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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: sandy on August 29, 2009, 09:54:46 pm
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(http://<a href="http://s651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/pryde/?action-view¤t=019-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/pryde/019-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>) We are going to breed with Islay when she is next in season all being well with her hop score, now we need to look for a bold, black lab from good working stock for her husband but we do not want to travel too far!!!!!
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Still not getting the photo thing!!!!! I will have another go...(http://<a href="http://s651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/pryde/?action-view¤t=031.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/pryde/th_031.jpg" border="0" alt="Islay" ></a>)
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Main reason for this post was to put a photo on and get a bit of practice...getting fed up now as I have missed most of the film..never mind...not too keen anyway!!
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Did you speak to the vet today about getting her x-rayed?
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Yes booked in for Monday, I will look at the kennel club for mates, just messing about trying to put photos on, sometimes they do not seem to work, I cannot understand as I understand IT but this baffles me...cannot get to my laptop as Steve has it in front of him and is watching a film.........no good photos of Isaly on the main computer....Beck has been inundated with people wanting her pups, sold them all, she could have sold more Lurcher's as hers is a particularly good/sort after strain.....
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No good looking at KC for stud dogs - best speak to Field Trial or working people on the ground if you want working strain. KC ones are show mostly. But if Islay is mostly show strain that's what you should go for. I'll have a look at her pedigree again sometime soon to try to find suitable dogs. Look at her parents/grandparents and give me their Kennel names and I'll look them up. The BVA/HD results take about a month to come through and she's not due in season for a while yet anyway.....
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Thanks, he must be handsome and a good provider... ;)
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What about her dowry?
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Thats a point, I hope theres a dog somewhere near, Beck and Edd have had to travel......must be a bit hit and miss for some dogs, I mean, they only usualy have one night stands!!!! The link to the kennel club is not on at the moment, I was going to look!
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http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/1252
Hmm, not sure they'd have a list of stud dogs anyway, but the website is there, it's not offline just now.
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George Greig, one of the vets at Cameron and Greig, in Tillicoultry and Milnathort is a super keen shooter / labrador man. He carries four around in his car on his rounds. Might be worth speaking to him, as he knows everyone "labradory".
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Thanks for that, we we get in touch, Islays dad was a Field Trial Champion and his owner also shoots and has several Labs, I see him around Gartmore with them. I look forward to having some pups, I will want to keep them ALL!!!
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I'll be at the vet tomorrow - I think it's Ian that's on so I'll ask about George's dogs and get his number for you. Going to get Belle's premate test done - hopefully mating her Tuesday, Wednesday
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How much time am I going to waist on photos? My laptop was not working properly at first and that was logged into photobucket, my main COmputor was working but not logged into photobucket and it would not send me a password reminder!!!! Anyway, here is Isaly, a really good, hard working,bold dog, away at the vets for her checks, fingers crossed puppies next year!!!! Ssame Ben is not in tact, he is a nice dog just poor markings with his bringle legs and white patch on his chest...cute though :D
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Pretty girl :) Do you stay in Gartmore Sandy? I know the area pretty well I have a self catering place in Drymen.
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We are in Clackmannan, we go around Gartmorn Dam for walks sometimes, so many nice walks, trouble is Ben my other Lab is only 1 and we have only had him 4 mths so do not fully trust him to come back "every" time, last time in Gartmorn he was just going to get in the car and decided to run off after some cattle, then some Swans, it took us ages to get him back!!!!
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Ahh so Gartmorn, not Gartmore LOL My two stay onlead unless in an area that's maximum security!!! They would run off and not come back at all, it's a breed trait. THat's the main reason we've bought our property, so they can eventually have the run of a 2 acre paddock :)
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That's why I was looking for a place with land too but it's like hens teeth in Central Scotland. My breed is fast and furious - much more so than Labs. An acre isn't bad but mine take off like bullets and skim it in seconds. It's like the wall of death if you get in the way. Steve was looking a little concerned when he and Sandy were here today. (forgot to give you jam, Sandy, will pop round with it sometime)
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Hahahaa sounds just like my two LOL Mine go from a-b and take out anything inbetween without even noticing, it's not the first time I've ended up on my butt in the wake of a big hairy monster heheheee
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What kind do you have?
