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Title: Bread
Post by: sabrina on January 29, 2014, 08:16:31 pm
OH bought a bread maker today and we have just had our first taste of warm bread with butter and jam. To die for !! I use to make by hand but now not able to with joint problems in my fingers. As some shop bought bread now has soya which I cannot have we decided on the bread maker. Wonderful.
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Post by: Louise Gaunt on January 29, 2014, 08:27:02 pm
Fresh bread is just one of life's real pleasures. The simple things are always the best!
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Post by: mowhaugh on January 29, 2014, 08:34:27 pm
Yum!  My mouth is watering now.
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Post by: Clarebelle on January 29, 2014, 08:36:57 pm
my oH bought me a bread maker for xmas a year ago and now we never buy shop bought bread. you can also make dough, cakes, jam and frui compotes in my model. Love it!
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Post by: Anke on January 29, 2014, 09:14:29 pm
The ONE and ONLY kitchen gadget my OH is on good terms with.... and has been since we married more than 13 years ago. We are on (at least) our third one though, after a while of (nearly) daily use we find something usually goes...
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Post by: Factotum on January 29, 2014, 10:32:23 pm
We've had one for years - we have one that has up to 13 hours delay  program- put the ingredients in before bedtime, get up to a freshly baked loaf for breakfast, and the house smells great...

Wouldn't be without a bread-maker - it's lovely for making dough to shape for rolls, italian breads, pittas, pizza bases, french style dough for baguettes, naan bread - and Steve wonders why we're getting fat!

Sue
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Post by: Raine on January 29, 2014, 10:36:24 pm
 :wave:


I have to move the bread machine into a warm room, otherwise it doesn't get hot enough to prove!  I do love fresh bread though!
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Post by: Bert on January 30, 2014, 01:23:06 pm
Sabrina what bread maker did you get ? And what recipe did you use?
 I love fresh bread  :yum:
I'm getting really sick of the stale stuff that costs an arm & a leg.
I've tried on many occasions to make bread by hand with varying degrees of house brick as my result  :thumbsup: . I've thought about it before but haven't got a clue what a good bread maker looks like  :-[ . The other half had one before we got together but he said it was crap. So I've always stayed away from them. If someone could point me in the right direction that would be fantastic. :excited:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Greenerlife on January 30, 2014, 01:45:57 pm
Bert - don't get any other breadmaker than a Panasonic.  They are streets ahead of the rest.  Had one for over 14 years and have recently replaced it with the same but updated model.  The difference in the recipes is interesting though...much less salt and much less sugar, and none of the recipes include powdered milk, which pretty much all the old ones did.  Weird - but healthier!  Mine is the SD-2501
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: waddy on January 30, 2014, 02:13:31 pm
I bought the panasonic SD-2501 also, on recommendations from here when my ancient secondhand breadmaker went kaput. It is fabulous and i now get perfect results everytime. I used to get too heavy bread with hand kneading alone in spite of kneading until it felt silky (and as much as my hands would take). Now everything is well risen . I use it a lot for dough and shape rolls/baugettes etc. I can make small amounts (and also with larger amounts freeze some - I like to freeze some part baked rolls so I can quickly have fresh baked whenever i want) and so now don't get  any wasted bread. So quick and easy and less hassle than having to drive to the shops!
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Helen
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: sabrina on January 30, 2014, 02:47:18 pm
OH bought the Panasonic SD-2501. he did a lot of research before buying. We just used the recipe for the basic loaf but it can do all sorts of thing.
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Greenerlife on January 30, 2014, 02:53:05 pm
OH bought the Panasonic SD-2501. he did a lot of research before buying. We just used the recipe for the basic loaf but it can do all sorts of thing.


Wait until you try the Panetonne bread recipe!   :hungry:  :hungry:   (we need a really really fat smiley!)
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Fleecewife on January 30, 2014, 03:17:28 pm
Definitely Panasonic for me too.  We've had ours for yonks and it's still going strong  :fc:   Previously had a Henry (Hinari) but it got a hole in its bucket.
I still have the old recipes but I use only 1/2 teasp salt and 1 teasp sugar per XL loaf.  What does the new recipe recommend for 21 oz flour?
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Greenerlife on January 30, 2014, 03:41:33 pm
Definitely Panasonic for me too.  We've had ours for yonks and it's still going strong  :fc:   Previously had a Henry (Hinari) but it got a hole in its bucket.
I still have the old recipes but I use only 1/2 teasp salt and 1 teasp sugar per XL loaf.  What does the new recipe recommend for 21 oz flour?
I only work in metric, but 500g is teaspoon and a quarter salt, teaspoon and a half sugar.  The old recipe was tablespoon and a half of sugar!
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Post by: Clarebelle on January 30, 2014, 03:53:29 pm
i also second the panasonic, thats what i have. its my first breadmaker so nothing to compare it to but it has been fab everytime so far!
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Post by: Bert on January 30, 2014, 07:35:54 pm
Wow that is a unanimous vote for the Panasonic  :trophy: :thumbsup:
Thanks for that
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Post by: benandjerry on January 30, 2014, 08:19:51 pm
Bread makers one of the best kitchen gadgets ever..... especially if you have one with a timer, we are on our third!  Confused me when our lastest one went from using butter to oil!  I bought some mini hovis tins of ebay and make the dough then put it into the tins, let it rise, bake and mini rolls to go with soup.  Or I make mini garlic bread.  Pizza dough is also a firm favourite.  By default from a relative we got a bread / meat slicer, so I tend to use the breadmaker all day can do about 4 to 6 loaves, then OH slices them on the machine, they get bagged up and into the freezer.  The reason behind this is because, the fresh bread is gorgeous, but is also a weight putter on er! :-[  Especially when 'I'll just have another slice...'

