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Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: rispainfarm on March 11, 2013, 09:13:20 am
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Can it be done????? Watch this space. :excited:
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£5 total or per day?
Mandy :pig:
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Can be done,
Mon - mashed potatoe
Tue - boiled potatoe
We'd - baked potatoe
Thur- chips
Fri - boiled potatoe with mashed potatoe topping under the grill
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£5 in total not day Mandy. And Alistair, it will be more appetising than just potatos. The recipes will be healthy and meet all your nutritional needs. We have taken on the challenge from Unicef to do just this.
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wow, now thats a challenge, I know my brother manages on that but on his own, he often writes how he gets his protien, not always choice stuff though. I know we fill up on carbs and thats not too good for me or long term, I will be so interested to see what you eat, hope your family are not fussy?
I remember a friend doing something like that a few years ago, she even broke down her fuel costs re cooking. its often the added hidden extras that can mount up!!
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it will be interesting to see how, cos even buying seeds and growing your food, growing your own meat and eggs, puts us seriously out of pocket and its geniunely cheaper to buy it from tesco.
unless you are buying it from approved foods? :roflanim: :roflanim: :roflanim: and living purely on blancmange.... :roflanim:
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I was going to make a Rhubarb crumble but as I had none at that time I went to buy some and it was very very expensive, then of course the added cost of the sugar, I then bought a tin and the crumble tasted just as home made with solid chunks as the real stuff. I have a big freezer full of bargains that can support us for a while but starting from scratch IS a challange, its all the bits and bob and the cooking that add up!!
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Well I am a little embarrassed now :-[ :-[ as I got it slightly wrong. Its feed one person on a fiver for five days. the person who I am working with on it has just informed me, Still a challenge,but maybe not quite as much - sorry folks
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Well its still a challenge, not quite so many chips then? :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Don't forget that on this challenge you can't have "free" food - if it's homegrown, you have to calculate the cost of growing it... And don't forget, even the land you grow it on costs something; so it really isn't that easy! I checked their website - and found that they didn't cost in the energy for cooking, or fuel/bus fares you need to buy all that extra cheap food they recommend.
Yes, it can be done - if you don't mind what's in your sausages, and you live within walking distance of a really cheap supermarket.
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Can we assume that £5 per person includes wine?
I reckon that will be difficult if you can not spend more than £5 to take advatage of offers or bulk buys and then pro rata the cost per meal /person/day.
Let us know how it goes please.
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£20 for wine, for a week?, for 4 people?
Can't be done, I'd be crying on the Tuesday....
Is this to show how people survive on one dollar a day poverty line in the third world?
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I have said this times but I did do some catering and made all my food from scratch, stewed good quality meat (hope not horse) for a pie, made the pastry etc and then, after the wonderful meal, saw big steak pies on offer for £1 each, I am sure the chaps would have liked them just as much.
We buy loads of 10 bargains, I am no fan of any sausage, not even posh stuff, and hate burgers (just had one ::) ) but not a fan at all, yet I cannot afford the better stuff at the moment so our diet is not so wonderful, I even buy frozen veg at £1 a pack, there are only 2 of us and it saves a hell of a lot, mind you I did buy 3 caulis at 10p each on Friday, they are soup now!!!!
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Nearly nettle soup time :yum: :yum: :yum: :yum:
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I don't know what the 'rules' are . £5 for one for a week , under certain circumstances would be a doddle .
If it is being done seriously , ie not expecting wine etc , then just by buying 'on offer ' food , and not expecting half a ton of crap to be tipped down your gullet every 5 minutes , then it would be very easy .
It all depends on the criterion imposed , ie , i can survive on no money at all , albeit on a very different diet to normal .
£5 for 1 week is no test at all really , £5 a week for 6 months would begin to be a test , as many people are likely to find out this year .
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Just looked at my money situation , it is dire lol .
I have just less than £40 a week to live on per week all year .
I have 3 horses and 3 dogs to feed , already bought 12 bales of haylage at £25 each since november . The dogs cost about £8 per week .
Over the year i reckon it works out i live on about £15 per week max , £3 of that is delivery charges on food .
The £40
per week also has to cover , stamps , mobile credit , internet over the mobile , bus fares , wellingtons and any clothes i need !
Some people talk the talk , others , walk the walk , all year , every year lol .
Oh yeah , also had to buy all the barley for the horses this year too !
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i would give you a bag off spuds a tray off eggs and some sprouts for 5 pound see Whit you could do with that ..
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Lentils, chick peas, etc bought as dried beans, not tinned. Soak overnight and then cook. If you have a pressure cooker, they don't take long. You can do loads of different meals with them.
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A bag of texturised soya protein costs about £1.60 and makes up to approxiametly 4lb mince 'meat' Do not buy frozen soya mince or quorn as you are paying for water. It is already cooked so there is no need to soak.