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Chows.... :)
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My late partner used to help his Aunt with her Chows. I remember he told me he had gone to Crufts with her one year - I think he was about 13 at the time so that would have been in 1954
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Do you all use Cameron and Greig's as a vet? I didn't realise their influence had spread as far as your way! George is great but so pessimistic- if we ever got him to see a sick goat he'd always tell us it was going to die!
Beth
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Yes, I do - Ian is at Tilly/Marchglen most of the time, and their locum, Albert, is super too.
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I've known both of them most of my life- Ian's son was in the year below me at school, and their daughter is a couple of years younger.
Small world!
Beth
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Hip score is back and just above the breed average, it was 17, a higher score than I would have lked but the vet was OK with it, we now shall look for a male with a very low hip score, the search begins!!
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That's not bad, I think the breed average is 11. Good news.
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Got a nice young male gundog lined up, hopefuly going to have a visit at the weekend to see if he is OK, not far away so can visit more than the once to check if he is suitable etc. Fingers crossed and our lovely dog will have pups, we will keep a female anyway!!! watch this space. Doganjo, when are your pups due?
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He is a stunning Gun Dog and the owner looked at Islay and thought she was a good looking dog as well as commenting on her Pedigree as some of her ancestors belonging to the Gamekeeper at Gleneagles!!!! so, we should get some lovely pups!!!! Nice place as well, wish we could afford to send our dogs to be trained with him!!!!
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Islay seemingly enjoyed her self with her new love, especialy after a practice run with our other castrated male.....well,she can have one more visit on Sunday!!!!!
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lol
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Come on, Sandy! Be sensible - no love in this - it was
'Grrr, get off'
'Grrr Grrr Effing get off'
'Ahem, what are you licking me there for'
'Hmmm, well maybe I could JUST get to like that'
'oh, well, OK then'
Then 20 minutes for us hanging around in a cold wind till she let him go.
Gestation is 63 days. So 24th December is due date.
Christmas day won't be the same for you this year. No trips down South, watching her every move, waiting to see if she needs any help, should we phone the vet or not, should we phone Annie or not.
Will givwe you a check list lol ;D ;D ;D
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:o ??? ::) :P :) ;) :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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If she's a day late, will you call one Jesus?
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If she has 11 I'm sure he will be mentioned ;) ;D ;D
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;D ;D guess we will miss Santa this year!!! ;D
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No you won't - that's what Santa is bringing you this year. ;) A s^*t load of black trouble! ;D ;D ;D ;D Only joking - you'll waste a lot of time watching them and for the first 2 or 3 weeks they will be no trouble at all. After that when they're weaned it will be smelly messy pups till they go to their new homes.
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Maybe I should put on my christmas list some detol and some bedding!!!!
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Nope, just loads of newspapers and vet bed ;D
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Fingers crossed we get the name for Isalys pups that we want!!! Next to choose a name for hopefully a female pup.....I have a list but want some more inspirtation !!!!!! I want idealy names from Lord of the Rings, love Hobbit, Pippin, Frodo and Gandolf but the female names are not so good Gladriel Freda and Eowyn are a bit long winded I think although I love
ArowenArwen..anyone other ideas???
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Does thsi help - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077869/fullcredits
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looked at lot's of Lord of the ring sites already and looked at the Ochils and other places in Scotland...liked Rhum Iona and Tiree and I liked Kilda, Lommond and Nessie...and I looked at Fairy names, Nania names etc still, I shall see what pops into our heads. When we went to buy out Patterdale we had a list of male names but as soon as we saw him he was Billy!!!
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as soon as we saw him he was Billy!!
