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Title: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: bekka@dh on September 09, 2014, 09:12:31 am
Last week, my deaf pig (12weeks old) got the squits and has had grey liquidy poo since. I thought it may have been something he ate as they live out in a woodland, but it hasnt cleared up. He was eating the same feed as the others and they are all fine. A couple of days ago he started to lose condition and become much more lethargic. As he is deaf, he does tend to spend time sleeping in the ark when the others are up and about because he doesnt hear them get up but this morning he didnt want to get up even when I woke him and didnt eat his breakfast.

So, in short - grey liquid poo (no bloody or mucus), lethargic and loosing condition (his spine is prominant).
They were wormed before they were weaned but I gave them all a dose of panacur yesterday incase it is worms and he was missed out of the original dosing. Any ideas?

I am worried that he may become dehydrated - can I give him anything to help like you can give electrolytes to humans?

Many thanks for your comments in advance - am waiting to hear back from my vet too.....
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: SophieLeeds on September 09, 2014, 09:38:19 am
Last week, my deaf pig (12weeks old) got the squits and has had grey liquidy poo since. I thought it may have been something he ate as they live out in a woodland, but it hasnt cleared up. He was eating the same feed as the others and they are all fine. A couple of days ago he started to lose condition and become much more lethargic. As he is deaf, he does tend to spend time sleeping in the ark when the others are up and about because he doesnt hear them get up but this morning he didnt want to get up even when I woke him and didnt eat his breakfast.

So, in short - grey liquid poo (no bloody or mucus), lethargic and loosing condition (his spine is prominant).
They were wormed before they were weaned but I gave them all a dose of panacur yesterday incase it is worms and he was missed out of the original dosing. Any ideas?

I am worried that he may become dehydrated - can I give him anything to help like you can give electrolytes to humans?

Many thanks for your comments in advance - am waiting to hear back from my vet too.....

Could be scours, your vet will prescibe a grey chalk type powder for it. He needs monitoring incase of it being contagious. Speak to vet immediately, many piglets loose their lives to scours and other things like this. Good luck  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: Fowgill Farm on September 09, 2014, 11:30:05 am
Grey scours can also be enzootic pneumonia so watch for any of the others going down with it. Vet usually presecribes Tylan in their water. If you're worried about him dehydrtaing make up some calf electrolytes and syringe them down his throat. Don't give him cows milk it'll make him worse. Hope the little chap is ok  :hug:
HTH
Mandy
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: bekka@dh on September 09, 2014, 12:06:09 pm
Vets have given me Noroclav an electrolytes. Poor boy is not a happy one. Anyone used Noroclav for pigs before? I have used it for my dog previously! 
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: Liam_86 on September 09, 2014, 12:19:18 pm
What have you been feeding them? We had a similar problem and is was traced back to the feed....Farmgate.
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: bekka@dh on September 09, 2014, 12:35:25 pm
Liam, I dont think it is a problem with the feed as the others are all fine.
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: Liam_86 on September 09, 2014, 03:43:47 pm
I had 8 weaners and 2 of them died from the fungus in the corn in farmgate feeds. All of the pigs were eating the same feed but 2 died, i was gutted.

Dont want to worry you, hope yours are recover
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: Marches Farmer on September 10, 2014, 09:00:23 pm
Always smell the feed when you open a new sack.  If it's been bagged in humid weather (like we have now) it may smell musty.  I've known of it causing infertility in sows (not mine, fortunately).
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: bekka@dh on September 12, 2014, 04:50:21 pm
Pig still going! :excited:
He has had 2 sachets of electrolytes and noroclav tablets.
He seems to be picking up - eating everything but the feed still though so feeding grass, blackberries, potatoes and apples. Not sure if he is just being fussy now because we pampered him?! Nuts all smell fine and the others tucking in and fine. He was a greedy pig though so maybe he scoffed it all too quickly and it caused some gut disruption?

Keep your fingers crossed though please!
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: Bionic on September 12, 2014, 04:51:05 pm
 :fc:  bekka
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: Daisys Mum on September 12, 2014, 05:14:25 pm
 :fc:
Title: Re: Poorly pig
Post by: bekka@dh on September 15, 2014, 02:16:06 pm
A little update on my little deaf pig for all of you very helpful people out there...
He is still going!
His poo went from grey to liquid with undigested pellets. He is a scoffer so I think he ate the pellets too quickly and he has a slightly messed up digestion system - in that the pellets went through too quickly without being digested - making him ill.
So - have started to feed 6 times a day (we are lucky because they live on site with us) and fingers crossedstill - he is back to eating again.

Perhaps he had a dodgy digestive system and because they are only weaners - it may have been too soon to go onto 3 meals a day?
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: Roxy on September 16, 2014, 12:28:57 am
Add some apple cider vinegar to his water - he should drink that.  Its good for the digestion - for everything not just pigs.  Hope he recovers ok.  When my pig was off colour, she did not eat for days ....but I kept offering her little treats, and finally she decided to eat a banana.
Title: Re: Poorly pig - advice please
Post by: Marches Farmer on September 16, 2014, 05:08:47 pm
Would feel cautious about feeding potatoes. Too much fruit and roughage for a young pig could lead to an impacted gut.  You could try mixing a little molasses or treacle into the weaner nuts - pigs have a very sweet tooth.