If you use this in any mince receipes you can think of with veg ,garlic onions, spice,pasta you could just about live on this. Recontitute with a tin of chopped tomatoes and and water and simmer with what ever flavours you are using or veg for a least 45mins as the flavour has to seep in. Its a complete protein so you do not have to balance it. Also red lentils with different veg make very filling soups.
If my husband as not a confrimed carnivore we could probabely live on this diet with added eggs, cheese, milk, and potatoes.
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A bag of texturised soya protein costs about £1.60 and makes up to approxiametly 4lb mince 'meat'
Please, where does one buy that? At That price it is definitely on my shopping list next time I am in England.
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Now if Anthony Worrell Thompson had used this £5 challenge as his excuse for shoplifting the cheese & wine.......
Ok steal a pig, half a dozen chickens , raid a spud field , nick a net of horse carrots , .... :innocent:
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Freegans have a good idea I reckon...if only the supermarkets didn't squirt washing up liquid over all the 'wonky carrots' or tinned beans that are one day out of sell by.... ::)
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in fairness the supermarkets are getting better, with the number of food banks now operating to support those in desperate need... a lot of damaged stock that would otherwise have been skipped but is perfectly edible is finding its way to those in need!
unfortunately the laws on out of date are very strict and harder to overcome!!!
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That's why I buy from approved food online. Brilliant way to use the 'out of date' stuff up. Unfortunately I'm a bit rubbish with quantities and currently have 17 tins of mandarin oranges, 4kg of decaf (which I thought was real caf) and the hugest tin of green curry sauce in my cupboard (!)
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Plumbs I am bad at size and quantity unless I see things, I used to end up with the wrong quantities all the time ;) , however, now I am too poor to shop on line, we just buy the basic stuff and stock up on reduced stuff, I now have to eat things I am not fond of and its definitely having an effect on my system, and my weight, myself and my daughters need a meat and veg diet and low carb and dairy, I can go into a very sick state after a glass of milk but up to that amount daily is fine.
I also want to know where you get that soya protein, when I last ate soya mince, i had very bad indigestion for ages....
With all the current cuts and down turns, I think we all need the opportunity to buy cheap food, otherwise, people will be stealing more, from shops, each other and allotments!!
I have never had a mega budget, we have run this big house on a tiny income now for 5 years and got buy, the business does very well, hardly ever empty but the costs are far too high and my husbands jobs come and go, so we never can have a big spend up unless we have a tax rebate or something, in fact, the very last bit of our savings has now paid for repair work and the fuel bill, just grateful my children are doing very well and all we have to look after are the dogs and 4 hens :)
I always managed to cook good meals but I am not enjoying my high carb cheap diet at all!!!! For breakfast Steve has porridge, the cheap oats etc, I usually have toast as porridge upsets me for the day too!!
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I reckon my diet could easily be under £5 for 4-5 days, even if I went and bought the eggs which I'd never do now I've had my own hens. There's a local shop sells free range for £1.05 for half a dozen, a few spuds to bake or make into wedges, a bag of rice, some dried beans or lentils, a pint of milk.. The only thing I reckon I'd have to give up the daily coffee and that would be hard even for 4 days, but if you could cost things like tea and coffee pro rata rather than have to buy the whole bag it shouldn't be impossible..
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surely there must be some limitations which mean you have to acheive a certain amount of calories per day and a certain proportion of protein?
Otherwise it would be simple - rice for every meal - you may expire from boredom after a few days :eyelashes:
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This will be an eye opener I think :innocent:
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I just saw this in a local paper!! http://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/news/local-headlines/bins-raided-in-search-of-food-1-2823885 (http://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/news/local-headlines/bins-raided-in-search-of-food-1-2823885)
and its not me, I would never get back out!! ;)
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Yes Sandy, I saw that in the paper too. However, did you see the opening line?
A store has been forced to lock its refuse bins to stop hungry people stealing discarded food.
Why shouldn't hungry people be allowed to "steal" the discarded food? If people are down on their luck enough to be bin raking to feed themselves, why on earth lock it? I did see that the article goes on to talk about a local food bank, which is a great idea of course.
There are more details on the Unicef "live below the line" challenge on their website (http://unicef.org.uk/Fundraise/live-below-the-line/)by the way. I have to say, having looked at the recipe ideas, I'm not desperate to take part myself, so good luck Rispainfarm!! ;)
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food banks are becoming swamped with clients
you have to have a referral from an appropriate agency you can't just turn up and they will feed you and your family for up to 12 weeks. I hear story's from friends who work in the food banks as volunteers of people who have walked miles to collect there weeks food and miles back again.
THIS IS HAPPENING ALL AROUND US!!!
there are 4 food banks running in Edinburgh alone and they go through 2 tons of food a week!!!
the locked bins comes from a fear amongst stores they will be prosecuted if someone gets ill from eating there discarded waste...