That's fine for their pet names - I kind of do the same. But for their KC registration it's a bit more difficult. I like a theme for mine too and until now they have all been Scottish hills and mountains - but how many are there beginning with 'E' Any suggestions?
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Everest!!! not quite what you ment? I suppose I shall take a look at the map, if you put up a post I'm sure you will get loads of names...I may do that, I intend to find a pet name that can also be a kennel name as it should go with the kennel name.....fun choosing though!!
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Everest!!! not quite what you meant? I suppose I shall take a look at the map, if you put up a post I'm sure you will get loads of names...I may do that, I intend to find a pet name that can also be a kennel name as it should go with the kennel name.....fun choosing though!!
Yes, that is what I meant, and Everest is one of the names I checked on the KC website - it is someone's Affix. I have also tried Eiger, Etna - they also tell you if they are suitable for your breed or not. The KC is very fussy! I think there is one Scottish hill beginning with 'E' My pups will be called Aberdon E- - - - -, and some people might try to tie up their pet name with the kennel one. I usually try, but Freckles was just covered in little brown dots so I had no option when she was born, and that was the S year so she was registered as Aberdon Sgurr Mhairi
Name check here - http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/services/public/registrations/namecheck/Default.aspx
Here is a link to the guide to applying for a Kennel Affix http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/documents/guide/kennelNameGuideNotes.pdf
although you've probably got that sorted by now. Might be useful for someone else.
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I rang to take Islay for a scan but have to go on Sunday as we have a guest arriving tonight and I am not sure if Steve will be back from work in time!!!! I had fun looking at a site wtih some stunning photos of Scottish Hills and Mountains but the comutor froze before I could cut and paste!!!! Good luck trawling!!!! I wounder what name the Kennel Club will choose, well I like all the ones I put down....fingers crossed!!! Now must get Breakfast ready for out Lady guest.
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Is this the first litter you have had Sandy?
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First litter and we found she id due to have at least 10 puppies!!!!! BIG ONES!!!!1
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Big ones, oh dear. Sometimes with a big litter the back puppies push forward in labour and that makes it easier. What you dont need is the biggest pup to come first.
I hope you didnt feed Mum any more than she normally has.
How many weeks prgnant is she now?
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Big ones, oh dear. I hope you didnt feed Mum any more than she normally has.
How many weeks prgnant is she now?
She MUST be fed higher protein food. She needs smaller meals and more often - 4 meals a day. My bitches always go on to puppy food as soon as I confirm they are pregnant. Islay is due to whelp Christmas eve but I suspect she may whelp a couple of days early. Any earlier than 6 days before due date and the pups may not be viable.
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I never feed anymore than is normal for the bitch, the pups take what they need from mum. Food get piled into the bitch after she has whelped.
I have seen too many owners overfeed their bitches and end up have c sections because of big pups.
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We have been feeding her higher protien and better quality food, I bought some cheap cod and I make one meal with some of the cod and another meal with some scraambled duck eggs.....she is full of life, going on on walks but we are also being careful...she has a farosiouse yet fussy appitite and looking to "nest" upstairs inour guests bedroom....not really ideal...Next week I shall get her used to where she will have her pups...off with our shopping list...bottles..milk...kitchen rolls....puppy food....heat lamp....heat pads......eeerrrrrrrrrrrrr????
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Isaly is just over 5 weeks pregant, another 4 to go fingers crossed. She is a very good dog and we will keep one female pups...we already have a name for her....and fingers crossed, the kennel club will agree to my new breader name....???I will let you al know when I know!!
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Good luck Sandy, ;D I hope all goes well.
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I hope she whelps before Christmas Eve, I don't fancy being Santa and delivering puppies instead of parcels ;D ;D ;D
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All those stockings to fill!!!!! I know we have some guests booked...hope they can do without sleep or breakfast!!!
