The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: WannaBeFarmerJoe on September 12, 2013, 10:21:11 am
-
Hello all, this is my last ditch attempt to raise the funds to buy just over an acre of land pretty much behind were me and my wife are living so don't try to laugh to much http://www.gofundme.com/smallholding-dream (http://www.gofundme.com/smallholding-dream) :wave:
-
Thanks :)
I currently have six pure light sussex hens and I would love to expand by becoming a pure bred breeder my ideal breed list would be
light sussex
silver sussex
white sussex
red sussex
norfolk grey
and maybe a few others if there is room :)
Then I would like to grow as much feed for them as I can and mill it all down, thats phase one of my dream then I would look at getting some saddleback weaners :)
-
Easy to work out how much feed you need and how much ground you need to grow it , 1 sq yd of wheat , barley , oats or rye , will give you appx 1lb of seed/grain .
Many variables in that , soil , weather , seed variety , and many others , but 1lb per sq yd works out about right .
An old Bamford type roller mill will do the job of preparing the grain , ( take great care when grinding the grain , lots of dust is produced and if you breath it in you may end up with farmers lung , it isn't very nice . Guess how i know ?) .
Good luck .
-
Easy to work out how much feed you need and how much ground you need to grow it , 1 sq yd of wheat , barley , oats or rye , will give you appx 1lb of seed/grain .
Many variables in that , soil , weather , seed variety , and many others , but 1lb per sq yd works out about right .
An old Bamford type roller mill will do the job of preparing the grain , ( take great care when grinding the grain , lots of dust is produced and if you breath it in you may end up with farmers lung , it isn't very nice . Guess how i know ?) .
Good luck .
Ive been looking on the net for a while to work out how much land is needed per lb thanks much appreciated, currently on the look out for a good mill so if you hear about any coming up please let me know.
-
If you have the energy to work that hard when you get the land then go out get a part time job and earn the 7K like everybody else. :roflanim:
7K for a single acre now that b cheap you can b sure that ain't in Devon :'(
-
I cant see myself quitting a full time job to go and get a part time one
-
Good luck!
-
good luck, keep trying and you will get there in the end.
-
thank you all for the support, one day hopefully :)
-
I cant see myself quitting a full time job to go and get a part time one
I didn't mean instead I mean't as well
-
I cant see myself quitting a full time job to go and get a part time one
I didn't mean instead I mean't as well
a part-time job on minimum wage isnt far off £7k. go for it.
-
I cant see myself quitting a full time job to go and get a part time one
I didn't mean instead I mean't as well
a part-time job on minimum wage isnt far off £7k. go for it.
Well said shygirl
-
I found myself quite annoyed that it was being suggested I fund this lifestyle choice.... and I really an a soft touch.
The "oh, we want some land stranger will you give us some money" is somehow annoying in its cheekiness. There is no need here, just want.
It is easy to ignore, unlike the other people who bombard me with requests blind dog rescue uk.... who bombard me with pictures of dogs blinded and crippled by humans, each of whom has an individual fund..... my paypal account is taking a pounding!
-
the slight problem everyone on here is skint as the animals/vets have scoffed all the money :roflanim: :roflanim:
-
I know its my own little 'hobby horse' but I don't know why people are so fixated on buying land etc.
I have/had very little money compared to most - I will never be able to afford to buy my own house (although if I keep going the way I am....), I certainly could never afford to buy land.
I looked into the options for livestock businesses and plumped for sheep (I had a few as a hobby anyway) - startup costs are minimal: Stock, trailer, handling kit, dog.
Fisrt year in business proper 2011/2012, still managed to pay my overheads in spite of it being, well...2012 and retain 70 ewe lambs for flock expansion, this year looks like I will break even and pay myself a few thousand and fund further expansion. Next year projected income almost as much as my wife (a secretary) gets full time from a part-time sheep enterprise.
There are options to make a living at farming, you just have to (as much as I hate the phrase) think outside the box.
(Having now typed that, I fully expect all my sheep to die/lamb prices to crash etc etc :innocent: )
-
To be honest if your finances wont allow you to borrow £7K (and you say you are working fulltime) then you really can't afford to 'farm' it either.
Just in case there are any rich smallholders on here though :innocent: ....we are looking for a tractor!! ....