Invest in a good bread making recipe book and go for it.
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 30, 2014, 11:01:10 pm
Mine's a Morphy Richards just to be different. I've no complaints about it except for the gluten free bread. The book suggests a certain make of flour which I can't get but I can't see that it would make any difference so long as it was bread flour which I do use.
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Min on January 31, 2014, 12:04:22 pm
Ah, so it IS (theoretically) possible to make gluten free bread in a breadmaker? I love my Panasonic but I appear to have become gluten intolerant.  :gloomy:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Lesley Silvester on January 31, 2014, 03:53:09 pm
Yes,  you can. You just need a gluten free recipe and you can find one on the back of Doves Farm gluten free bread flour.
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Post by: ladyK on January 31, 2014, 07:23:01 pm
Me too I had the Panasonic 2501 for a year now, and wondering why I didn't get one sooner!
I like making bread by hand but then only egt arund it twice a year, and with the machine I make a loaf every other day and it's perfect.
I particularly like dark rye bread, which is impossible to find now that we moved out here (and was hideously expensive to buy in London) and that particular Panasonic model is one of the few that do rye bread!
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Post by: RUSTYME on January 31, 2014, 08:09:58 pm
I have a Prima breadmaker , and use it all the time .
I make bread , cakes and have made jam in it .
I have made rye bread in mine , don't they all ?
I do by a sliced hovis best of both for toast , but i mainly buy Wrights bread mix . I get the mixed grain one ; wheat flour , kibbled malted wheat , oat flakes , rye flour , malt flour ( wheat and barley ) , golden linseed , kibbled rye , poppy seed , browm linseed , sunflower seed , chickpea flour , pearlbarley flakes .
 I make one just as is from the packet and one with added dried fruit and honey .
I also make bread from 'the breadmake bible' by Karen Saunders .
 Breadmakers are fantastic , and i will hate it when i go off system completely .   
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Rosemary on January 31, 2014, 08:23:47 pm
I love ours. Sometimes I forget and have to buy bread  :'( - it's horrible. Apart from the odd plain loaf and well-fired roll  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Padge on February 01, 2014, 07:52:04 am
We have 2  both Panasonic     can't fault them :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Min on February 01, 2014, 09:37:30 am
Yes,  you can. You just need a gluten free recipe and you can find one on the back of Doves Farm gluten free bread flour.

Great, I will look for it and try it.

I bought a teeny weeny gluten-free loaf yesterday to try for £4.20 and the best I can say is that toasted and with butter and baked beans on it was acceptable.
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 01, 2014, 11:33:52 pm
Yes, it's not like proper bread at all, is it?
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Post by: Daisys Mum on February 02, 2014, 07:57:38 am
Thank you for this thread, I have just ordered myself a bread maker, looking forward to some nice fresh bread now.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 02, 2014, 10:49:58 pm
 :thumbsup:  You'll love it.
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Daisys Mum on February 03, 2014, 07:38:58 am
:thumbsup:  You'll love it.


But....will my waistline  :roflanim:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: benandjerry on February 03, 2014, 08:16:06 pm
Trust me your waist line could be in danger.....  Slice all the bread and put it into the freezer less the amount of slices you need. :-J  Do not be tempted to cover in glorious, delicious, butter, melting on your warm slice of bread which as a 'treat' you have cut table thick.   :thinking: Slice it weigh it, think twice, think minute on the lips lifetime on the hips, rest into the freezer pronto!  :roflanim:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 03, 2014, 10:12:49 pm
So that's where I went wrong.  ;D
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Post by: benandjerry on February 04, 2014, 06:48:06 pm
So that's where I went wrong.  ;D



Lol ;D  Me to but I learnt the error of my bread making ways. ::) Sort of....

