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Growing => Vegetables => Topic started by: Eagledance on June 24, 2009, 08:54:48 am

Title: Taking the piss!
Post by: Eagledance on June 24, 2009, 08:54:48 am
Ok not sure where to put this!!
Has anyone had any experience of using urine (their own or other peoples) on the garden as a fertiliser?

Andrew ;D
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: sellickbhoy on June 24, 2009, 09:07:21 am
i have the occasional pee on the compost heap

if you want to use it as a liquid fertiliser you need to dilute it about 10-1

don't use it on your carrots, they don't like too much nitrogen.
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: rustyme on June 24, 2009, 12:52:05 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=6xPqyF9CVRE

hello Andrew,
                the above link is for a video about the use of an ecosan toilet . Zen has a great setup on the roof of his house . Greywater filter with phragmites that supplies water to his rice paddy and then the ecosan loo . He has a few videos on his system , and all are very interesting .   As for the wee, as already stated , use it on plants diluted 10-1 or even down to 20-1, or use it one the compost heap direct . It is stated that mens pee is better than womens , something to do with hormones I expect ? but either are ok to use . There may be a problem with anyone who is on the pill . That sounds like a silly statement , but even water treatment plants can't sort that problem out  !!!! hence big problems with fish in rivers. So as long as the person who is providing the pee isn't on any heavy medication , then all should be fine . The same applies id you were to use the ecosan loo, or compost loo if you prefer. As long as the contributors aren't on heavy meds  then all should be ok . I use a compost loo and can state that it does work without any smell or any flies at all . It uses no water , doesn't pollute the rivers or the sea, and supplies nutrients back too the land rather than taking them away. If you don't fancy using it on veg you could use it on comfrey or willow. However , after 2 years composting , it is almost exactly the same as potting compost, no matter who's bum it came out of.   

cheers

Russ   
 
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: sellickbhoy on June 24, 2009, 01:05:54 pm
a composting toilet is on my list of things to investigate this year (i almost said "to look into" but I think that might be boak inducing!!!)

Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: northfifeduckling on June 24, 2009, 01:53:49 pm
I have asked my OH to wee on the compost heap (don't like to do it myself because of the nettles lol), apparently it's a catalyst. Also around the fence to keep foxes away, can't blame them that they don't like the smell! :&>
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: Fluffywelshsheep on June 24, 2009, 04:58:42 pm
hiya all it'll only work with male pee not female pee, it all about the hormones that blokes produces and not  the female kind sorry

Linz
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: rustyme on June 24, 2009, 05:18:52 pm
it does still do the same job Linz, male or female , just that womens wee tends to have extra hormones . There is no proof, either way, that I have seen, that womens wee harms any more than mens ? just that the pill does do harm and is hard to filter out . People with kidney problems shouldn't be used to supply it for direct use as a fertiliser either , but I haven't read any definitive proof that it is harmfull if composted properly. The Chinese have used it for thousands of years , both direct and composted , and they seem ok on it so far... ::) ;D

cheers

Russ
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: Rosemary on June 24, 2009, 08:11:32 pm
Dan pees in the compost bin - I thought it was just a teritory thing ;D

I've never tried it - balancing on the top of the bin would be positively dangerous!
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: Eagledance on June 24, 2009, 08:35:49 pm
 :D

now there's an image!!


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Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: Wellieboots on June 25, 2009, 11:57:29 am
Yup, deffo a pee-er into the compost bin......and any weeds that I don't like the look of that lurk on the gravel & aren't edible!
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: garden cottage on June 25, 2009, 05:29:15 pm
centre for alternative technology has been using compost loo's and urine for years do some very good leaflets on it.......................neil
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: Greenerlife on June 29, 2009, 11:41:12 am
I am going to try that weeing on a straw bale composting thing this year - just really interested to see what happens!

I always get my other half to pee down rabbit holes to deter them - but fortunately girl pee doesn't work for that!
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: xxmillyxx on June 29, 2009, 12:07:28 pm
OH always pee's in the compost heap when he's working outside.

Even the dogs pee on it now !?!
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: moorlandman on September 01, 2009, 06:15:52 pm
Hi Folks,

I was wondering if the 'Hops' content of my wee wee would be beneficial or not.

Who's round is it now !!

Cheers

Terry ;)
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: little blue on September 01, 2009, 08:56:16 pm
I am going to try that weeing on a straw bale composting thing this year - just really interested to see what happens!

I always get my other half to pee down rabbit holes to deter them - but fortunately girl pee doesn't work for that!
Blimey, imagine the shock when crouching and a damp bunny pops up!!!!
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: little blue on September 01, 2009, 08:59:47 pm
What I really meant to say was....
O/H insists on peeing strategically round our property to 'keep the foxes away'
I think he's just too idle to go in to pee cos I make him take his boots off!

 :peas:  (pee !)
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: marigold on September 01, 2009, 09:19:32 pm
We live in our shed at the moment while we're building a house so we are forced into having a portaloo to keep the council happy. Simon and I pee into a bucket and pour it onto the straw from the hen sheds on the compost heap once or twice a week. Its a bit smelly but you  can almost see the compost happening. The kids pretend not to notice and only use the portaloo.
Apparently pee is particularly good for stawberries. Did you know that the world's supply of phosphates is running out and human pee is a great source. Also by peeing into buckets or directly onto the compost heap you are saving loads of water from entering the overloaded sewage system needlessly
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Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: Farmer on September 01, 2009, 10:13:08 pm
Quote - Also by peeing into buckets or directly onto the compost heap you are saving loads of water from entering the overloaded sewage system needlessly

A bit embarrassing if you happen to have close neighbours I would think!

Farmer  :-[
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Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: Unicorn on September 01, 2009, 10:43:04 pm
(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Animals/sheep1.gif)

So now we have to teach all the animals too
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: marigold on September 01, 2009, 11:04:55 pm
Yep close neighbours could object. there is probably even a law against bareing your bum even on your own land.
Luckily my neighbours are not close. I have to admit that in a small garden the smell of the urine soaked compost heap would be bad thing.
I wouldn't want to have a BBQ within 20 feet.

Title: Re: Taking the piss!
Post by: Troubled Waters on September 10, 2009, 08:40:41 am
Don't know about the compost heap but we stayed with a family in NZ that asked us to pee on the lemon trees if we needed to go! 

As they obviously didn't keep the composting toilet going properly and it stank so much it made you heave peeing outside was far preferable.  For that and many other reasons we only stayed one night and refer to the experience as the 'Scabber-Van Ordeal'.  *shudder*
  :o :o :o :o