...... good point SteveHants
-
I found myself quite annoyed that it was being suggested I fund this lifestyle choice.... and I really an a soft touch.
The "oh, we want some land stranger will you give us some money" is somehow annoying in its cheekiness. There is no need here, just want.
It is easy to ignore, unlike the other people who bombard me with requests blind dog rescue uk.... who bombard me with pictures of dogs blinded and crippled by humans, each of whom has an individual fund..... my paypal account is taking a pounding!
I'm with kitchen cottage here - you can take out a mortgage, rent land or ask to pay by instalments - but begging from others, who have to do the work to earn their own livings ??? is certainly not my way. Try some rich City gents with money to burn :roflanim:
-
I'm with kitchen cottage here - you can take out a mortgage, rent land or ask to pay by instalments - but begging from others, who have to do the work to earn their own livings ??? is certainly not my way. Try some rich City gents with money to burn :roflanim:
Thats the way investment or 'Business Angels' or whatever would work, so I can't see any problem with it per se, but all of these people expect a return on their investment, so I'd want to know what I was getting back....
-
Exactly what I was thinking. We pay for someone else to own land? No one paid for me to buy my house and I wouldn't expect them to. I would love a field for my goats and for other livestock but accept it's not going to happen.
-
Exactly what I was thinking. We pay for someone else to own land? No one paid for me to buy my house and I wouldn't expect them to. I would love a field for my goats and for other livestock but accept it's not going to happen.
If you include winter grazings, I have nigh on 300ac to use - none of it is mine.
-
:eyelashes:Become a rent boy :innocent: and hire the land then bung soay sheep on it .
Use and electric fence to contain them as it is the cheaper option to stock fencing and can also be moved .
They are hard little beggers and don't need much attention . Knock them on the head come autumn sell from the garden gate or at market and put the profit in a jam jar in an IF account till you have enough for the land
Do have a look into the legal fees you will have to cough up for searches such as ownership or are they nearly bankrupt and transfer of deeds..
Note a business selling land used to have a seven year clawback by HMC&R for VAT & CGT etc. if the owner went bankrupt within seven years of a transaction. ( to stop bankrupts disposing of land and not declaring profit) etc.
-
Just sitting here having a late breakfast after feeding animals.... catching up on posts on the forum... I almost choked ! Thankfully the link did not work on my phone but I get the idea from the rest of the posts. I guess you don't know until you try something. But really, begging for money on here so that you can follow your unrealistic dream is beyond rude ! Small holding is a lifestyle choice... and we will all have to make sacrifices to follow that choice at some stage or another. Whether that be financial, personal or just time.... but one thing is for sure is we won't sacrifice to enable a complete stranger can take the easy route.
If you can't raise the 7k to buy the land you will never afford to run the project . Small holding is a great way..... an enjoyable way of spending money... rewarding in its own way, but rarely financially.
-
Is this where I put my request for a pony - diamond ring and a new Audi ??? :innocent:
-
We had a bit of this on Freecycle. People asking for a trailer, electric fencing etc. I suppose if you don't ask, you don't get - but it's a bit of a cheek imho.
-
We had a bit of this on Freecycle. People asking for a trailer, electric fencing etc. I suppose if you don't ask, you don't get - but it's a bit of a cheek imho.
But there may be people on freecycle who have an old trailer or electric fencing they don't use now. I can't imagine the same can be said for 7k.
-
I think it's a valiant effort, but possibly the wrong way to go about things during a recession :)
People want something in return for their money, guaranteed. To make an extra bit of money I've done a house clearance, selling anything that's not been used in a while or not required, on Facebook and Gumtree. It's not exactly £7k but it's a nice bit of pocket money to put aside for a rainy day.
Car booting or nearly new sales are an age-old but useful way for making pennies :)
-
I've thought about doing that too - it's working out the P & P that gets me.
-
Sounds like we're talking to the empty ether......wannabefarmerjoe (if that's what he really is) seems to have gone walkabout.
There are so many scams around that I am deeply cynical about this :thinking: . Has anyone on here ever met this chap?
-
I had to think hard about my next post on this subject,
So after ye all have coughed up his £7k can I have PLEASE
£400,000 for some land
£20,000 for 2nd hand tractor (I'm not greedy 2nd hand be fine)
£8000 for a barn
Baler, haybob, mower, hedge flail, seed drill, sprayer
900 metres of stock fence & posts
A couple of bags of lime
A jersey cow
20 ewes
If you give me all of that I be happy :excited:
Oh the misses said can she have an Audi convertible ? PLEASE
Thank you in advance for your stupidity oops I mean generosity. :wave:
-
Has anyone watched the video? From a female perspective ...
