind, but I just can't help it..........TITLE BLOOP. Fits in with the sticky from Sally about apostrophes.
Did you mean the thread that begins:
Please can we ban apostrophes on TAS as no-one ever gets them right (me included ;D ) They are like the Highland midge to me - a constant background annoyance and probably totally unneccessary to the planet.
:innocent:
And actually,
Neighbours dog in my garden
is now my fave 'why we need apostrophes' example! :roflanim: (Sorry jools66, off to join FW in the naughty corner :-J)
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The neighbour's do say sorry but often instead of walking their 2 dogs they just let them run around their garden and I think because they are kept in the house for long periods before getting out the poor dogs are wild .
sounds very familiar... >:(
trouble is here, we're the ones with livestock and the neighbour is the one with the gun!!
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Maybe you need a gun as well, Ruth.