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Both me and my husband worked with homeless and used to know plenty of places where people could get free food such as the local temples and churches for example, where I worked we also took emergency food parcels with basic stuff in, its getting harder to survive than its ever been, we had a load of 10 fruit the other week and most was not even ripe, goodness knows why they had reduced it so much :thinking:
My husband also did some wake ups to street sleepers, hot chocolate or coffee and biscuits!! Now I bet there are so many cut backs, such a shame, anyway, I am off later to check out that soya!!! :wave:
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£20 for wine, for a week?, for 4 people?
Can't be done, I'd be crying on the Tuesday....
Is this to show how people survive on one dollar a day poverty line in the third world?
:roflanim: :roflanim: me too
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I will let you know how it goes folks with recipes.
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:thumbsup: , hope it goes well.... :fc:
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Nearly nettle soup time :yum: :yum: :yum: :yum:
Yum! And wild garlic omelettes, nearly time for those too :yum:
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I have a lovely recipe for tomato soup with a poached egg served in it ;)
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food banks are becoming swamped with clients
you have to have a referral from an appropriate agency you can't just turn up and they will feed you and your family for up to 12 weeks. I hear story's from friends who work in the food banks as volunteers of people who have walked miles to collect there weeks food and miles back again.
THIS IS HAPPENING ALL AROUND US!!!
there are 4 food banks running in Edinburgh alone and they go through 2 tons of food a week!!!
the locked bins comes from a fear amongst stores they will be prosecuted if someone gets ill from eating there discarded waste...
ah there probly all druggies and losers eh?? :-J
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did i say that? no i didn't most of the people affected are people the benefit system has screwed over...
they are people often deeply ashamed they have had to ask for help to feed their families and it takes some of them a lot of courage to do so!!!
these are people with jobs who don't earn enough to cover ever increasing bills...
these are people who lose jobs suddenly and can't access benefits for what ever reason quickly,
or most commonly they are people where benefits have been cancelled and are pending appeal!!!
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There are loads of jobs but loads of people apply for them and most are min wage, not even sure you can rent a house and bring up a family on a full time min wage job?
I am stuck as I can work if needed, I get offered jobs all the time but then miss out on business, its either close up or keep going, I also would have to pay out for all sorts of stuff, clothing (you should see what I wear?) petrol, upkeep of the car, and then my TAX would go past the limit. I have done all three, being self employed, fostering and paid youth work.
My husband and myself both do social work jobs if required, through an agency, they can stop any time or start any time, so not much security.
I have always had big houses but no money!!!!!! now I want a small house and some money!!! :thumbsup:
Crime is bound to increase, I keep thinking of the poor people trying to hold it together, its bad enough with no children to feed etc, anyway, lets see what the budget brings? I already missed out on my pension! If they had not altered the age, I would be relatively well off, I live on fresh air and a few £ at the moment, even though business is great as we have had loads of expense that appears to take money from us faster than we can earn it, so cannot afford to be choosy about where I shop or how we eat!!
Left over Cottage pie tonight and some sort of pudding when I finnish rabbititng!!! :innocent:
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did i say that? no i didn't most of the people affected are people the benefit system has screwed over...
they are people often deeply ashamed they have had to ask for help to feed their families and it takes some of them a lot of courage to do so!!!
these are people with jobs who don't earn enough to cover ever increasing bills...
these are people who lose jobs suddenly and can't access benefits for what ever reason quickly,
or most commonly they are people where benefits have been cancelled and are pending appeal!!!
i used the tongue in cheek icon!!! alot of people believe that foodbanks are used by druggies and losers. i know this is not the case too david. in fact i first rasied the issue of foodbanks a while ago.
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sorry reread your post - i must learn not to reply straight after i walk in from a £#@&* day at work that left me rather grumpy.
have eaten and had caffeine now more relaxed...
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They say that most people in the UK are just 3 pay cheques away from loosing their home and I guess in need of help from such as a foodbank. My daughter has just joined a major supermarket chain and visits many stores. If alerted she will buy "end of range food" that they won't give shelf space for. She gets her staff discount too and takes it to the food bank that she helps out at.
So - not just food near the sell by date is trashed. Stock with old packaging or in different sized containers/packs is taken off the shelf to make way for the new stuff.
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I have a lovely recipe for tomato soup with a poached egg served in it ;)
That sounds delicious - have you ever put it in the recipe forum? Gulp, unless I've mis-read your emoticon wink and that's actually a metaphor.
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I have a lovely recipe for tomato soup with a poached egg served in it ;)
That sounds delicious - have you ever put it in the recipe forum? Gulp, unless I've mis-read your emoticon wink and that's actually a metaphor.
No, I haven't put on the recipe forum, but will do - it really is delicious. No metaphor intended by my wink - I just like that emoticon!! ;)
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Phew! That sounds lovely and OH loves poached egg. I'll keep an eye out for it - thanks :)
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When my children were children and at home and we lived under the breadline, a great favourite was savoury bread and butter pudding, made with stale bread. Instead of dried fruit and sugar, you layer the bread with grated cheese.
