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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: Sunnybank on October 28, 2012, 02:19:43 pm

Title: what breed is this please
Post by: Sunnybank on October 28, 2012, 02:19:43 pm
 :wave:
hi everyone,


we went for a drive into Wales yesterday and visited Llyn Clywedog Reservoir. Saw lots of gorgeous white sheep, not too big, some had horns and some didnt, can anyone tell me what breed they are please  :fc:
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: shetlandpaul on October 28, 2012, 02:25:44 pm
it looks like a shetland to me. its just getting its powder poof cheeks.
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Hermit on October 28, 2012, 03:26:45 pm
The far one could be a Shetland easily , but a poor one with a bare face and loose fleece. It should have real side burns and a tight roo to be a good one . Not to be kept as a ram but meat I should hope. It was a.fact that the Welsh bought a LOT of Shetlands at the sales for as little as £16.00 earlier in the month so could easily be one of those.
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Sunnybank on October 28, 2012, 04:16:25 pm
well thats a surprise - i have some shetlands myself but didnt think it was like mine ,the fleece looked different and maybe because i have not seen a white one and only have girls at the moment, feeling bad now i didnt recognise them  :-[
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Fleecewife on October 28, 2012, 04:30:18 pm
South Wales Mountain?  Welsh Mountain?  Or a cross of those?
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Mallows Flock on October 28, 2012, 04:58:41 pm
Shetland x conmmercial ram... I have some that look nearly identical.... Shetland crossed to a Charollais' (mine are)... these look slightly less arrow-headed in the face so doubt a Charollais x...more a lleyn!
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: jaykay on October 28, 2012, 05:14:59 pm
I wondered about a Welsh Mountain, or a cross, she's not quite like my Shetlands, even the ones wihtout the woolliest sideburns. Certainly she's small compared with that Suffolk tup!
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: VSS on October 28, 2012, 05:33:03 pm
Very few welsh mountain ewes have horns like that.
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: shep53 on October 28, 2012, 05:45:48 pm
Brecknock hill cheviot pure or crossed wether / ram lamb, not a female looking head ????
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Fleecewife on October 28, 2012, 05:49:38 pm
Sunnybank - you'll have to go back and ask them  8)
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Dogwalker on October 28, 2012, 05:57:30 pm
Tell me which farm it was on and I'll ask my neighbour what the farmer keeps.  Probably a cousin or school mate or something.

If you come back drop in for a cuppa you must have passed close by to get there!
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Anke on October 28, 2012, 06:22:12 pm
unlikely to be Shetland because a) females on the mainland very rarely have horns and b) it's got a very long tail. Could be across of any of the dozen possibilties already discussed above...
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: jaykay on October 28, 2012, 06:30:37 pm
Aha, a long tail. Well spotted Anke  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: woollyval on October 28, 2012, 06:37:37 pm
unlikely to be Shetland because a) females on the mainland very rarely have horns and b) it's got a very long tail. Could be across of any of the dozen possibilties already discussed above...

I thought that....when I had some pedigree shetlands none of the ewes were horned! I reckon its a xbreed
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: jaykay on October 28, 2012, 07:24:57 pm
I thought that even in Shetland crosses, the tail remained short?
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Anke on October 28, 2012, 08:34:05 pm
I thought that even in Shetland crosses, the tail remained short?
Yep, at least the crosses I have done have a fairly short tail, but not fluke shaped anymore.
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: shetlandpaul on October 28, 2012, 08:41:13 pm
well spotted that tail is defiantly not shetland.  however there are horned ewes up here we have some. but those horns are not shetland ewes horns.
a couple of ours have hornssee below
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Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: bangbang on October 28, 2012, 08:46:34 pm
Great pic! Paul, luvely markings! :thumbsup:
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Post by: SallyintNorth on October 28, 2012, 08:47:12 pm
Great pic! Paul, luvely markings! :thumbsup:

Yuklet?
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: shetlandpaul on October 28, 2012, 08:47:51 pm
our ram and his sister
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/554214_502923056385166_304175821_n.jpg)
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: shetlandpaul on October 28, 2012, 08:51:23 pm
no idea. wifes area. we try for flecket but anything can turn up. acouple from last year the last from our bad ram
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/389552_502925453051593_133462041_n.jpg)
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: bangbang on October 28, 2012, 09:02:33 pm
Paul, my OH, Brucklay, luv's the Jacob look-a-like...she said she will meet
your lamb off the boat in Aberdeen harbour!...a possible sale then!  ;D
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: shetlandpaul on October 28, 2012, 09:10:13 pm
sadly sold last year. marion slater has a great flockof them. infact she has that one.
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Sunnybank on October 28, 2012, 09:39:54 pm
lovely pictures shetlandpaul - i love all the colours of shetlands,
Dogwalker, not sure which farm it was other than we were just over half way on the scenic drive, quite a lot of sheep around tho  ;D
Fleecewife i tried talking to the sheep but they only said Baaa with a welsh accent  :D
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: dyedinthewool on October 28, 2012, 10:19:42 pm
Ram looks like a Suffolk - ewe looks like some sort of mountain type saw some like that at crymach a few weeks ago.
Love that coloured baby
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Fleecewife on October 28, 2012, 11:05:55 pm

Fleecewife i tried talking to the sheep but they only said Baaa with a welsh accent  :D

 :roflanim: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep:
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Dogwalker on October 29, 2012, 11:46:17 am
Dogwalker, not sure which farm it was other than we were just over half way on the scenic drive, quite a lot of sheep around tho  ;D
Fleecewife i tried talking to the sheep but they only said Baaa with a welsh accent  :D

 
Just a few about and it's definately not pronounced 'baa'   :D
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: SteveHants on October 29, 2012, 12:58:47 pm
Its a bit wooly, but it looks a hell of a lot like some of my Wilts Horn  x Lleyn ram lambs.
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: shetlandpaul on October 29, 2012, 03:24:07 pm
looks like its been tupped so lets hope its a ewe
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: SteveHants on October 29, 2012, 04:48:42 pm
You still get the odd ewe horned like that but its mostly the rams. Ill try and take a pic tomorrow
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Mallows Flock on October 29, 2012, 08:59:49 pm
Some of my Shetland crosses have short Shetland tails, some long. Some horned, some naturally polled!
The face looks pretty Texel-ish!
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: moony on October 29, 2012, 10:12:06 pm
Looks very similar to some of our smaller Texel x Hebridean lambs. I would imagine its a texel or lleyn sire with a welsh ewe
Title: Re: what breed is this please
Post by: Sylvia on October 30, 2012, 07:34:33 am
My first thought was Whitefaced Woodland?