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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: kelly58 on April 22, 2014, 11:57:05 am

Title: Pig rolls
Post by: kelly58 on April 22, 2014, 11:57:05 am
Piggies are 'going off' on Sunday  :'( Have bag of sow rolls left, do any other animals eat them ?
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: Merrie Dancer on April 22, 2014, 12:01:13 pm
good for catching ponies, very handy size.
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: kelly58 on April 22, 2014, 12:08:30 pm
Only got my old shetland stallion left, take a while to use up ?
We also have   :goat: :sheep: could they eat them mixed in with their feed ?
I feed the goaties a small dinner all year round because they have vits and herbal stuff in it, for the aches and pains of ageing ! Know the feeling  :farmer:
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: Merrie Dancer on April 22, 2014, 12:14:21 pm
from what i remember when speaking to a AH inspector a few years ago - pig food cant be fed to goats and sheep because they might have fish meal in them and that isnt to be given to ruminants, not because they cant eat fish meal but the testing for meat products in ruminant feed cant distinguish between fish and meat....or something like that, so no its not legal but is probably safe  ::) ::) and also needs to be kept at least a metre away in storage.  ::) ::) ::)
maybe its changed now...

make a mash for the hens??
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: kelly58 on April 22, 2014, 12:20:44 pm
Is that ok to crush it up in water for the chuckies  :chook: :chook: :chook:
Will check the contents see whats what  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: Merrie Dancer on April 22, 2014, 12:31:03 pm
id guess so.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: HappyHippy on April 22, 2014, 02:48:37 pm
from what i remember when speaking to a AH inspector a few years ago - pig food cant be fed to goats and sheep because they might have fish meal in them and that isnt to be given to ruminants, not because they cant eat fish meal but the testing for meat products in ruminant feed cant distinguish between fish and meat....or something like that
I was told this of chicken food  :-\
Our donkey loves pig nuts  ::) :innocent:
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: kelly58 on April 22, 2014, 04:58:33 pm
Bit far to post Karen  :roflanim: Oh well looks like Zak (shetland) will be dining on sow rolls for a year  :horse:
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: oaklandspigs on April 22, 2014, 06:31:04 pm
Be wary of feeding them to sheep.  Pig food has a higher copper content which can make sheep sick, and in the worst case die.

From my notes :

"Copper levels pig feed
Copper is essential for life.

Sheep need 5mg per kg of copper in their diet.  Levels above 25 can cause problems - symptoms are that sheep go lethargic, drink lots and grind teeeth.  Untreated death can occur.  A drench from the vet can cure/aid recovery if promptly administered.

Levels of copper can be higher in pig grower feeds, as it can aid growth performance.  Of 5 labels we have from different feeds we have used over the years, one shows 17mg per kg, two 25mg (inc one grower), and one grower 171mg!

Feeding any of these daily would be likely to create a problem!

I would not feed pig feed to sheep for this reason, but any cross contamination from say using the same scoop between two bins would not create an issue, and say one feed by mistake would be highly unlikely to kill the sheep. "


Don't know about goats or other animals.
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: kelly58 on April 22, 2014, 07:45:02 pm
Thanks Oaklands, wont take any chances will pass them on to guy  who has pigs up here  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: HappyHippy on April 24, 2014, 10:13:26 pm
Sorry Jo, I missed your reply to my last post!
I wasn't suggesting you sent them down to my donkey - though if he could talk he probably would !  :roflanim:
Your little Shetland will like them too (ours does  ;)) but pig food is definitely most appreciated by pigs  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: Fowgill Farm on April 28, 2014, 10:14:15 am
and labradors!
mandy :pig:
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: HappyHippy on April 29, 2014, 12:04:12 am
Oh yeah - dog's love 'em ! But end up smelling a bit like pigs when they fart  ::) (ask me how I know  ;D)
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: kelly58 on April 29, 2014, 09:15:55 am
 :roflanim: :roflanim:
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: Nethermoor Pigs on May 03, 2014, 08:29:39 pm
it says on the back of my pig feed (translated to standard english) "don't allow sheep access to this feed or to poo of pigs eating this feed"
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: shygirl on May 03, 2014, 08:35:19 pm
really? - must be the copper then. what make/brand is that nethermoor?
Title: Re: Pig rolls
Post by: Nethermoor Pigs on May 03, 2014, 09:14:22 pm
farmgate