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bet that was yummy, bit like a flan without pastry, I used to make small jam sandwiches, drop them into Beaton egg and fry, they were lovely cheap puddings, cheap ideas on here is always handy. :wave:
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Just out of curiosity then, coming back to Zak's poached egg soup recipe (http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=32004.0), and with a bit of Tesco.com browsing:
1 kg potatoes, 69p. Say 10p per bowl of soup, just for argument's sake.
1 kg onions, 69p, Say 10p again?
Paprika, £1 per jar, so say 5p?
10 stock cubes, 15p, so say 3p
Tinned tomatoes, 31p per can, so £1.24 total
Tomato puree, 34p per tube, so say 10p.
Six eggs, £1.34, so two eggs equals 46p.
The total spent is therefore £5.46, of which, roughly £2.10 is used to make the soup, which would make at least three meals, give or take an egg or two.
You should submit that one to Unicef Zak. It's way better than most of the recipes that they list. I guess the problem is that at roughly 70p per portion, it only leaves another 30p for all the rest of your food and drink for the day, and doesn't allow for much variety.
It's quite a challenge Rispainfarm. I do hope you're going to keep us updated with progress!
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Womble, thats why sometimes, especialy if you live alone, its cheaper to buy a £1 ready meal :innocent: , I try to be economical with oven time etc, but often put the oven on for a small meal for us 2.
Indian ready meals are nice, it can take me ages and ages to come up with something as nice as I can buy, also to buy a jar of some stuff like cumin, cloves, curry leaf etc etc can mount up, I so remember being a student and it was the bits that I found hard to afford.....
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Yes, cheap to make and easy too. The amount we make lasts us 2-3 days easily.
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I make up spag bol ,
mince : 750g @ £2.48
green pepper : @ .80p
onions x 2 : @ .10p
garlic x 8 cloves @ free
mushrooms : 320g @ 1.00
passata : 500g @ .29p
tom puree : @ . 10p
spaghetti : @ .55p
the above makes enough for 4 or 5 meals .
A cheap veg soup/stew would be much cheaper and allow for extras .
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day 1 make a big big load of french onion soup. (loaf of bread 75p. 60p/2kg onion + 2 beef stock cubes 10p)
day 2 add 2 tins of toms and some mince to whats left over for a pasta sauce. (50p toms, 250 mince 25p pasta)
day 3 add tin of kidney beans and some chilli powder to do chilli con carne. (50p beans, 5p spices)
anything left over make some pastry and turn it into pasties. (20p flour etc)
thats how i would do it.
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food banks are becoming swamped with clients
you have to have a referral from an appropriate agency you can't just turn up and they will feed you and your family for up to 12 weeks. I hear story's from friends who work in the food banks as volunteers of people who have walked miles to collect there weeks food and miles back again.
THIS IS HAPPENING ALL AROUND US!!!
there are 4 food banks running in Edinburgh alone and they go through 2 tons of food a week!!!
the locked bins comes from a fear amongst stores they will be prosecuted if someone gets ill from eating there discarded waste...
ah there probly all druggies and losers eh?? :-J
Do you live nr edinburgh DITW
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You don't realise actually until you start speaking to people about this, how many people really are struggling to put food on the table. When is this country going to improve, in my eyes, its getting deeper and deeper in trouble, but then that is another post I suppose. :thinking:
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You don't realise actually until you start speaking to people about this, how many people really are struggling to put food on the table. When is this country going to improve, in my eyes, its getting deeper and deeper in trouble, but then that is another post I suppose
I can understand why families shop at Iceland or farmfoods or similar shops......our diet has gone down the pan lately too :(
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I buy some of our meat/game/poultry from a farm shop up the road. 3 ducks, 6 partridges and 2 pheasants for a fiver. Yes I had to gut and skin etc but small price to pay as I know where it came from, that its the bird its meant to be and they are lovely!!
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wow, that is amazing, I'd be more than happy to gut etc my meat if it was going at those prices. I'd love to have duck in my diet but cant afford to pay £8 per duck at tesco!!
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a good butcher should be able to supply pigeon etc cheaply, think i paid a pound each last time i bought a brace.
rabbit is cheap, and really filling, about £2 each.
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Wow that's cheap for bunnies and for birds, even shooting them yourself with permission I may add, it would cost a bit in cartridges etc.....so £5 is very good, I know a few people who would give me game but I cannot be bothered sadly with the gutting and plucking, I did when I had to though, I know my son in law has a stuffed freezer down in Australia"" :thumbsup:
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Thank you ZacTheLad that was delicious soup! :yum: definite addition to our budget menus. ;D
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I used to make a cheap pud by stirring some dried fruit into a very thick batter mix then deep frying tablespoonsful. Drain well (Kitchen towel?) and dunk in sugar. They're a bit like doughnuts. I fed my friend's husband once while she was away and gave him those. The next day my friend was round asking for the recipe. Her OH had sent her.
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Well, after reading plumbs post, we are off to find a butchers, 11 bits of game for £5. Any good butchers nearish........that's more of a bargin and food for the dogs
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Not the cheapest soya protien the colout is more meat looking. I sell vegitarian food at festivals and people often think its meat.
