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Livestock => Cattle => Topic started by: james130693 on June 30, 2009, 04:20:27 pm

Title: registration
Post by: james130693 on June 30, 2009, 04:20:27 pm

hi new here i was wondering if anyone could tell me what i need to do to make the land that i own into a small holding? Also i was wondering what i need to register a animal because it seems like there is a lot of paper work involved.
thanks james

Title: Re: registration
Post by: JulieS on June 30, 2009, 06:43:51 pm

I have recently done this and I call the Rural Payments Agency first for a CPH (County Parish Holding) number.  0845 603 7777.

Once I had that I called our local Defra office, Animal Health dept and they gave me my numbers for pigs, chickens and sheep.  I presume it is similar for cattle.

I'm sure someone with more experience will be able to help further.

Title: Re: registration
Post by: Rosemary on June 30, 2009, 08:47:12 pm

CPH and herd number are teh same but all cattle rquire individual passports, so movement arrangements are different.

Animal Health will be able to advise.

Title: Re: registration
Post by: danndans on June 30, 2009, 09:40:33 pm

your CPH number willbe made up of 3 different sets of numbers.eg............12/345/6789............your herd number will be a uk number...eg........UK098765 wich would be your ongoing herd number followed by an individual animal number  ;D

both these numbers...the herd and the individual one will be printed on the tags that comewith the animal, these should be checked with the passport to make sure they correspond  :)

Title: Re: registration
Post by: james130693 on July 01, 2009, 07:32:54 pm

thanks for the info but wondering when you have bought your cattle do you change the passport number to your herd and animal identification number or do you leave them as it is
thanks james

Title: Re: registration
Post by: danndans on July 01, 2009, 09:55:10 pm

leave them as they are  ;)

Title: Re: registration
Post by: Farmer on July 05, 2009, 12:36:01 am

When granted, your CPH number identifies your holding and is used to trace any animal that leaves your holding back to you via movement licences, cattle passports etc. Ear Tags carry your herd/flock number and the UK prefix that has been assigned to your particular holding. If you have pigs you will be issued with an additional identification number which identifies pigs born/raised on your holding; these are applied to the animal via ear tags, tattoos or slap markers and must be entered on movement licences etc.

Its not difficult to obtain a CPH or cattle/flock or pig numbers, but you will be subjected to Trading Standards inspections and MUST keep and maintain records of animal movements and the administration of medication to any animal - before taking the final plunge I advise you to log on to the DEFRA website and read, read, read! Additional information can also be found on the Business Link website (rural section).

Don't be put off by the paperwork or terminology...its well worth the effort...and TAS is full of people who will be only too willing to offer help/advice when its needed...good luck!

Regards, Farmer
 :farmer:

Title: Re: registration
Post by: shetlandpaul on July 06, 2009, 06:51:16 pm

and remember you must have the numbers first. it really is not worth the moaning you would get from the animal health  chappy.