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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: Alistair on October 18, 2013, 11:32:08 am
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As we have quite a few breeders, show dog owners and agility dog owners etc on here I have put this a sticky at the top of the board (I'll delete this bit once it gets going) - hope you think it's useful and makes sense.
The purpose of this thread is to identify current health issues pertinent to dog owners that members have become aware of and feel is of use to other members, please can you
Post any current issues you feel we need to be aware of
Self manage those posts, so if the issue has died down or gone away remove the post
Please note, this is not meant to be a discussion thread, if you want to discuss it start a new thread, the idea being to keep the serious stuff serious, as the original poster, if anything comes up in discussion please feel free to modify your original post.
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Best place to start is here -
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/media/9846/abshealthreqs.pdf (http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/media/9846/abshealthreqs.pdf)
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Obviously no-one on here is interested in the health of their dogs or any they produce by breeding!
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Why ???????? ???
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I found the Kennel Club invaluable for finding out what health issues my breed of dog could have and what health tests that she needed to have before deciding whether or not to breed from her. Those tests also with her breed standard was what be based the fact on with regard to her just recently having a litter.
The Kennel Club also has a list of who carries out the tests etc. for example Vets who take xrays for hip or elbow scoring.
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Yes, I used it before buying my last 2 pups.
Think most people on here are interested. ??? ..... just not many current health issues affecting us directly at the moment.
Isn't this for posting about disease problems too eg kennel cough outbreaks ?
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Yes, I used it before buying my last 2 pups.
Think most people on here are interested. ??? ..... just not many current health issues affecting us directly at the moment.
Isn't this for posting about disease problems too eg kennel cough outbreaks ?
There is Kennel Cough and Parvo in some areas - nothing been mentioned since this was started mid October, that's why I thought no-one was interested. If a thread is not kept live it drops off the radar
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Took Murphy for his annual booster last week and the vet told me that they are now using a new annual vaccine for dogs that spend any amount of time near farms or waterways. She said that we have a terrible rise in the cases of Lungworm and that she's seen many dogs in ITU as a result.
We have switched to the new drug (apologies but I dont' have the name to hand) and its just £12 a year and offers the necessary protection.
This link is from the USA but gives some useful info - where it says raccoons are carriers, switch to 'rats' to make relevant to here ;D [urlhttp://www.vetinfo.com/lungworm-in-dogs.html][/url]
Not sure if I've put this in the right section as worried it might get missed? does it need to go in the main 'dogs' area as a new thread?
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Another report on mystery illnesses -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25820926 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25820926)
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something more to worry about.
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Just as a matter of interest, has anyone had a problem after their puppy received their injections. Our Jack Russell no longer gets his boosters as he became very ill after his last one . Now Jake was one of 4 puppies, he is the only one still living. The other 3 died after there first injections and no reason was ever found. Jake was fine thank goodness. Every dog we have ever had has been fine with injections and I just wondered has anyone else come across this. My vet says its very rare.
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Just found this Sabrina.
When we moved in we ended up taking on the cat that belonged to the previous owners of the property. They moved over 4 miles away and didn't keep her in so she kept returning. Anyway .... ours now.
She was neutered but had never been vaccinated. The vet gave her the first dose in the course but she was very ill for a few days afterwards. We were really worried. She appeared really quite ill and the vet could find no obvious cause. She did recover after a few days but we didn't have the second injection since the vet could not guarantee that it wasn't a reaction of some kind to the vaccine and we read that the reaction after a second dose could be more severe. Vet did say that if it was a reaction it was rare.
She is a "senior" cat and though I know there is a risk of her contracting something, we hope she has built up immunity.
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Just as a matter of interest, has anyone had a problem after their puppy received their injections. Our Jack Russell no longer gets his boosters as he became very ill after his last one . Now Jake was one of 4 puppies, he is the only one still living. The other 3 died after there first injections and no reason was ever found. Jake was fine thank goodness. Every dog we have ever had has been fine with injections and I just wondered has anyone else come across this. My vet says its very rare.