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=2767&prodid=3670&cid=52 (http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=2767&prodid=3670&cid=52)
Tesco( spit) also sell it in their whole food department.
Makes a basic tomatoe sauce and add spices
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Buy a 1/2 bucket of wheat, each meal time eat a cup of boiled wheat add yoghurt and beaten egg every other day
Buy 1/2 a bucket of un milled barley grain pop it in a pan like popcorn after using fat off the meat
for greens use netttles , wild garlic , yarrow etc
For meat snare rabbits , pheasants partridge etc
For desserts eat boiled wood lice and then lightly fry them or use reasonably fresh road kill
buy a tin of evap milk add a few spoons of it to the creeded wheat he wood lice once a day
Drink clean cold water
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If I was desperate I could do all of the above i think, *except* the wood lice! xD I know insects are a great source of protein in a survival situation but I just can't get my brain to accept it in my mouth! lol.
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If I was desperate I could do all of the above i think, *except* the wood lice! xD I know insects are a great source of protein in a survival situation but I just can't get my brain to accept it in my mouth! lol.
if you fry them lightly in a dry pan then mush up whats left you get a protein paste thats easier to swallow and just as healthy!!!
you do need a lot of woodlice to make a difference though!!!
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On the contrary Bloomer, I suspect a little woodlouse would go a very long way.......
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what about slugs? I can find loads of them and they are easy to catch :thinking:
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slugs are about the most inedible thing you will ever come across, they just taste bad!!!
river cottage did a piece on them in one of their series and the consensus was anything was better than slug!!!
snails on the other hand...
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Shame, I can " grow" them :innocent:
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I have one phobia in life and its those little scuttly things you are talking about eating!! I go to pieces if one so much as comes near me, my 9 yr old picks them up and chases me round the house with them ick ick ick.
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They are repulsive to me too, poor little unloved things ::) , I force myself to turn over stones, pots and logs to collect them and feed them to the hens, they sometimes are not that keen either, don't blame them. Anyway, I would have t hought they would taste nice after eating loads of my salad leaves last year ::)
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The 'test' is to get by on £5 for 1 week 'buying' food in i believe ? Therefore eating roadkill , bugs , or any 'free' food would be a different test .
My spag bol had 'free' , home grown , garlic in , so i would need to add the cost of this to the list , +.30p , taking the total to about £5.64 , i think ?
This could easily be taken down to the £5 limit by removing some mince , or buying less .
I am not trying to do the test though , i live my own test as it is already lol .
Eating bugs etc , is a very different test .
If i had to live on roadkill , i would be dead in a week , not enough where i am . However , could i survive on what i could find in hedgerow and woodland and what i could catch then yes , very easily , although it would be a very different diet to the norm , and i don't do bugs , absolutely no need to in the uk . That is purely for 'tv look what i can do' types .
I live in a very rural area , so it is easy for me to do this , but i grew up in London , and learnt how to 'survive' in the wild there , so it is possible to do even in urban areas .
It would be a very different 'test' though if 9 million Londoners were trying at the same time !
I think i would rather stay where i am and continue my own test thankyou very much lol .
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There was a women who put a list of places to eat free, forgot her name but she even put things like events that were going on, she suggested looking them up as often in the city there are taste testings, grand openings of galleries or shops etc, I know a lot of supermarkets do free drink fill ups, if you could smuggle a flask in ::) , then you could get at least 2 cups for later!!! You could also gate crash a few local wedding receptions I suppose, nip in quick with your posh hat and suit on and there you are, even in restaurants people leave untouched food, so that's another town/city option, although you often need a bit of money to get into them. I suppose you could also door knock and ask :thinking: then run off pretty quick or go to visit hospitals or residential homes and see who's got grapes and asleep :) Sit near the chip or fast food shop and accidently bump into people, say sorry but franticly pick up some chips or sausage as they fall, and of course bins ::) Night sleepers get food deliveries by charities, my husband regularly took stuff around in Oxford and in London. In a resturant you could order a tea and sit near the kitchen door and do the same as outside the chippy, well until you get rumbled and thrown out!
AND....although bits are serious, no way would I do any of the above....just kidding
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Freegans have a good idea I reckon...if only the supermarkets didn't squirt washing up liquid over all the 'wonky carrots' or tinned beans that are one day out of sell by.... ::)
There is a supermarket that also does banking that doesn't do this. Or lock the bins :innocent: :innocent:
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I was going to ask who but too stiff to get into any bin so I will leave it to fitter and more in need ::) , its such a shame so much goes to waste though ( and mine) we just did our bargain shop and am eating a lovely king prawn coctail with 10p salads and tomatoes and very cheap prawns, we lived in Leicester and the market there was super, very cheap at the end of the day!!
I am loving this post, getting some good ideas :thumbsup:
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Sandy, goo on, go for it, see if you can eat from bins for a week, keep a photo diary on here, I'm excited by it, please, go on, go on, go on, you know you can do it
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I would ask where but I dare not even try as I would get stuck! :roflanim:
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Sandy, goo on, go for it, see if you can eat from bins for a week, keep a photo diary on here, I'm excited by it, please, go on, go on, go on, you know you can do it
;D
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We did get a lot of 10p stuff again last night, just happened to go at the right time, no meat but plenty of bread, veg and salad, I just hate paying £1 for leaves :innocent: ....I have loads of chocolate stuff and i am not a fan of chocolate, prefer fruit flavors, but beggers cannot be choosers, I got loads of lovely cake flans for 10p a pack of 6, they are in the freezer to be filled at a later date with fruit, jelly glaze and a dob of cream!!!!
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When I lived by myself I would shop every evening after work. Basically I lived on offers and would batch cook stews or soup if meat was on offer. Nothing in the larder or fridge most days. Some nights I would wake hungry and have a Rivita with apricot jam. When my daughter visited I bought croissants for her breakfast and put out the near finished apricot jam . My daughter informed me that the obscure labelled jar was mago chutney.
So - although I lost 3 stone living from hand to mouth and saved shed loads of money I did eat some odd stuff and very unusual combinations of food. It became the norm for me but surprised my daughter and any visitors who would be offered whatever I had and gherkins ( always had them!!). :excited:
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man cannot live without gherkins. on that we agree.
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;D yep eating a few gherkins when hungry is enough to put you off other food for a good few hours - and they are cheap. Maybe instead of soup kitchens or food banks there should be Gherkin Bars.
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man cannot live without gherkins. on that we agree.
why would anyone eat pickled frogs???
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Pickled frogs ? No straight over my head that one.
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gherkins might as well be pickled frog for all i care to eat them...
we refer to the gherkin slices in burgers as sliced pickled dead frog, pickled gherkins are nasty!!!
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I love the gherkin slices in burgers!! A pregnancy craving that never went away gherkins...
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i grew 2 plants and now have jars of them everywhere, all different sizes, in different vinegars, yummy.
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Well, we went off to buy something for tea and WOWOWO, we have a freezer stocked to bursting with 10p stuff and although the meat was only reduced, I got so many veg for 10p so tomorrow going to make a huge stew and freeze it, the fruit is mainly blue berries and raspberried, loads and loads of them for 10p a punnet, they were nearer to £3 at the real price, yesterdays sponge flan cases at 10p for 6 are going together for a great pud......so, our little shop ended up a big shop and all well not the meat, 10p...we spendt £20 alltogether...bumped into a lovely lady :innocent: that must have done a bit of her sentance for mudering her boyfriend too ...... :innocent:
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;D yep eating a few gherkins when hungry is enough to put you off other food for a good few hours - and they are cheap. Maybe instead of soup kitchens or food banks there should be Gherkin Bars.
I often get a couple of gherkins out of the jar if Im hungry, I just LOVE them. Ive also found Aldi instant cup a soups over here, 75 cents for 5, the mushroom one is superb as is the onion one, just like french onion soup with cheese on the top. Great on a cold day when you've come in from the animals.
Ive just had a bowl of chicken curry made from bits of last night's chook, onion, peas, mushrooms and salsify. Ive just discovered salsify, I buy it frozen over here. Its great in stews and things like that. YUM!
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I do NOT like gherkins. I'd rather be hungry.
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I don't do waistcoats either ! lol
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Not much I don't like, Easily pleased pleased :innocent:
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The goal posts are slightly different if you are feeding more than one. I assume you can change that to £15 for three people, which makes it slightly easier regarding quantities etc.
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Dairy farmer Richard Gibson swaps the damp surroundings of Devon to live and work (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01rfy31/Toughest_Place_to_be_a..._Series_4_Farmer/#) with Samburu tribesmen in the parched and desolate mountains of northern Kenya. lived on blood and milk for 6 months
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Now milk and honey I could cope with, but milk and blood? YUK!!
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Black pudding ?
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we watched that but not from the start and I was amazed that they do not eat thier animals but just drink thier blood, I thought how healthy and wonderful they looked, beats walking around in muddy wellies with a dirty green coat on!!!
Anyway, its our 3rd day of stew, still more to come........ :innocent:
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Muddy wellies and a dirty green coat ? That's me ! Nothing else , just muddy wellies and a dirty green coat !
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We need a flasher smiley :innocent: , I however have several jumpers, brown, blue or black trousers and of course my undies.......then, under it all, a good layer of fat!!
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Very important that good layer of fat.
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gherkins might as well be pickled frog for all i care to eat them...
we refer to the gherkin slices in burgers as sliced pickled dead frog, pickled gherkins are nasty!!!
You've not lived till you've eaten gerkins or pickled frogs ;)
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For all those who thought my £5 survival menu's are cheating because they are basically free and therefore not allowed, would it make any difference if I charged you 5p per food group .? ;D
you could also pay the farmer 50 p and ask if he'd let you take a drink or three from the milking goats , sheep and cows
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:thumbsup: , lots of people used to take a swig of milk when milk bottles were commonly left on doorsteps in the morning...