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I love the sense of peace and accomplishment when the bitch has whelped and she is tucked up in the whelping box with suckling puppies around her. The puppy smell is wonderful and like no other smell. Their breaths smell rather like weetabix after a few days.
The room is warm and semi dark and the only noise you can hear is snuffling as the pups jocky for the best teats (the back 4) and contented sighs from mum and me
Many a time I have slept on the floor in a sleeping bag alongside the whelping box with its anti pup front off and holding my bitches paw throughout the night. ;D
Actually that would be the perfect Christmas eve for me.
PS I had one bitch (Kerris, my favourite of all time) that wouldnt sleep in her whelping box without me sleepng in there with her and the pups, which was fine when they were a few days old but sure as hell not so nice when they were weaning.
Ill tell you some things as to why Kerris was so special.
When my daughter brought home a kitten who was way too young to lap Kerris produced milk and suckled the kitten for 3 weeks. She cleaned the kitten as though he was a pup and till the day she died the cat thought Kerris was his mum. The cat thinks hes a dog so now sleeps tucked up with my german sheps.
When Kerris's daughter had her first litter she didnt want to know the pups for 5 days and I was tearing my hair out cos without mum its hard to keep pups alive, anyway as a last resort I brought in to the whelping room Kerris who took who look and gingerly (she thought I was going to tell her off as they werent her pups) stepped into the whelping box and within 24 hours had produce milk and was suckling the pups. Everyday I brought into the room Kerris's daughter (puppies mum) and after 5 days she growled at Kerris to get out, so she did and mum carried on from there.
I used to deliver charity envelopes around and walk 2 bitches at the same time and one day whilst walking up a path to a house Kerris crouched low, her nose disapeared as she curled her lips and growled low and long. She dug in her feet and wouldnt go up the path so I turned around and didnt deliver the envelope to that house.
Five months later there was a report that the guy who lived in that house had kidnapped a woman and kept her a prisoner for 2 weeks at the house!!!
Whilst a friend was visiting her child ran into the road outside my house, Kerris must have heard a car coming and rushed through my legs and knocked the child over and out of the path of the car.
Kerris often came with me to give lectures to kids (Brownies, scouts etc) on the care of animals. She was a favourite at a Special school we used to go to and enjoyed the kids stroking her. Once we were called in specially because there was one little girl in particular who was in a wheelchair and she was very depressed. She couldnt move her hands very much so she couldnt stroke Kerris.
I wondered if just looking at Kerris would be enough help for her but Kerris had a better idea, she sat sideways to the wheelchair and nudged the girls hand untill it was, firstly on her muzzle then on her head!!!
The huge grins from both Kerris and the little girl was wonderfull to see, the adults in the room, (including me) has tears in our eyes.
And finally Kerris could dance!!
I didnt teach her to dance but she did. She danced with me up and down the front room (or scout hall etc) she danced on her own when she thought no one was looking and the stereo was on loud. She danced in the garden when we were invited to BBQ's and took her.
She was amazing! I had never had a bitch like her before and never expect one like her again. I loved her dearly.
Oh and it was a Kerris daughter that was the first ever golden retriever for Dogs for the Disabled. She helped a lady with MS.
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Very moving, us humans have such a very special relationship with dogs..I can't Waite.
We have castrated male lab called Ben as well as Isaly. We got him when we had to have our mungrel put to sleep, we prefer to have more than one dog as we have plenty of room.
Ben is a strong 1 year old Black Labrador and is very intelligent, far too intelligent for my liking, sometimes, when you are out walking, he chooses to come back when he is ready, he knows you want him and gives you that look at the corner of his eye and wonders off, a bit too far from me to catch him. He is OK sometimes, depends on what and where he is. He also hates to be "told off" if you sound remotely angry, he teases you by hidding and bouncing around...we have a B&B and sometimes we have guests on nights so sleeping in the day...If Ben gets a chance he will blunder his way upstairs and run around, one day it took me ages to get him down as he was prancing and teasing me...but I love him...he also sucks a blanket!!!!