I had a pug that reacted badly to his puppy inoculations after his first on he was very low, wouldn't eat and was panting all of the time.This went on for 2 days . After his second one he started fitting within 30 mins of having it and ended up in the vets for 5 days on a drip. It was touch and go
After that he never took another fit. 1 year later when his booster was due we talked to the vets and they said to take him in and they would monitor him. again he started fitting so he never had another booster and never again had a fit
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Lots of notices in our vets about lungworm becoming a serious problem - years ago it was hardly ever mentioned. Please be aware. Only known one working dog with it and she was pts pdq (pretty damn quick :( ).
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Lots of notices in our vets about lungworm becoming a serious problem - years ago it was hardly ever mentioned. Please be aware. Only known one working dog with it and she was pts pdq (pretty damn quick :( ).
I have heard a lot about this too and seem to have a lot of slugs (carriers) around at the moment. My problem is that the treatments which do fleas and lungworm do not do ticks, and the ticks are really bad at the moment. Do you know of any preventatives which do ticks and lungworm? I do not like using so many chemicals and having to double up these treatments isn't my ideal.
What does everyone else do?
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I use Advocate - it is a broad spectrum combination treatment, effective against fleas, flea larvae, roundworms, hookworms, whipworms, heartworms and Sarcoptic mange, ear and Demodex mites.
It seems to deter ticks although it doesn't say that - but I use a tom tick remover if I see any.
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Lots of notices in our vets about lungworm becoming a serious problem - years ago it was hardly ever mentioned. Please be aware. Only known one working dog with it and she was pts pdq (pretty damn quick :( ).
Just got back from the vets having had boosters done on mine, wormed them last week with stuff I got from pets at home, vet has told me that next time to get the stuff from her as the one she prescribes actually prevents lungworms to, but it's prescription only, she told me the name of it but I forgot it almost immediately, the ones from pet shops don't apparently do anything with lungworms
Ditto on advocate, used frontline last time and dogs still had fleas, so this time washed them all with vetzyme shampoo, which is insecticidal, then used advocate, all gone now
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I thought snails carried lungworm? It is a certain type of snail though.
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are you confusing lungworm and fluke?
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Dog lungworm are carried by certain slugs and snails.
Check out the BAYER website, it gives lots of really useful information about the parasites - fleas, ticks, mites, worms, and details of what the products cover.
Advocate definitely will help for lungworm prevention, and treats roundworms, mites and fleas. It's not licensed for ticks, but potentially will have some effect.
My dogs get SERESTO collars from Bayer which kill and repel ticks - my long haired German Shepherd only got one tick in the whole of his holidays in Mull, running around in the bracken!
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Apologies if I am telling anyone anything they know :)
CSJ do a herbal mix (or a liquid from myitchydog) called Billy No Mates ( ;D ) which is full of things like lemon balm to deter beasties. I am not in a high tick area, but I do take my dogs to work with me (vet hosp) and since using it, I've had no lodgers, whereas they'd occasionally pick up fleas from work. I use it instead of flea and tick treatment in my dogs, but it would be pretty good to use for fleas and then use chemicals for ticks if you were in a high tick area.
I have collies so using any of the ivermectin family makes me a bit leary due to their being a risk of MDR1 genes.
(Advocate is a cousin and is thought to be safe, but with any dog that is MDR1 positive there is still a risk)
MDR1 is a gene found in some breeds and their crosses (http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vcpl/breeds.aspx (http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vcpl/breeds.aspx)) where they have a gene that causes reactions to drugs that are normally safe in other breeds
With Border Collies, the risk is low, but essential for Shelties and other herding breeds but the test for it is a simple cheek swab or blood test : http://www.laboklin.co.uk/laboklin/showGeneticTest.jsp?testID=8032 (http://www.laboklin.co.uk/laboklin/showGeneticTest.jsp?testID=8032)
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I have a situation where the livery next door keeps infesting my horses with lice (I wish someone would teach them how to look after animals)!
How about giving them some medication to try saying something like - "I notice you seem to have the same problem as I had with my horses and wondered if you'd tried this" :innocent: