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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: Moleskins on August 20, 2012, 11:35:22 pm
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Hopefully some happy news, Springer Spaniel due pups in about 3 weeks.
All seems normal and whelping box is at the ready :fc: she uses it as she likes to be :sofa:
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Can't wait to see pics :excited:
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Yay! I love springers - have got 2 (sadly lost 1 a few weeks ago).
Good luck with everything!
Helen
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Good luck - hope everything goes well :fc:
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Thank you all for the good wishes, we've got about 7 to 10 days to go.
What advice would you give me on the run up to whelping or indeed for the actual whelping.
She's been scanned by my sheep man, but I haven't taken her for an x ray as other internet research gave me some doubts about how good it was for the puppies long term. Consequently don't know exactly how many to expect.
How ever many there are we can feel them moving. ;D
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well what worked for me :roflanim: :roflanim: was wait until they are born they way you are not counting chickens well you get the drift :farmer:
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Excellent :thumbsup: I loved our Springer, Sam, even if he was completely bonkers :love:
Yes, x-rays not good for babies of any description.
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Thank you all for the good wishes, we've got about 7 to 10 days to go.
What advice would you give me on the run up to whelping or indeed for the actual whelping.
She's been scanned by my sheep man, but I haven't taken her for an x ray as other internet research gave me some doubts about how good it was for the puppies long term. Consequently don't know exactly how many to expect.
How ever many there are we can feel them moving. ;D
Yes, quite right, x-rays not good for embryos. Didn't your sheep man know how many there were? Even approximately? Mine always does - he's spot on accurate, far more so than any vet, and he's willing to tell you too, which vets won't (in case they get sued for giving you the wrong number ;D) That can be useful in case one gets stuck, or she hasn't the energy to get the last one out or t a placenta is left. You'd need a jab of oxytocin for her if that happens - but it is rare. Let your vet know her due date if you haven't already in case you need his advice.
Have you got a special place for her to whelp in - preferably in a semi dark place and with roll bars along the side to prevent her squashing them? If not it's not too late - you could make holes in a cardboard box and insert dowels slightly longer than the sides. Use newspapers to line it and encourage her to use it as a bed from now on, maybe with her own bedding in there for the moment. She'll scrabble up the newspaper when she's in the second stage. Have small pieces of towelling ready to hold the pups as they come out as they will be very slippery. f this is her first litter she may [panic so you may have to help - when each pup is born make sure the head end of the sac is opened so the pup can breathe, then try to leave her to the rest. Don't let her eat too many placentas as they do make them squitty. You may need to sever the cord, but tear it gently rather than cut it with anything sharp. If you need any advice when I'm on here you are very welcome. Enjoy the experience - it is fascinating, and good luck. Just one last thing - don't let her push for longer than an hour without seeing any result, phone your vet at that point - day or night, it could be crucial and he'll give you best advice. And don't forget photos! :excited:
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Observe her labour from a distance as sometimes owners too close or staring puts them off the job of pushing. They tense and things can slow down.
If things seem slow and nothing after an hour a short few minutes drive in a car can stimulate contractions and birth. But as doganjo says if nothing soon after this then phone a vet.
If your practise is large or uses other out of hours service, contact them to let them know the due day a day or so before hand and that it is your first time so may be ringing during labour for advice. Also check if they use different premises for out of hours so you are familiar with where to go before any problems start and you get stressed. ( it is natural :relief: )
All this covered then you are sure to sail through without any problems ( but we want to see the piccies ;) )
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I've made a whelping box out of plastic cladding so that it's wipeable. She goes in no problem but sneaks out to her usual place behind the sofa given half a chance. Scan showed 4/5 but he couldn't give a certain count, though he's bang on with sheep.
It's her first time and mine with a dog, I'm working on the theory it's like sheep but smaller and no putting hands in (phew).
This is where the forum is a help because you can read and watch video 'til your blue in the face but input here can give a bit of confidence, shouldn't have read all the things that can go wrong!
Looking forward to seeing them now she certainly looks ready to give birth.
Does anyone take temp to watch for this drop as a sign or at that stage will it be obvious anyway?
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The temperature drop is not always accurate. They can go off their food but again not accurate. Just watch for change in behaviour in general. She will know when the time comes, and you wil know not long after her :excited: cannot wait myself now :excited: keep us updated :excited:
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Good luck, hope it all goes well.