Anyway, back to whelping. I am fairly confident and will have to whelp Isaly in our Kitchen as its the best room, not ideal for a B&B but I hope to keep one side of the kitchen a bit free. I too think it will be a great Christmas present, we shall not be watching TV, that is unless we move the pups and Isaly into our lounge and have her with us in front of a big log fire.......so exciting!!!!
P.S You help and advise will be greatly appreciated!!!!!
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I would only take Ben out on an extending lead untill he comes to command. Recall is the most important command to teach as it could save his life one day.
Never get angry if he doesnt come back just turn 360 and slowly walk away from the dog. As you are the only person he knows he will follow you, when he comes to you titbit him and fuss him. You have 3 seconds to do that after that they dont know what the praise is for.
Try practising in the garden with the lead and titbit and if he is clever it wont take long.
If Ben does something you dont like turn away from him and ignore him, this is a throwback from being in a pack and to be outside the pack is dangerous for the dog.
Remember you are pack leader.
Do you know the signs for imminent labour?
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My neighbour and friend Anne,doganjoe is a well seasoned dog breeder and has given me some advice. I had dogs when I was growing up and they had pups on several occasions so I have see the nesting and going off food etc.
Bens recall is good and he flys back but then, if he either gets the smell of something (he loves collecting hedghogs) or if he finds something to eat, usualy some form of poo, you cannot seem to budge him, but he also dose come back. I always walk off and ignore him, that used to work with the dog that has been put to sleep now, he used to take his ball just out of reach and not let you get to it. Anyway, the last time Ben went off I saw him watch me, it was just as we were nearing the car so I suspect as we bought him from a young family, his walks were brief and he went in the car, so that signifies the end of the walk. I got into the car after calling him and drove to the next parking bay although I was also concerned the road was near. By the time I returned to where I was originaly parked, he was there, and jumped back into the car. this theroy is backed up as when I go out with my OH and no car, he comes back every time!!!!
I know it's the car thing and I want the chance to take him out, then back to the car and not get in to finnish the walk......I also always have some tasty treat and say good boy, Isaly has always been great from day 1, so was my last dog.....Anyway, I shall have a go again when I am a bit more confident...he has knocked me off my feet twice!!!!
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Sounds fun with Ben ;D
The most reliable indication of labour is that the bitches temp drops by 1 degree.
Im sorry if Im teaching granny to suck eggs here.
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No, I need to learn ;D ;D, I like a lot of advice and am thankful I have this forum, bestest source for good advice on anything!!!! I loved going for walks with Isaly and Bruce, they always came back instantly and I would talk to them and they listened. Ben listens to me, and as I said, he is intelligent, I think thats the problem, he reads me too well!!!!!! He is also a bit clumbsy and barges by, a dominant trait, I think its due to his start in life, he lived in a small house with 2 tiny tots, sat watching TV all day and only went for short walks. If he sees a baby wipe or plastic bag he gets really excited...he pulls tissues out of my pocket if given the opportunity. He loves children but is far too rough and would knock them down but he is not at all aggressive with other dogs, whereas Isaly is very gentle and has excellent recall but can be VERY aggressive with other dogs, she bit Ben's ear when he tried to pinch her bone!!!!!! All help appreciated.....
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Sandy if you are fed up with me Ill back off.
With Ben is he clumsy or dominant when he barges past you? cos they are different and need different training.
If Ben is free running and comes back at you like an express train you just turn sideways to him, dont take a step as you could be stepping into his path not out of it.
So then so far Islay is Bens boss and Ben is your boss? Or he thinks he is and is pushing for it.