What woman would enter a field, with sheep in it, on her wedding day, in a wedding dress?
-
Has anyone watched the video? From a female perspective ...
What woman would enter a field, with sheep in it, on her wedding day, in a wedding dress?
I would say a woman who wants a piece of land costing about £7k
my mrs wanted more than that so used a kayak :roflanim:
-
I suppose my thoughts about this are similar to everyone else's, but it wouldn't be the first time that I have rushed into doing something thinking it's a good idea and not really thought about the implications, so I don't really feel I can be too harsh. You can see he joined in Sept 2012 so did not just join to pull a scam. He might be just a bit embarrassed and lying low, and not wanting to face up to any more hostility and sarcasm. He won't be in any doubt now anyway about the ideas of hard work and self-reliance that are required for small-holding, though one would have thought that going onto this forum and reading the posts for a while would have told him this. He will get there if he wants to enough, but he won't if he gets put off by a bit of good-natured abuse. Good luck to you anyway, if you are still reading! :)
-
Well the OP did sat "don't laugh too much". I took it as humour more than a serious ask. :-\
-
And you never know - there might be enough suckers of FB to have enabled him/her to fulfill their dreams
-
Maybe we are being a little to harsh, after all , he is only asking, unlike our governments who take without asking :roflanim:
I see no problem with having a dream, and if someone is rich enough to spare a few bob then best of luck to the lad, personally i think its better to struggle to buy what you want , at least then its not a throw away thing if you get bored with it,
I have many things on my want list, some i will never get, we may even settle for 2nd best when it comes to the smallholding, but with some hard work and a bit of saving, i can make it much better than what it is..and that will be good enough
-
I had to think hard about my next post on this subject,
So after ye all have coughed up his £7k can I have PLEASE
£400,000 for some land
£20,000 for 2nd hand tractor (I'm not greedy 2nd hand be fine)
£8000 for a barn
Baler, haybob, mower, hedge flail, seed drill, sprayer
900 metres of stock fence & posts
A couple of bags of lime
A jersey cow
20 ewes
If you give me all of that I be happy :excited:
Oh the misses said can she have an Audi convertible ? PLEASE
Thank you in advance for your stupidity oops I mean generosity. :wave:
:roflanim: :roflanim:
And then can someone pay off my mortgage please?
-
I had to think hard about my next post on this subject,
So after ye all have coughed up his £7k can I have PLEASE
£400,000 for some land
£20,000 for 2nd hand tractor (I'm not greedy 2nd hand be fine)
£8000 for a barn
Baler, haybob, mower, hedge flail, seed drill, sprayer
900 metres of stock fence & posts
A couple of bags of lime
A jersey cow
20 ewes
If you give me all of that I be happy :excited:
Oh the misses said can she have an Audi convertible ? PLEASE
Thank you in advance for your stupidity oops I mean generosity. :wave:
:roflanim: :roflanim:
And then can someone pay off my mortgage please?
Form an orderly que now :roflanim:
Do you think we have ribbed him enough yet ? :roflanim:
-
I had to think hard about my next post on this subject,
So after ye all have coughed up his £7k can I have PLEASE
£400,000 for some land
£20,000 for 2nd hand tractor (I'm not greedy 2nd hand be fine)
£8000 for a barn
Baler, haybob, mower, hedge flail, seed drill, sprayer
900 metres of stock fence & posts
A couple of bags of lime
A jersey cow
20 ewes
If you give me all of that I be happy :excited:
Oh the misses said can she have an Audi convertible ? PLEASE
Thank you in advance for your stupidity oops I mean generosity. :wave:
:roflanim: :roflanim:
And then can someone pay off my mortgage please?
Form an orderly que now :roflanim:
Do you think we have ribbed him enough yet ? :roflanim:
No! But when the money starts pouring in and you have reached your £7k can I please have some of the thousands left over :roflanim: :roflanim:
-
Do you think we have ribbed him enough yet ? :roflanim:
Yes! Locking this now, 10/10 to the OP for the brass neck. :)