The bread maker challenge:
On a 2lb loaf how many slices can you get from it? And how?
E.g I can get 14 good slices with my electric knife, 10 assorted sizes slicing free hand :D And 25 wafer thin if I used the meat / bread slices (which are useless for sandwiches :roflanim:
What about you?

Tried to load a photograph as evidence, but the image is too large and no idea how to make it smaller. :eyelashes:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 04, 2014, 11:50:03 pm
So do you think 6 slices means they are too big?
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Post by: Fleecewife on February 05, 2014, 01:43:16 am
Definitely Panasonic for me too.  We've had ours for yonks and it's still going strong  :fc:   Previously had a Henry (Hinari) but it got a hole in its bucket.
I still have the old recipes but I use only 1/2 teasp salt and 1 teasp sugar per XL loaf.  What does the new recipe recommend for 21 oz flour?


I tempted fate when I wrote that.  My trusty ancient Panasonic presented us with a brick yesterday morning - the motor had gone.  My new one arrived today - amazing service from Co-op.  I got the Panasonic SD-ZB 2502 BXC which has diamond non-stick - woohoo 8)  and a stainless steel body - my last one was white.
I just put my first loaf to bake in it.........hope it turns out ok   :hungry:

It does include a recipe for gluten free bread although I make normal bread with 70% wholemeal flour/30% white or grainy.
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Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 05, 2014, 09:53:03 pm
It had to go at some time, FW. Glad you managed to get a replacement so quickly. How was the bread?
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Post by: Daisys Mum on February 06, 2014, 11:50:45 am



I tempted fate when I wrote that.  My trusty ancient Panasonic presented us with a brick yesterday morning - the motor had gone.  My new one arrived today - amazing service from Co-op.  I got the Panasonic SD-ZB 2502 BXC which has diamond non-stick - woohoo 8)  and a stainless steel body - my last one was white.
I just put my first loaf to bake in it.........hope it turns out ok   :hungry:

It does include a recipe for gluten free bread although I make normal bread with 70% wholemeal flour/30% white or grainy.


Mine hasn't arrived yet  :-\  But I think that's the same one, dying to get started, I suppose I could go out and buy the flour etc.
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Fleecewife on February 06, 2014, 02:38:42 pm
It had to go at some time, FW. Glad you managed to get a replacement so quickly. How was the bread?

Scrumpshlicious  :yum:  but incredibly tall.  Think I'll just revert to my old recipe amounts.  I can make some more tonight as we've eaten all that one (imagine a fat icon  ;D)  The hens and pet Soays did get their little share too.

Daisy's mum - hope yours arrives soon  :fc:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: benandjerry on February 06, 2014, 06:26:41 pm
Go and buy the flour, Daisy's mum  :)  Then your ready to rock and roll.  Plus the brand new packet of butter..... :yum:
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Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 06, 2014, 08:52:36 pm
Don't forget the yeast.
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Post by: Daisy on February 07, 2014, 10:49:22 pm
I think I must be the only person who doesn't like bread from the breadmaker, and yes it is a Panasonic
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Herdygirl on February 08, 2014, 06:34:31 am
Well after reading the beginning of this thread I have bought a Panasonic.  I have been up since half five waiting for it to come out!  I set the timer for 8am to make sure I was up (i sometimes have a lie in til 8 on a Saturday.  :innocent:
 
1 hour 27 mins to go  :fc: 
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Cactus Jack on February 08, 2014, 06:45:50 am
I think I must be the only person who doesn't like bread from the breadmaker, and yes it is a Panasonic

Oh no you're not. I really don't like bread from the bread maker either. I make all mine by hand. It's good excercise and tastes so much better and is less dense.
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Fleecewife on February 08, 2014, 11:42:51 am
Usually you need to play around with the proportions in the breadmaker a bit before settling on the best results.  The amount of water has to be measured very accurately, much more so than with handmade loaves.  I made my bread by hand for very many years but initially switched to a breadmaker because my house is too cold to find somewhere good to set it to rise.
I have also played around with the proportions of flours used and the make of the flour.  My current favourite is 70% Marriages wholemeal plus 30% Wessex six seeded.  The little bit of whiteish flour helps the texture, but it doesn't need to be as much as 30%.  I often replace an ounce of the white with Einkhorn which gives a nice nutty flavour - any more and the result is too dense.
Using 1/8 teasp of Vit C powder helps too, but not for the purist I suppose.



How's the loaf Herdygirl?
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: benandjerry on February 08, 2014, 11:53:18 am
Nothing beats the smell of bread baking when you wake up on a cold winter's morning.  :)  hey herdy girl???
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Daisys Mum on February 08, 2014, 01:49:02 pm
First loaf cooling now, have to say it doesn't look to impressive here's hoping it tastes ok!  :fc:
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Post by: suziequeue on February 08, 2014, 01:59:06 pm
I worked out that it costs us about 40p per loaf (including electricity). I usually put one on when I get back from work on Friday evening for the weekend and then slice that up and freeze it on Sunday evening before I leave for work for OH to have it as toast for the rest of the week.