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Ben is a dominant dog but Islay is the boss in the pack, he is frightened of her!!! I am sure he was castrated at about 6-9mths old as he was far too dominant although I felt the owners let him be dominant. My OH has been very very strict with him, he knows I am a lot softer and thats half the problem although I understand the principles. He has not barged into me for some time but he did run straight into the back of my legs and often brushes the side of my legs and as he is very strong, it can soon knock you down...he walks OK but has to be checked for pulling from time to time and that stops me taking him out on the lead too as if he pulls sudenly, I will be over. Ben is als a bit clumsy but definatley dominant, the only conselation is he will be a bit lazy as he gets older......
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Don't worry, Jackie. I see Sandy most days and will keep an eye on things. I have a digital thermometer she can have. I am 5 minutes away. Your input is always welcome as you have so much more experience than myself. Perhaps you have a check-list we can use?
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Thanks, I feel so humble (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/bowing-036.gif), all this attention from the experts, I should be paying for that privilege.......
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Don't worry, my friend - vee huv vays uv making you pay (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Drinks/drinking-41.GIF)(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Drinks/party-drunk.gif)
You SHARE that port next time ;D ;D ;D
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Good luck ;D
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Just to say, I have now made it very cosy in the kitchen, we can section a bit off if necessay but as I still have an old fashioned serving hatch I can also put my web camera through and watch her on movement sensitive setting, we can also hear her, we just need a heat pad, and some droppers (not sure what they are called) and some clamps for the umbilical cords...anything else? I shall also watch a few more welping videos. Isay watches me all the time, she sits next to me until she is put to bed and just watches!!! I keep telling her it was Aunty Anne and Stephen that took her to be mated ;D Oh and she is now staying in at night, Ben loves that!!!!
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Don't you blame me! I was just the driver! ;D ;D
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Well Isaly watches my every move!!!
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Islay is getting more like a little pig to look at now, her teats are enourmouse!!!!!! I have just recieved confirmation of our Kennel club name, as I love Lord of the rings and the sire was from Mordor I decided to go for something connecting Lord of the RIngs with Clackmannanshire and came up with WEESHIRES!! and that is what they have agreed to, I am thrilled as all the pups will have names from Lord of the rings hopefully, the bitch we hope to keep will be Rohan, also a name place from Lord of the rings as well as a tree and the name on my OH trousers!!;D ;D ;D Also just ordered some welping stuff so we are very nearly ready for an invasion of Black Labradors!!!!
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Also just ordered some welping stuff s
What have you ordered? I have some stuff for you here
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All sorts..such as one of the bulb pipets, some pads, some coloured ties, clamp, etc etc....just need a heat pad....we are making it cosy in the kitchen but when the pups get a bit older...4 weeks, they will go to the dog room, got to give that a sort out and insulate it more although will shall put the heat pad in there as there is electric.
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Maybe watch putting a heat pad in with older puppies - from 4 weeks on they are chewing things like crazy.
What is the bulb pipette for? I got you some baby feeding bottles if it's for top up feeding. I don't tie the cords, best the bitch does it, so I don't use a clamp, but I know Liz does. Pads I guess are to help train the puppies to wee on there instead of their beds? I use newspaper but the pads are impregnated with something to encourage them I think. I believe they work quite well.
What are the coloured ties for?
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THe bulb pipet is for clearing any nose or mouths, as she is having a lot of puppies she may need some help clearing their mouths and noses, better safe than sorry, we intend to have pups again so I need most of the kit.
The pads are for her to have her pups on, they are more absorbant than newspaper, I don't intend to use them for the pupies when they are older, just the first weeks/days in the box. The ties and for me to monitor them...anyway, I am happy with the stuff I have, I like to be prepared.
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Just didn't occur to me you'd need some way to identify them! They'll all be black!!! Duh!!!
