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Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: Brijjy on October 03, 2012, 07:03:35 pm
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I'm just going on the forums that I belong to to keep this little girl in everyones thoughts. Please can you all keep your fingers :fc: and everything else crossed that she is found soon. Anyone near Machynlleth especially have a poke around outbuildings, old cottages, bothys etc. I know you've probably done this already but it doesn't hurt to have another look. Thanks.
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The problem with looking for someone around here is just the shear scale of woodlands & moors etc which could take ages to search if she has been taken a bit further.
My prayers are for her safe recovery.
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:fc: For her safe return, poor little thing.
Can't imagine what they are going through.
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Been watching the news. This guy they have apprehended appears to have a number of children all over the area - is it possible he is her father and has removed her from her mother for some reason? I hope that is the simple answer and that she is safe and well. :fc: She couldn't survive in those hills in this weather, poor wee thing :'( :'(.
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2190112&l=d133db81ea&id=530677783613699 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2190112&l=d133db81ea&id=530677783613699)
http://news.sky.com/story/992482/live-updates-on-april-jones-search (http://news.sky.com/story/992482/live-updates-on-april-jones-search)
its just terrible. please share
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This is so tragic...plz let her be found safe and well ... :fc:
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She's never far from my thoughts at the moment. I have a daughter the same age and cant even begin to think how her mother feels, its too unbearable. :fc: for a happy ending.
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i know, my daughters r 4 and 6, the thought is soo terrible.
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The night the news broke I had scarlett (who is 5) sleeping in my bed as she'd had nightmares about the world ending. I happened to read the BBC news on my blackberry at 3am as I couldnt' sleep, gave her the tightest cuddle I could without waking her. I really feel for the parents and family of April, I hope she is safe and not suffering an awful ordeal, its just too awful.
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If it's this Mark Bridger chap that had her I don't understand how they can't get the information out of him. If there is a God I hope he or she is keeping that poor wee soul safe
I've just read that she has cerebral palsy , makes it even worse
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She has been in my thoughts ever since she went missing. :'(
Daughters head teacher warned the children to be extra careful .... suppose Mach. isn't that far from here and her posters are in the shops. The area is so difficult to search. Such a task for them to find her.
Doganjo- It makes the blood boil to think he may know and not tell. That is supposing they have the right person.
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I know Annie :'( And last night, My Eloise who's only 9 said "But mum, if that man that has been arrested has hidden her somewhere and he's now with the police - who's feeding her and giving her drinks?". Oh its just so sad and horrible.
Also, we all teach our little ones about 'stranger danger' when we feel they are old enough and so's not to scare them but what this man isn't a stranger - how the HECK do we go about warning them not to trust the people they think they can?!
sorry, I know this is a thread to keep April in peoples thoughts, I shouldn't be putting these comments perhaps as its speculation and may not help the case.
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What puzzles me is that the first report asid she went into the drivers side of a light coloured van. Even small children would know the difference between that and a blue landrover surely? I know it is a left hand drive so feasible she'd go in teh wrong side, but even so..........
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I know Annie :'( And last night, My Eloise who's only 9 said "But mum, if that man that has been arrested has hidden her somewhere and he's now with the police - who's feeding her and giving her drinks?". Oh its just so sad and horrible.
Also, we all teach our little ones about 'stranger danger' when we feel they are old enough and so's not to scare them but what this man isn't a stranger - how the HECK do we go about warning them not to trust the people they think they can?!
sorry, I know this is a thread to keep April in peoples thoughts, I shouldn't be putting these comments perhaps as its speculation and may not help the case.
I've been wondering about food and drink as well. Maybe he has an accomplice.
I think you need to teach children not to go with anyone unless Mummy or Daddy has said it's alright, even if the grown up says they've been told to fetch you.
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I asked Scarlett what car Grandad drives..she said "eerr a small white one?" - its a silver jaguar. I think children of that age don't understand car makes etc? unless, of course, it was another vehicle altogether in this case.
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If it's this Mark Bridger chap that had her I don't understand how they can't get the information out of him
Too much political correctness and CCTV cameras. Old-style bobbies would have got it out of him! I don't normally advocate violence but if they've got the right chap and he's either hurt that little maid or hidden her and isn't telling.......
Was there something about him being a friend of the family and falling out with them last week? Please God he is just scaring the family and the little maid is safe somewhere!
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Electrodes to the testicles...need I say more?
While the police are pussyfooting around being PC, that poor little mite is out there all alone. If she is found alive, I will dance around the garden in glee in the pouring rain, but I do have a nasty feeling about this after all this time.
My thoughts are with the family at what must be an impossible time.
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Yes wondered if that was it - the landrover was found in a repair garage.
All of us and half the country are worried about this wee lass, I wonder if we'll get to hear what has happened to her :gloomy:
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I have just heard that 24 hours before little April disappeared, a car with a man driver/lady passenger attempted to get 2 children (7 and 11) to climb in. The children ran away.
Could this mean that April is 'safe' with a lady looking after her somewhere while the man is in custody? Really hope so. It could be the best of a whole series of awful alternatives.
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Also, we all teach our little ones about 'stranger danger' when we feel they are old enough and so's not to scare them but what this man isn't a stranger - how the HECK do we go about warning them not to trust the people they think they can?!
sorry, I know this is a thread to keep April in peoples thoughts, I shouldn't be putting these comments perhaps as its speculation and may not help the case.
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Our school has taught the kids to "run, yell and tell" but I dont like to talk to my son about it much as he worries about stuff. Its so hard to know what to do for the best but I do think we have to educate them, Maybe talking about April will stop another child getting into a strangers car. But then, was it a stranger?[/quote]
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Yes, it's really difficult.
I was talking to my 11 yr old daughter about it and how can they really understand. Mine want to know why anyone would want to take a little child and what for. Well how can you try to explain that.
Also the thing about it being someone possibly known by the child. We live in a tiny very close community and mine do see neighbours almost as family. They are older now and listen to news reports ... I can see their confusion.
I went through, as I always have, the yell, run and tell , with mine again last night. They asked about people they knew and I said that if someone they knew well asked them to go with them, then they come and ask us first and that if that person was genuine they wouldn't mind that at all. NEVER go without asking. Also told them that things like this are very rare.
Trouble is that you can never really tell how a young child will react when put in a situation. My daughter comes home on a school minibus and one day I got a call from a mother at the school to say she had taken my daughter back to her house, half an hour drive from here, to play with her child. It was not arranged and I am not close friends with the mum. It caused some chaos and distress - she wasn't on the bus, people assumed that I must have collected her, etc. My daughter is quite a mature, sensible girl and I was surprised that she had just gone like that. ??? She said she felt awkward saying no to the parent. You can imagine how our discussion of the event went.
Okay the parent had no ill intentions but it did show me how easily a child may go with someone they know (and not that well). She was 10 at the time and an intelligent girl ..... spoken to quite a lot about dangers etc.
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Just released on http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19843337 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19843337)
Looks like a grim search for a body now so sad :'( Unless that by arresting him on suspicion of murder they hope that any accomplice involved will bring her to the police to save his neck.
Mandy :pig:
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Oh I so hope you are right, Mandy.
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The sad thing is in these cases recovery of a live child after more than 24hrs is a very unlikely outcome...
I cannot put on a public forum, particularly one i want to stay a member of as to what they should do to extract the information from him...
God bless to her poor family they have been in my prayers all week...
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Message from Coral, Aprils mum
"I am not giving up hope and have not been told my daughter is dead yet please stay hopeful!"
Taken from my friend, Sherry's facebook status. She is a friend of the family. God bless them.x
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Hope and optimism are precious things that I have in abundance. Come home little one.