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:thumbsup: , lots of people used to take a swig of milk when milk bottles were commonly left on doorsteps in the morning...
.....and blame it on bluetits pinching the cream haha
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I remember that we often found punctured bottle tops where birds were taking the milk!
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Not sure many people still have milk delivery like they used to, I also had bread left on my door step, I suppose we could all use our wits for cheap or free food but you have to have plenty of time, not be disabled and not have to spend a fortune getting to your free food..
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Can it be done? ??? ? Watch this space. :excited:
Have you done the challenge yet rispainfarm? Would love to hear how you managed.
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For all those who thought my £5 survival menu's are cheating because they are basically free and therefore not allowed, would it make any difference if I charged you 5p per food group .? ;D
you could also pay the farmer 50 p and ask if he'd let you take a drink or three from the milking goats , sheep and cows
I can just see people lying under goats suckling them... It's not on, it's wierd
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:roflanim: :roflanim: :roflanim:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22263706 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22263706)
The "official" challenge starts on Monday.
As usual, the story the BBC has on that is just a nice little exercise... They don't say where I can buy a slice of bread for 3p, or a quarter courgette. And they don't mention that if you buy more and freeze the rest, the freezer doesn't come free - you have to buy it, run it, and rent a place that's big enough so you can keep it somewhere... Oh, and the prices are all for big supermarkets - Morrisons 10 miles from here, Tesco 14 miles, Sainsbury and Asda even further. And they never count the cost of cooking.
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I reckon I could do it, but I'd have to dust my wires off and apparently, thats not allowed. Booooo.
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Just started today, will keep you all informed. Sorry for the late reply, have not been on AS for a while :o :-[
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22263706 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22263706)
The "official" challenge starts on Monday.
As usual, the story the BBC has on that is just a nice little exercise... They don't say where I can buy a slice of bread for 3p, or a quarter courgette. And they don't mention that if you buy more and freeze the rest, the freezer doesn't come free - you have to buy it, run it, and rent a place that's big enough so you can keep it somewhere... Oh, and the prices are all for big supermarkets - Morrisons 10 miles from here, Tesco 14 miles, Sainsbury and Asda even further. And they never count the cost of cooking.
you are never going to do things anally, for the very fact that we live in a westernised country and are dependant on so many things. I don't think the council would be happy if you went killing sheep etc and cooked them everynight over a fire in the garden ;) But even taking in that fact, finding food coming to no more than a fiver a week is a tall order.
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:thumbsup: Good luck, our freezer is still well stocked with 10p stuff.....so we do eat cheaply......
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:thumbsup: Good luck, our freezer is still well stocked with 10p stuff.....so we do eat cheaply......
And how much did the freezer cost you - and how much does it cost running it - and, proportionally, the rent oh the space it takes up in your house?
I think it's a bit simplistic to just count the cost of the food you pay in the shops. Oh yes, how much did it cost you to travel to the shops where you can buy stuff so cheaply?
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I do see your point Ina......not many people could get the deals we get, its a bit hit and miss, the freezer was from my mother in law when she moved so we did not pay, although we did buy another when we ran the B&B, that was a necessity, the shop is 3 -4 miles away and thats where we would go for our food anyway, but we go about once evey 2 weeks and stock up, although sometimes we pop into the co op across the road, the cost of running it is an additional cost but compensates for the travel I suppose, then its in our garage....our house has loads of space.........cooking any food is costly.....we have to live cheaply, although for some strange reason we get loads of chocolate stuff, when my family were over we had the hugest chocolate cake rueduced to 10p, my daughters were gob smacked....I have loads of photos!!!! anyway, I mostly make stew or cook up fruit to use for later.
Just want to add, I have grown my own veg before but not at the moment but maybe in the future, we also had some chickens to fatten and they worked out just about the same as good quality bought ones, I love rhubarb but find its far too expensive so buy the tins that save both in energy and sugar......hope our next house has some in the garden :innocent: ....I could go on the bus as I have a bus pass, but I don't.
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How do you manage to buy so many things for 10p? I never see bargains like that.
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MGM, we tend to go shopping late, often between 7.30 to 8.00pm then they reduce all sorts of stuff, I bought loads of pancakes for 6p for a pack of 6, never do I buy them usually as they are so easy to make but at a 1p each an instant pud or breakfast, I have nearly finished off all the punnets of blue berries, also 10p each, I mixed and stewed them with forest fruits that I picked while dog walking in our local forest, they were lovely. Never seem to get much meat, but still buy reduced price meat, I now also batch cook, tonight a Shepard's pie is coming out the freezer, I made a few a while ago so its like an instant meal with additional veg, We also finished off the last of our curried lamb, it lasted 4 nights, last night I used it up with roasted veg and new potatoes, a very cheap meal..........any way, just ask at supermarkets when they reduce stuff, they may tell you.......I hope to get some flowers, its been a few weeks now but bunches of flowers get reduced too....Its not a case of being mean, its a case of having very little money!!