I must admit I've never had a problem clearing mucus if they are born naturally, but you are right, better safe than sorry. What you will need is pieces of towelling to hold the pups as they are born because they are very slippery. Remember to count the placentas, and if she has 10 or 11, don't let her eat them all or she will have diarrhoea for weeks. ;D ;D ;D She will need some of them though for instant energy. I expect Beccy will keep you right as she has bred quite a lot
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I thought I may need forcepts to help her out and then save her from eating all the placentas!! I have loads of old towels and shall have them ready for our long night!!!! we are half excited and half anxiouse, they are going to be very noisy, a lot of poo's and wee wee's.....I think I shall make up some milk to help out, the idea is to pick one put at a time and give it a top up feed.....poor Islay, what a handful for her. I intend to put the heat pad firstly in the kitchen and then in the dog room but I shall cover it well and thread the cable through the cadge which I will enclose with cardboard......I need to clean out that room as it is a bit of a mess!!!
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Use goats milk, unless you can get special formula for puppies (?!) Its easily absorbed, less lactose and less fat and is brilliant for all kinds of babies...
Bet you can't wait, good luck to Isaly and you
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Thanks, I shall stock up on that, I suppose it freezes OK like cows milk? Isaly cannot tollerate milk, if she has any food with milk in/on it, she is quite sick, all other food is fine with her.....she is on puppy food now and I also give her either scrambled duck eggs with her food or some cod or sardines!!!!! I feel sorry for her having so many pups, we shall certainly be entertained and I just hope we don't get bookings, we already have 2 guests for over the Christmas period but they eat at work as they are out at 6.30am......anyway, nearly ready, need loads more newspapers and some more paper towels and the old disinfectant for the floors!!!!
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pick one put at a time and give it a top up feed..
She must suckle them first to give them colostrum, so don't feed them as soon as they are born!
Don't buy goats milk or puppy formula - I have quite a lot in my freezer and my pups are past the milk stage, and I'm sure Beth can give us more if needed. It freezes better than cows milk.
If there is a need for forceps it's time for the vet. Don't hesitate to call him out if you or worried - better that than lose pups or worse still Islay. I'll be on call too if you need me.
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;D ;Dwrong word...I did not mean forceps I meant a clamp if I have to cut a cord or is Isaly is too enthusiastic...no way would I use forceps...silly me!!!
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I haven't looked at this thread for ages. What a laugh! Reminds me of when I was expecting Lorna and making lists from the Mothercare catalogue - I was stressing over whether to buy 50 cottonbuds or 100 and her Dad asked what I was going to use them for. I confessed I didn't know but if they were in the catalogue, I must need them for something. He suggested I only buy 50 meantime. We just finished them and Lorna's 17. ;D
A friend of ours ahd pups from her Labrador - all black. She marked them with tippex on a part of their body and that became their name. FLora had tippex on her Front Left shoulder. Can't remember the rest, though.
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I remember those day's, those big white colars and bows, what was that all about?
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What white collars and bows? I don't remember them. You must be older than me (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/drunk-irish-048.gif)
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My children are older than Rosemary's, my eldest 35 now ::) but I came from the puritan eara....no one told you where babies came from but we all wore navy big dresses with either white colars or big bows on the neck to make us look "pure" ;)
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i didn't have big bows on my dresses or white collars. ;D ;D
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You must have shopped at posher shops than me...I had about 3 dresses I plain green tent and about 2 navy andfor my last pregnancy a wounderfull tartan full length pinafore dress that worked for the first few months with my youngest 30 years ago...I "made" tartan pinafores for both my elder 2 daughters, ;D dare not touch a sewing machine now!!!
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Islay needs some bra's me thinks ;)
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Hi Sandy
thanks for the heads up about the forum, love the pics and have read the puppies' story so far :) Will post a proper introduction to all ;D
Nicola
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Hi Molly, not been on here much today as I am taking down the hords of decorations I put up...never ending and then of course the cleaning after. The pups are getting little chubs!!! there eyes are open and they are wobbling around, they will be 3 weeks on thursday!!!! I am getting a puppy pen and I missed the delivery as they will need room to move around. Later, I shall put some photos but have been busy, one of our guests wants one and he was sitting with us for ages last night, nearly missed the E Mail.....I will keep every one posted and hope to get some good photos..!!