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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: gavin davies on May 08, 2013, 09:50:09 pm

Title: eggs
Post by: gavin davies on May 08, 2013, 09:50:09 pm
i have just got another plot of land on the allotment which i am getting ready for chickens can i feed eggs left over to the pigs i can cook them on site if needed not sure what the law is with my own pigs

not planning on eating them they are pets
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: MAK on May 08, 2013, 10:30:54 pm
This has been discussed a few times.
 From memory the consensus is yes as long as you do not take them into your kitchen first - some would also say no if the eggs are a product that you aime to sell. No problem of course if the chicken lays an egg amongst the pigs and they then eat them.
Every day my chickens lay 3 eggs ( always the big ones) in the pigs field. The pigs find them and carry them into their indoor sty to crack them and then eat them with their morning feed. Good protein for the 3 young GOS and low cost to me  :excited:
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: Berkshire Boy on May 08, 2013, 10:49:46 pm
No you can't feed pigs eggs.
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: oaklandspigs on May 09, 2013, 07:36:51 am
As BB says, sorry this is illegal
 
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: Bodger on May 09, 2013, 07:56:45 am
There are lots of things that you're not supposed to feed to your pigs. :innocent:  If you're caught out, then a plea based on common sense wont save you. Thanks to unscrupulous practices, our well looked after piggies are lumbered with the same rules and regulations that the bad boys are.
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: MAK on May 09, 2013, 05:59:59 pm
Hang on - if the pigs are not to be moved off your land, have no contact with other animals, are home killed and butchered by you then yes if they find an egg, slug or worm then in my book they can eat it. The supply and food chain stops with my pig being eaten by me. Mind you I would never give them an egg produced by a chicken that has been fed with factory produced pellets. Who knows what those large feed producers chuck into it?

Title: Re: eggs
Post by: Berkshire Boy on May 09, 2013, 10:14:08 pm
That's all well and good MAK but you live in France and you are just confusing the issue. In this country it is illegal to feed eggs to pigs.
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: MAK on May 10, 2013, 05:16:01 am
Yes sorry. I'll keep that in mind in the future too. :)
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: Rosemary on May 10, 2013, 07:44:26 am
Why is it illegal to feed eggs to pigs?
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: oaklandspigs on May 10, 2013, 08:29:04 am
'cos it's easier for an office worker in Brussels with no farming experience to make one big rule than to work on real individual risk! 
That's why it is also illegal to feed kitchen scraps to chickens - easier to say nothing from kitchen than to recognise that chickens don't get foot and mouth
That's why it's easier to say everyone has to clean out their trailer after transporting livestock than to recognise that my trailer has been from farm to abattoir, that only pigs got off, and nothing got on, and that it'll be at my farm until the next time.
That's why young pigs move on a pointless temporary mark that serves no purpose.
That's why you need to take a pathetic exam to move your pigs over 65km
That is why you have to provide "lateral protections" to your trailer ramp, despite that most smallholders transport in a P6e which has a maximum height that pigs could fall off the side of a foot.
That is why... etc.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: OhLaLa on May 10, 2013, 09:53:37 am
Perhaps the question needs rephrasing to:
 
Can my pigs legally eat eggs?
If my pigs eat eggs will they have any adverse effect?
 :pig:
 
As far as I'm aware  -  no and no.
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: hughesy on May 10, 2013, 10:01:18 am
Our hens mingle with the pigs and sometimes go into their arks. If they lay an egg in there will a man with a clipboard suddenly appear, make a note of the fact that the pigs have an egg, then return later to see if they've eaten it? Or is there a ridiculous EU rule somewhere that forbids keeping poultry in the same area as pigs?
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: Berkshire Boy on May 10, 2013, 11:50:39 am
No Hughesy there isn't, also there isn't a man with a clipboard watching wether you feed your pigs meat but does that mean you do because no one is watching. The law is the law and if people can't live by them then don't keep pigs - simples.
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: Bodger on May 10, 2013, 12:53:46 pm
Its a good job that not everyone thought that the Poll tax was the law and that it shouldn't be questioned.
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: Berkshire Boy on May 10, 2013, 12:58:46 pm
Why is it any worse than what we have now.
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: Bodger on May 10, 2013, 01:11:16 pm
I may have taken things off topic in using the Poll Tax as an example of the law somtimes being an ass and not alway sensible or justified, but suffice it to say, that the Poll tax was responsible for splitting famillies and was one of the reasons why Margaret Thatcher was so reviled by a sizeable portion of the UK population. Do you remember the Poll tax demonstrations?
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: hughesy on May 10, 2013, 02:39:46 pm
I fully comply with the rules regarding my pigs and would be the first to complain about anyone who didn't. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it or refrain from taking the mickey.
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: Berkshire Boy on May 10, 2013, 04:12:12 pm
I never doubted you Hughesy and like you I think the rules are not well thought out [polite version] but we have to live with them at the moment.
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: Hassle on May 10, 2013, 09:34:37 pm
If your chicken lays an egg inside the pen and the man with the clipboard turns up to prosecute the chicken please please phone me as I so need to laugh at him  :roflanim:
Title: Re: eggs
Post by: hughesy on May 10, 2013, 11:45:09 pm
To be honest I'm more concerned that the pigs might eat the chicken before she got a chance to lay an egg!