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I used to shop in the evenings and very occasionally got bargains like that but not often. I supose it depends on the supermarket. I don't think it's mean. Why pay more than you have to?
Just remembered a butcher's I used to go to who had an 'auction' on a Monday evening. It was more like a market stall with him calling out what the next item was and the first hand up got it. I bought many a one legged chicken or even legless ones for next to nothing. It was entertaining as well.
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Stolen vegetable soup for a week. According to a certain double barrel shoplifting, limp wristed chef . :innocent: A.W.T
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Just remembered a butcher's I used to go to who had an 'auction' on a Monday evening. It was more like a market stall with him calling out what the next item was and the first hand up got it. I bought many a one legged chicken or even legless ones for next to nothing. It was entertaining as well.
We used to shop at Leicester Market, after 3.00pm I think? the meat was also reduced, the meat was good as well, the stall had a great reputation and there were always ques. Fruit and Veg were also sold off cheap, trouble is, things were usually fairly ripe but now I just stew veg or make soups (not free help yourself to some ones veg that's growing ;) ) or stewed fruit or drinks. Fish was also very cheap there, not sure if its half as good as it was but I used to work near to it so could fill the car up easily!!!!
Got loads of bargains again last night..........we took the dogs for a later walk then they sat in the car/van, while we shopped, the total bill was £10 and in the contents were cubed Beef, reduced from £7 down to £1.75, then a bag of 4 rainbow trout, that was 89p, chopped cubed pork95p,, loads of different posh breads all at 10p a loaf, herbs, and loads of pre packed veg ready to make Scotch Broth, they did say produce of Scotland on the bags too........We also managed to get some cake and some pack up.....I was amazed at how good we can eat and there was virtually no one else taking the stuff, although the meat did go quickly!!!!! :innocent:
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Wow - what a host of goodies for a bargain price. Lucky you, I never seem to be in the supermarket when these deals happen and if I am, it's like the gates at an Easyjet departure lounge before they brought in reserved seating! ;D
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we went in one day last week and I wanted flowers for the house, we are selling and flowers add to the look, anyway, we ended up with£27 worth of flowers for 60p. Just the job. :thumbsup: ...strangely, very few people are around when we go...must be when something goods on the TV :thumbsup:
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I think I'm going to have to shop just before closing time. Trouble is, my OH is half dead after dinner and I can't manage to shop on my own. What can I suggest to make him feel shopping is worthwhile? :innocent: :eyelashes:
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10p bargains :excited:
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My grandmother was raised in a family of 15 children with only the wage of her father (one of the Lord Mayor of London's coachmen) to support them, until the children reached the age of 6, when they were put to work scrubbing doorsteps for the richer folks in the neighbourhood. On Friday the older children took a penny to the soup kitchen for the family's evening meal and on Saturday they went along the gutters of the local street market when the stalls had packed up, to collect vegetable trimmings to take home for the stockpot .....
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10p bargains :excited:
It'd take more than the promise of 10p bargains to shift him.
Marches Farmer, it's amazing that some families survived as well as they did. I wonder if all fifteen children made it to adulthood.
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Wow Marches Farmer, that's super scrimping, mind you, the amount of stuff wasted now is criminal, last night we bought more 10p stuff but there were piles of Asparagus, not that keen but its obviously not that popular here and goes off quick.
Steve will go out any time if he thinks he will get a bargain.........our house is now full of flowers thanks to Steve and I have to do the arrangements :innocent:
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Hole in the road, luxury, we had a paper bag.....etc... :innocent: http://youtu.be/Xe1a1wHxTyo (http://youtu.be/Xe1a1wHxTyo)
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:roflanim: , we were not wealthy as a family but we did get some meals from the local Mental Hospital :innocent: , mum was a nurse and she was allowed to bring home any unused food......Mum was a good cook though.
I also remember when I owned a cafe with my mum and collecting pig swill for the local farmer, then I also remember working in catering and we could take any left overs, my best mate cycled home with a tub on soup on her bike but fell off, awful mess!!!!
Then the chip and batter bits and the broken biscuits from Woolworth's!!
All this take home stuff is not allowed now.....were we all more frequently ill years ago?
Quite honestly, due to a very tight budget, some foods cost more to prepare than processed foods, an example would be bought Rhubarb, you need to use power to cook it and add sugar, the tin stuff is nice and no cooking or sugar, in fact I made a crumble with a small amount of fresh and some tins stuff and I could not tell. Hope I can grow some one day :innocent:
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I've just made strawberry jelly with rhubarb. :yum: :yum:
I always bulk cook when I can to save fuel. I did enough rhubarb for several puds. It freezes well once cooked.
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Love the stuff, whats tall and thin, covered in skin, pink in parts and shoved in tarts? :innocent: