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Title: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Rosieb on July 04, 2013, 11:53:50 am
Hi Everyone
Sadly I'm giving up.
This is not a decision that has been take lightly and probably the most difficult I've made in a long time but the farm I rent has been repossessed by the bank after my landlord disappeared 4 months ago.  I have now been evicted by the bank and have just 3 weeks to leave.
I have found another place but it's only a smallholding with just 10 acre, I have tried and tried to get some extra land but have had no luck so I have had to make the very difficult decision as to who goes and who stays.
So I have for sale:
Dexter cattle:
6 in calf pedigree registered cows - in calf to my pedigree registered bull non short although they are all tiny!
2 pedigree registered cows with calves at foot
2 pedigree registered heifers - last years calves
1 pedigree registered bull - 2 year old proven very quiet nice boy
Sheep:
14 pedigree registered Ryeland ewes some with lambs at foot
3 pedigree registered Ryeland ewe yearlings
6 unregistered herdwicks
1 pedigree registered Ryeland Tup - 2 year old proven very very tame like a dog really lovely boy
Various other mule ewes with lambs at foot
Pigs:
3 Kune Kune sows - FREE TO GOOD HOMES
Ponies:
Various registered and unregistered Standard and mini Shetland ponies
Dogs: FREE TO GOOD HOME
1 collie bitch approx. 6 years can work
1 collie bitch 1 year just been put with livestock and keen to work
1 collie dog 1 year just been put with livestock and keen to work
I may have equipment for sale also and will add this once I have been through everything and had a good sort out.
Holding number required
Please PM me for prices but please no time wasters this is a very difficult sale.
Location Nr Castle Douglas, Dumfries & Galloway
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Victorian Farmer on July 04, 2013, 12:05:09 pm
i hope things go well im having problems as well a nice lot of stock .
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Beewyched on July 04, 2013, 12:13:35 pm
Hi Rosie  :wave:  I really feel for you  :bouquet:  we went through something similar a couple of months ago when my partner was made redundant & we had to move back to our house in Wales.  It's awful trying to decide who goes & who stays, especially when you have built-up your stock & keep relatively small numbers, so you know each individual animal so well - I still get upset thinking about them  :'(
 
Have you tried advertising through the various Breed Societies, as it is often the first place interested folks try when looking? 
All the best for a new start  :hshoe:
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Rosieb on July 04, 2013, 12:18:20 pm
Thanks Victorian Farmer, it's a nightmare isn't it!
It wouldn't have been half so bad if I'd have known what was going on months ago, it would have given me time to organise something but when the bank turn up on your doorstep with just 6 weeks notice you find yourself living on a wing and a prayer.
I have been lucky to find the smallholding (in fact there was 2 to choose from) but they don't have anywhere near enough land to support all of my livestock and I'm at the stage where I'm questioning why I keep fighting to keep going with it at all!
Anyway, fingers crossed I will find good homes for everything
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Rosieb on July 04, 2013, 12:21:17 pm
Hi Beewyched
Thanks for your reply, nightmare for you too  :hug:
Yes, it's hard they are like family but I've put it off as long as I can and I'm pushing it now for time so my backs against the wall and they have to go.
I'm just in the process of writing ad's now for breed societies and other places too 
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Victorian Farmer on July 04, 2013, 12:26:07 pm
in the long run its mid summer and you have 6 weeks to plan and sort .Think it could be October dark at 3.30 etc .You will be stronger after all this .And there is some supper small holders who will love and look after you re stock .You might next spring get back some of you re stock when sorted all the best .
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Rosieb on July 04, 2013, 12:37:01 pm
Thanks Victorian Farmer you are right and I had thought to myself if theres one thing I should be thankful for it's that it's summer.
I have just 2 weeks left now as I've spent the last 4 finding somewhere and trying to negotiate extra land.
I hadn't thought of putting anything out "on loan" so many be I should also add I'd be happy to loan out cow's, sheep, ponies don't know what the legalities are regarding loaning out cows and sheep so any advice would be much appreciated  :)
But anyone interested in starting with cattle and sheep but not wanting to bite the bullet and buy could try having them on loan for a while and see if it's for them
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Rosemary on July 04, 2013, 12:46:47 pm
Might be a good idea - the loan - for anyone with excess grass  :eyelashes:

The cattle and the sheep could go together since they complement each other grazing wise.

Anyway, lots of  :hug: - rotten thing to happen but hopefully something will turn up.
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Victorian Farmer on July 04, 2013, 01:04:42 pm
iv put lots of sheep cattle and hens out for people thinking of starting with things .I no its trust .IV even helped with pens if i put 6 hens and a cock birds i can increase and make changes to  breeding etc .i gave 3 geese to a small holder on here and forgot who they were .I had a pm last week iv got some young stock for you from you re geese great .
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: nic99 on July 04, 2013, 01:14:30 pm
May be interested in loaning some sheep if they could be delivered all the way up to Fife ..... no promises though. We have a flock of 50 commercial types on loan at the moment but they can't keep up with the grass growth. The guy who owns them is local though and does the majority of the care himself so it would be a big step. We have no handling equipment etc. Will need to think long and hard and of course discuss it with the other half.
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: nic99 on July 04, 2013, 01:31:11 pm
May be interested in loaning some sheep if they could be delivered all the way up to Fife ..... no promises though. We have a flock of 50 commercial types on loan at the moment but they can't keep up with the grass growth. The guy who owns them is local though and does the majority of the care himself so it would be a big step. We have no handling equipment etc. Will need to think long and hard and of course discuss it with the other half.

Scrap that, hadn't thought about the logistics of it - we wouldn't be able to mix the 2 flocks due to disease risk etc. so it just wouldn't work. Sorry!!
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Backinwellies on July 04, 2013, 01:36:17 pm
Feel for you.  Just starting up here and would hate to go through that.  Would love some of your Dexters but you are just too far away.


best wishes

Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Rosemary on July 04, 2013, 02:20:08 pm
The Dexter Cattle Society might be able to help with the cattle.  :fc:
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: lachlanandmarcus on July 04, 2013, 04:08:11 pm
I'm really sorry, that's such a horrid situation to be in and totally out of your control :-((((( I hope things go a lot better at the new place for you.


I will send you a pm re dogs, hope that helps a bit :-)
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: moony on July 04, 2013, 04:56:50 pm
There was a property Nr Castle Douglas - Corsock Farms that was advertised with Smiths Gore to let on 15yr agreement. It has however been withdrawn while the Absolute Right to buy is to be debated as the vendor is fearful of losing acreage. It was about 700 acres with various buildings. Might be a long shot as I don't know the circumstances of the vendor and whether they occupy the land themselves but they may have some spare acreage on a short term agreement while they decide what to do long term.
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Marches Farmer on July 05, 2013, 03:22:25 pm
Just seen this post.  How horrible for you.  Many good ideas.  In a year's time all will have been sorted out and you'll have a different perspective on this period of your life - it's just the teeth-gritting you have to go through to get to that point .....
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: darkbrowneggs on July 05, 2013, 07:18:10 pm
I, too have just seen this post.  So sorry - it must be loads of worry and hassle.  Hope things all work out for the best. 


A while ago I was ill and decided I couldn't cope with my little flock of Black Welsh Mountains and sold the lot on.  After a couple or three years when I was feeling better I contacted the guy and asked if I could buy them back.  He had loads of their offspring so was happy to sell them back to me and I started again - feeling I might add, much refreshed and raring to go.


Interesting thing was I sold him about 8 and when I went to collect them he had kept their offspring plus bought some others in and there were about 50 racing round an old orchard.  I stood in the middle and gave my call and my girls stopped and walked towards me.  Rather heart warming I thought, I wouldn't have expected sheep to have that long a memory.  Anyway they came back with me and were the basis of a new flock
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Victorian Farmer on July 05, 2013, 11:18:05 pm
very true dark brown eggs i sold some stock over 12months ago and seen 3 in carlile shouted them and over they come.
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Rosieb on July 06, 2013, 11:21:27 am
Thank you all for your kind messages, it makes me feel a bit better that I'm not the only one that has gone through this and yes although I feel exhausted now I know it will make me a stronger person and have surprised myself at how well I've got through it so far.
 
I have looked at a couple of the long term farm business tenancy's but the problems with them are first you have to jump through hoops to get one, second the length of time it takes for the owners to make decisions as to who they deem suitable, there are a lot of restrictions as to what is permitted on the farm most won't allow pigs for example, they are very expensive (especially when you are dictated to as to what is and what isn't allowed) it has to be run their way and most these days are for new entrants only, so for me they just aren't an option.
 
If push really comes to shove I will have to put livestock through the markets although I want to avoid this at all costs as what I have left now are really pets and I would hate to put them in that environment, any of my commercial stock has already gone through the mart, I would never put my ponies in an auction ring.
 
