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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: Young Ed on July 26, 2014, 07:59:39 am

Title: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: Young Ed on July 26, 2014, 07:59:39 am
when i am buying sheep off a local farmer, who does the movement forms or online stuff etc? i think it is the seller but just want to check?

what do i need with me? is it just my CPH no. and flock no.?
Cheers Ed
Title: Re: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: Rosemary on July 26, 2014, 08:37:01 am
The seller will give you two copies of the movement licence, You keep the yellow one and send the white one to SAMU. Don't know about on-line - not brave enough to go there yet.

You only need the CPH number.
Title: Re: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: fsmnutter on July 26, 2014, 09:40:54 am
Depending on where you are, I think England have moved over to doing stuff electronically more as well.
It will still be the case that the seller completes the movement document, then when you get home you have to notify the relevant people (SAMU in Scotland, either by sending the white sheet back by post, or I prefer scan and email) as stated at the bottom of the movement document.
Then you have to amend your holding register with the movement, giving you an updated total of sheep, or if they are your first sheep, then you will have your first entry! You should have been sent a holding register with your CPH/flock number, but you can download electronic versions, or even make your own based on the required data.
As I have goats, pigs and sheep, I have an Excel version with a page for each to save a million different ones!
Enjoy your sheep when they come!
Title: Re: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: Young Ed on July 26, 2014, 11:37:44 am
thanks all, why are you in scotland?! :p i am down in the south east of england here :(
will try to post a excel document i made up a little later
Cheers Ed
Title: Re: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: fsmnutter on July 26, 2014, 11:44:09 am
I'm on the Moray Coast of Scotland because I can't stand the heat, I get sunstroke and heatstroke incredibly easily!
Also, I'm a vet, and it is very difficult to work in waterproofs when you are in a hotter place!
Even up here, I've had the early stages of heatstroke at least 3 times that I can think of this year
Title: Re: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: Rosemary on July 26, 2014, 12:00:50 pm
why are you in scotland?

Because it's God's country  :)
Title: Re: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: Young Ed on July 26, 2014, 01:33:54 pm
i admit i am just slightly jealous of you lot in scotland
but i shall fulfil my dream one day and move out to Sweden! :D
Cheers Ed
Title: Re: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: firther on July 27, 2014, 07:44:42 am
why are you in scotland?

Because it's God's country  :)



heeeey rosemary that's Yorkshire  ;D
Title: Re: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: Young Ed on July 27, 2014, 07:06:55 pm
it said on the bottom of the form
'White copy: Local authority of destination premises within 3 days of move'
is the 'local authority' my local defra office? how do i find this and the address for it? do i need to write something special on the envelope or something?
Cheers Ed
Title: Re: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: Bramblecot on July 28, 2014, 05:51:04 pm
Ed, It all changed in April 2014 and you can now register online :thinking: . 
Look up w.w.w.arams.co.uk. 
I think the new address to send the forms is in Milton Keynes ::) , it used to be your local office.  As you can tell, I haven't moved any since April ;D .
Title: Re: Buying sheep, movement things?
Post by: Melmarsh on July 28, 2014, 09:23:55 pm
Hi ! If you want to use paper then send to. Animal Reporting and Movement Service, SouthWestern , PO Box 6299 , Milton Keynes ,MK10 1ZQ. 
Alternatively go online.  Your local trading standards will no longer be dealing with the paperwork .
Good Luck  :innocent: