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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: plt102 on March 25, 2013, 07:55:59 pm

Title: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: plt102 on March 25, 2013, 07:55:59 pm
Hi there, have a shetland who gave birth to two lambs about an hour ago. She licked them off and she fed them. Another water bag appeared and has burst. She is pawing the ground but other than that looking quite comfortable. There is nothing showing yet but I'm pretty sure there is a third on its way. How long should I wait before intervening. She doesn't seem to be straining or I trouble but I am worried that it might be a dead lamb.
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: SallyintNorth on March 25, 2013, 07:59:29 pm
Hmmm... usually you want to see numbers 2 and 3 within 20 mins of the one before when it's triplets.  I'd maybe have a gentle look-see.
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: plt102 on March 25, 2013, 08:00:38 pm
Ok, I will warm up and then go back out with the lube and peneccillin.
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: Remy on March 25, 2013, 08:01:19 pm
I would also have thought a triplet would have come out quicker - but having said that, I had a twin born two  hours after it's sibling!
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: Sbom on March 25, 2013, 08:10:25 pm
If you gently bump her belly you'll feel if there's another there, but it won't harm to stick a hand in and check, triplets have a tendency to get in a fuddle!
Good luck  :fc:
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: plt102 on March 25, 2013, 08:33:33 pm
Ok, so shge looks like she is passing afterbirth. Still no sign of a baby although she does feel very solid still. She is very defensive and tried to but me. Shall I get someone to hold her and have a look?
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: Sbom on March 25, 2013, 08:36:34 pm
Yep, or you'll never sleep! :innocent:
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: SallyintNorth on March 25, 2013, 08:37:22 pm
If it's afterbirth then she's probably finished.  But it's hard, not being there, to know whether it's a full-of-lamb sort of solid!  And my experience so far is with bigger, commercial types - maybe someone with primitives can comment on ways of being sure she's empty without sticking an arm up?
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: plt102 on March 25, 2013, 08:37:28 pm
Hee hee. Ok . I'll update in a bit xxx
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: ScotsGirl on March 25, 2013, 09:13:58 pm
Usually you can feel just in front of udder if you press it will be hard if lamb still there. If flexible probably empty but if not presented correct she might need help so I would check.  I have had one go 6 hours before second came out! It was perfectly healthy.
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: Nickie on March 26, 2013, 07:15:22 am
Any news?


Not much help to you but last year we had a shetland which gave birth to a second lamb 8 days after the first. It's very unusual, but not unheard of! Both did fine.
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: plt102 on March 26, 2013, 04:43:16 pm
So she has twins. She is a bit of a spikey mum but they seem to be able to convince her to feed them OK. So it looks like it was just afterbirth. Couldn't feel a triplet with my fingers. Didn't go in too far. However, her tummy is still Very solid. Could it be bloat or something or is there a possibility of a dead lamb in there somewhere?
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: plt102 on March 26, 2013, 06:17:58 pm
So she has twins. She is a bit of a spikey mum but they seem to be able to convince her to feed them OK. So it looks like it was just afterbirth. Couldn't feel a triplet with my fingers. Didn't go in too far. However, her tummy is still Very solid. Could it be bloat or something or is there a possibility of a dead lamb in there somewhere?
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: ScotsGirl on March 26, 2013, 07:11:10 pm
If she looks contented and afterbirth appears to have come out then that could be her lot.  Just look out for her pawing and still looking uncomfortable.  You need to get your hand through the cervix to be able to tell if a lamb still in. If dead, small or badly presented you won't feel in the birth canal.
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: paulrollings on March 26, 2013, 07:14:08 pm
Hey hey, I'm in vaguely similar predicament. One of my ewes gave birth to a single lamb (3.76kg) yesterday evening.  I helped with the birth, but was OK. 

However, I was very surprised to see only one lamb.  I had a feel inside her, and could not feel a second lamb, but I might have missed it as I really don't know what I'm doing. 

Worried that she has a second lamb which has died inside her, then not sure what would happen, would she pass it?  Tried to have another look inside her this morning but she wasn't having it, and didn't want to push it?  The ewe is eating and drinking and looking after the lamb, doesn't show any signs of distress.  Any advice welcomed?

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8591555093_25bb4bcaf1_c.jpg)
Title: Re: how long can it take between lamb number 2 and number 3
Post by: SallyintNorth on March 27, 2013, 05:42:26 am
Paul, has she expelled the afterbirth?  If so, then she's finished.

Why were you expecting two?  Was she scanned for two?  Otherwise if she and lambie are happy, then I would be too!