CONFESSION: I never wash the tin…… no consequences yet  :fc: :excited:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Herdygirl on February 08, 2014, 05:15:29 pm
Ok
 
The first one has been eaten!   :yum:   just doing another one now .
 
I am another usual hand maker, that finds it hard to find a warm place for bread to rise in the winter, so will use this lovely, beautiful machine  :love: :love: :love: >> me stroking my new friend
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: cloddopper on February 08, 2014, 08:15:08 pm
OH bought a bread maker today and we have just had our first taste of warm bread with butter and jam. To die for !! I use to make by hand but now not able to with joint problems in my fingers. As some shop bought bread now has soya which I cannot have we decided on the bread maker. Wonderful.

  Yummy stuff ..watch the waist line grow .

We ended up hiding our bread maker away in the back of the corner of the corner cupboard under the work tops .. we rarely eat bread these days thankfully . But we do eat the odd bagel every now & then ....... you know those with the less fattening centres .  :roflanim:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Herdygirl on February 08, 2014, 08:37:53 pm
Clodopper what you like ! :-J
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Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 08, 2014, 09:49:36 pm
I probably ought to just eat the centres.  :(
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Post by: Q on February 08, 2014, 10:44:01 pm
I probably ought to just eat the centres.  :(
:roflanim:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: sabrina on February 14, 2014, 04:14:30 pm
Well, I have done the white and also the 70% brown which we both love. the fruit loaf is just lovely. I am being good and not eating any more than I used to. Once we found soya in shop bought bread that was the finish as I cannot have soya. I don't find it too dense at all.
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Post by: benandjerry on February 14, 2014, 05:55:05 pm
Fruit loaf is very good as well.  :)
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Post by: Daisys Mum on February 14, 2014, 07:36:29 pm
Haven't bought bread for a week now  :thumbsup:  Does anyone have the fruit loaf recipe as I fancy some of that! :excited:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Greenerlife on February 15, 2014, 10:13:53 am
Sabrina - one more tip...cut up or photocopy the users manual recipes and laminate them and leave next to the breadmaker!  You'll thank me  :eyelashes:  My old one was so grubby and torn, so when I bought my new one I learned my lesson.
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Castle Farm on February 15, 2014, 01:47:59 pm
I bought my OH a Panasonic for her birthday. She has made me a lovely set of tractor weights for my Case 695.
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: suziequeue on February 15, 2014, 03:00:51 pm
I bought my OH a Panasonic for her birthday. She has made me a lovely set of tractor weights for my Case 695.
:roflanim: :roflanim: :roflanim:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: benandjerry on February 19, 2014, 03:58:32 pm
Mixed Fruit Bread:
Large Loaf
Water 1 and 1/8 cup
Skimmed Milk Powder 2 and half tbsp
Butter 2 and half tbsp
sugar 1/4 cup
salt 1 and 1/4 tsp
strong white flour 3 cups
nutmeg 3/4 tsp
dry yeast 1 and 1/4 tsp
mixed fruit 1/2 cup **

Setting, you would have to check your machine instructions for something like 'speciality or cake' bake.
Notes:  **add the mixed fruit approximately 30 minutes into the cycle when the beeper goes off (otherwise the mixed fruit will get completely chopped up)
You may have to make a couple of duffer loafs until you work out the right setting. :o

Enjoy, warm with butter... yum yum :P
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Daisys Mum on February 20, 2014, 04:06:30 pm
Thanks for that, will give it a go this weekend
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: benandjerry on March 20, 2014, 12:21:59 pm
How is everybodies waist lines doing????? ;D Pizza tonight with dough from the bread maker.... yum yum
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Herdygirl on March 20, 2014, 09:48:56 pm
Waistline is holding it's own.   :thumbsup:
 
I haven't bought a loaf since I got it.
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Min on March 21, 2014, 09:29:15 am
Yes,  you can. You just need a gluten free recipe and you can find one on the back of Doves Farm gluten free bread flour.

I tried this and I was really pleased with the results. In fact, I tried some gluteny garlic bread the other day (to test whether it really made me ill - it did) and it was rubbish. The bread itself was tasteless and I found I don't like the texture any more. The gluten free bread with all its eggs and milk and oil is much more like actual food and not just calorific air. Very filling. I make a loaf, cut it up and freeze the slices to eat when I want. And it means I have got somewhere to put my marmalade.

Happy again! Thanks again for that ace tip  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bread
Post by: Lesley Silvester on March 21, 2014, 11:23:08 pm
You're welcome.  :D