I have had them take for ever and I have also had them eat dinner and then pop a pup out 10 minutes later ::)
I am keeping my :fc: that our silver dapple Mini Dachshund has taken, she is nearly 4 and not had a litter yet. She has a long way to go yet though as only mated her to our chocolate and tan dog on the 17th
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If you do feel you have to sever the cord use a well disinfected thumb and middle finger nail using a "chewing" action to mimic the bitch's own. If a first litter you may need to help the first pup out by gently but fairly firmly gripping the head with a piece of old towelling, as said, when the head is delivering and using a slightly downwards hold. Don't pull! Just hold so that the head doesn't go back in.
I'm sure everything will go smoothly. A few weeks afterwards the fun really starts ;D When the pups are up and running!!
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and don't panic Moley - we're all here if you need us ;) We'er all :excited: too.
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ooh hope everything goes ok!
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ten past three on the morning of the 5th, got 4 pups, all very noisy and all very wriggly. Think that's it now as last one born an hour ago but did have an hour between two of them so will hang on a bit.
All look ok and amazing how quick they go for a teat.
I think both Skip and I are worn out. She went into 1st stage labour yesterday morning at 6AM so didn't get her normal sleeps during the day.
Would like to get her to come out of the whelping box so I can put some dry bedding in before I try to get some sleep but don't want to disturb her and the little 'uns.
Had 1 placenta for each pup. very easy to recognise and each was either with the pup or very soon after.
Who told me to nip the cord between finger nails so that it was like the bitch chewing it? Thank you for the tip, I had to do that.
Pics as soon as I can. Promise.
Yours,
one very ;D owner.
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5:10 AM and that makes 5 !!
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;D there's always one! Great news :excited: :excited: glad it was trouble free for both of you. :trophy:
Will await puppy piccies :eyelashes:
SLEEP?? That is a distant dream for a few weeks now :roflanim:
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That's fantastic news Moleskin :tired: , well done Skip.... :trophy: :trophy: :trophy: :trophy:
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Happy news indeed :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Congratulations to you and Skip! Well done both of you. Once you've both had a sleep, pics please :thumbsup:
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Great stuff, moleskins, glad all went well. I think Sylvia mentioned tearing the chord rather than cutting it, I said to tear it gently too.
:excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: need piccies now :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:
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Really pleased to hear the lovely news - congratulations! :thumbsup: :dog: :thumbsup:
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Yippie - nothing better - happy and health Mum and pup's - if your not resting/sleeping we want pics :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Yay! Look forward to pics.
Helen
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ok you had time to sleep where are the pictures please :-)
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Glad it all went well
When I have a new litter I dont go to bed untill they open their eyes ::)
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Glad it all went well
When I have a new litter I dont go to bed untill they open their eyes ::)
A breeder after my own heart! ::) :thumbsup:
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I got the pups all lined up for a pic turned round for the camera and they'd moved but this is about the best one.
Mostly it's hard to tell where one pup starts and one ends. They've all got names and I'd previously wondered how owners could tell the difference, now I'm dealing with a litter it's easy. :thumbsup:
Sweetness
Blossom
Queen
Excluder and
Dadant
Up every two hours last night making sure nobody was trapped, putting a squeaking pup back where it belongs etc.
Skips very good as a Mum, doesn't want to go out, if you take her up the road she just wants to come home.
One serious point, seeing an odd spot of blood from Skip, how long does that last ??
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yay puppies!!!
mum looks very content!!
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:love: mum looks very proud. :trophy:
She may have some bleeding for up to a week, perfectly normal :thumbsup: as long as it's only spots of blood after a few days. Will be fresh and can be heavy or clotted for the first couple of days, but the amount should be much reduced after that.
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I'm surprised it's only the odd spot of blood. Most of mine lose quite a bit for the first week or so after parturition. Sometimes longer. So long as she stays well, is eating and drinking well she should be fine.
She looks very contented.
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Glad it all went well
When I have a new litter I dont go to bed untill they open their eyes ::)
What, for THREE WEEKS!??? :o :roflanim:
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Beautiful pic, moley :thumbsup: Well done Skip :love: :dog:
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Glad it all went well
When I have a new litter I dont go to bed untill they open their eyes ::)
What, for THREE WEEKS!??? :o :roflanim:
No, mine open their eyes at 10 days! But yes, I do have them in the same room as me for that length of time. :eyelashes:
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Glad it all went well
When I have a new litter I dont go to bed untill they open their eyes ::)
What, for THREE WEEKS!??? :o :roflanim:
No, mine open their eyes at 10 days! But yes, I do have them in the same room as me for that length of time. :eyelashes:
Yes its 10 - 12 days for eyes and there is always someone at home with them 24/7 for that period