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Me too, there are still all sorts of possibilities
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He has two kids a similar age himself. And he's not indifferent to them or he wouldn't be bothering with their school parents' evening. So I'm hoping he couldn't hurt a kid and pinning my hopes on that shadowy woman and that she has April hidden away somewhere. Mind you, even that, given that the little one needs medication and will be frightened >:(
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they were looking for him specifically from the beginning tho werent they? my guess is that hes on the s/o reg as the cops said they knew he was in the area etc
iv lost a few tears over this one, just heart-breaking.
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I couldn't help but cry when I heard it had turned into a murder invetigation yesterday. I hope your all right and there is a differant explanation but it doesn't look unlikely now. Even if it is now a body they are looking for I so hope they find her soon and get her back where she belongs, with her Mum.
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I'm at alloos to understand how someone who has kids of their own could kill someone else's child. :'( :'( :'( I do hope it's not true.
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The horrible, blood curdling thought that keeps passing through my mind, in this particular week when there was a major news story of a man who was eaten by his pigs, is, well, you can probably guess the rest. If indeed this guy is the right man they are after, he has presumably been saying nothing to the police these last 5 days, as people like this tend to do, eg. Ian Huntley in Soham; the man who murdered Sara Payne, forever in denial of their crime. What better way of getting off the charge than to have disposed of your body without trace, never to be found by all those hundreds of dedicated search teams looking in rivers and woods. Very much hope this is just a nightmarish thought of my own, and that they do find her, or an intact body, to bring a small glimmer of closure for her poor distraught family. Tamsaddle
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They only have until 5pm today to hold him ,
Can I sugest that he is released into the comunity so that the men can " assertain " the truth of where he's put her ,
Just give me an hour with a dentists drill , a hot soldering iron , and some molten lead , he'll talk
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The parents need to have something. Preferably their daughter safe and well but, if not, at least a body to bury.
As he has now been charged with suspicion of murder, can they not hold him for longer? They had the maximum time when he was held under suspicion of abduction. I thought they changed the charge partly to give them extra time.
Actually, he is probably safer in police custody. If they release him, there is not telling what will happen to him.
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Not sure how detailed the coverage is elsewhere in the country but a detective of 40 yrs speaking about the case on our news. said that they are concentrating their search now on a very small section of the river ..... probably due to information discovered during their investigations. He also said that the problem was that the river was very fast flowing. :'( It is all just speculation but he may already have told police where she is. They are not searching at night anymore ...... I fear it will not be good news.
Even if it is the worst, let's hope they can just get her back to her family.
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Just announced that he has been charged with murder and perverting the course of justice. Lets hope they find the body soon
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Rivers tend to give up bodies after a few days. What a dreadful thing to be hoping for :'(
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I know Jaykay, but I guess its what her parents really need now. I can't begin to imagine the pain they are in right now :'(
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They do. Poor folk :hug: :hug: :hug:
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It doesn't bear thinking about, but maybe, for April, it is better if he killed her straight away rather than kept her and abused her first.
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They only have until 5pm today to hold him ,
Can I sugest that he is released into the comunity so that the men can " assertain " the truth of where he's put her ,
Just give me an hour with a dentists drill , a hot soldering iron , and some molten lead , he'll talk
ah the slow approach, i once read a theory about 10 minutes and a pair of mole-grips, in this case i might be prepared to see if it works!!!
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i still say hes got to have history. especially being a lifeguard. u dont go the whole hog on day one. plus he was a soldier so hes trained for anything.
poor poor thing. :love:
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They only have until 5pm today to hold him ,
Can I sugest that he is released into the comunity so that the men can " assertain " the truth of where he's put her ,
Just give me an hour with a dentists drill , a hot soldering iron , and some molten lead , he'll talk
ah the slow approach, i once read a theory about 10 minutes and a pair of mole-grips, in this case i might be prepared to see if it works!!!
Well my suggestion would be to put him on remand, in the 'ordinary' wing of a prison, making it clear to all that he wasn't to be killed.