Hopefully I've found homes for a few of my animals so far and new adverts are going out today so keeping my fingers crossed x
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Beewyched on July 06, 2013, 02:57:49 pm
Hi Rosie  :wave:
 
Looks like your keeping your spirits up - I have some idea about how you are feeling & you need to allow yourself time to grieve too  :'(
I  so agree with you about the Mart - I had to put my 2 stud boars through a Mart - it was an awful experience, when the bidding started I just fled out the building & couldn't go back in  :'(  I think the worst thing is not knowing where they are going or how they are going to be treated  :(
It is really difficult to rent land for pigs too, don't know why coz folks are keen enough to rent for horses & TBH I think they make more of a mess, especially when it's overgrazed & not managed well- buttercups & dock everywhere  ::)   
We've got a couple of fields down here now for our pigs & my OH is slowly rebuilding her rare breed poultry, so we try & focus on the future & enjoy the animals we have.  Things often look better when it's  :sunshine:  too.
I hope you get loads of nice folk wanting your animals & you get some offers of fostering too  :fc:
In the meantime  :hug:
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: zarzar on July 06, 2013, 10:37:29 pm
Hi sorry to hear that you having to move, is a shame you so far away from us as we been looking for some kune kune girlys for our boy.
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Beewyched on July 07, 2013, 07:51:34 am
Hi sorry to hear that you having to move, is a shame you so far away from us as we been looking for some kune kune girlys for our boy.

You may be able to find some here http://board.britishkunekunesociety.org.uk/viewforum.php?f=8&sid=1f49483c102f2378e6cc3e8c4f21c410 (http://board.britishkunekunesociety.org.uk/viewforum.php?f=8&sid=1f49483c102f2378e6cc3e8c4f21c410)  it may also be worth dropping Wendy an email, as she coordinates the BKKPS rescue programme secretary@britishkunekunesociety.org.uk
Your boy would probably be ok having a castrate for company too, I usually keep a castrate or 2 to keep my boys company when they're not "working".
Hope you find some company for your boy soon   :thumbsup:
 :love: :pig: :love:
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: sabrina on July 07, 2013, 08:24:36 am
Very hard for you ,I hope your animals find good homes.  :fc:
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: lachlanandmarcus on July 07, 2013, 05:54:36 pm
I would love to foster a wee shettie but I'm not an actual smallholder so I don't have a holding number? I'm just an enthusiast! I've been looking for a wee pony on loan or cheap to buy to get my little girl used to ponies before she gets any older. Frankly I'd love to take the whole lot, I very much want to start my own smallholding but finances don't want to let me :)


Do you have other horses or donkeys, cos they do need company of their own kind under the welfare code? Maybe TWO shetties :-)))))
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: lachlanandmarcus on July 07, 2013, 06:28:40 pm
Ooh well it sounds meant to be then :-DDDD
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: oor wullie on July 07, 2013, 09:48:44 pm
iv put lots of sheep cattle and hens out for people thinking of starting with things .I no its trust .IV even helped with pens if i put 6 hens and a cock birds i can increase and make changes to  breeding etc .i gave 3 geese to a small holder on here and forgot who they were .I had a pm last week iv got some young stock for you from you re geese great .

Hey VF, it was me you gave the greese to.  They are doing well and have hatched 6 goslings so the flock is growing.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Victorian Farmer on July 07, 2013, 11:19:47 pm
just fantastic some bodey said you had bred the geese .im doing pilgrim so next spring il sort some eggs all the best
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: lachlanandmarcus on July 13, 2013, 08:24:27 pm
Just to Update, Rosie B was kind enough  :hug: to let us have the two girl sheepdogs :dog: :dog:  and we have also bought the  6 Herdwick lassies with their 3 wether lambs :-))) :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep:  They will (after quarantine) join our Shetlands who will probably blank them for 'looking weird or something' :-DD


 Thankyou RosieB for placing your trust in us, we promise to live up to it and give the dogs a really good and loving permanent home. (thanks also to OH who is driving them here!!).


If anyone else on the forum hasn't yet seen RosieBs ad and is looking for stock in Scotland,  just scroll up to the top of this thread for details of the animals available, (due to unforeseen circumstances outside RosieBs control).





Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: NetherBrae on July 13, 2013, 10:33:45 pm
Would it be possible to post an up to date list of who is still looking for a new home? Thanks
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: aess35 on July 13, 2013, 11:18:47 pm
Hi I just read your post..not been on here for a while due to a similar situation with a dodgy landlord, I'm now evicted and my landlord has made my partner bankrupt pursuing money that he wasn't due..anyway that's by the by my problem and upset today is that due to a speeding motorist I lost my sheepdog/pet today.  Have your dogs now gone? I need one that loves to work and other dogs and kids.  If I'd read your post earlier I'd have suggested contacting the Forestry Commision in Ae, I know that they had a lot of land not so long ago that they were struggling to rent out, some lowland and some rougher. Life's just too hard sometimes but you just have to get the next day and try to make it better. :'(
Title: Re: Giving up (almost) everything must go Nr Dumfries
Post by: Roxy on July 14, 2013, 10:57:05 am
Good to know the sheepdogs and sheep have gone to a good home.  Its an awful situation to be in, but knowing the livestock have gone to decent homes must help.  Unfortunately, I am too far away to take anything, but wish you luck in finding homes, and sorting yourself out.