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Title: Growing mushrooms
Post by: suziequeue on June 30, 2012, 07:28:02 pm
I have relented and decided to try growing mushrooms again.


This time I am going to grow them in my compost bins. The compost usually goes in there in October of each year and then has another year in the bin. At this time of year tithe level has fallen somewhat so there would be plenty of space for the mushrooms to grow.


T&M are selling mushroom spawn for £7.99 for 100g and The Mushroom Box (via Amazon) are selling the same thing for £2.25 for 100g.


Why the difference in price?


Has anybody had any experience of spawn from either seller?
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: Bert on July 01, 2012, 08:31:52 am
I've just had a look at both web sites T&M and the mushroom box (direct, not via Amazon).
 Very impressed with the mushroom box site. Never heard of them before.
In answer to your question  on price. I can't tell you. But my guess is T&M are just another big company out to screw you. sorry to be so cynical  ::) .
 In answer to your other question on experience of spawn from either seller. No sorry I haven't. But I do have a couple of mushroom kits in the airing cupboard as we speak from Here
www.dobies.co.uk/Garden/Special Offers/Mushroom Favourites Offer_448460.htm (http://www.dobies.co.uk/Garden/Special%20Offers/Mushroom%20Favourites%20Offer_448460.htm)
 They seem to be doing well (they are doing what it says on the instructions so far anyway :fc: )
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: suziequeue on July 01, 2012, 08:52:27 am
Bert


Thanks for your considered response. Very grateful.


I will have a look down at the local shop this morning and I will try the Mushroom Box spawn in the first instance if the local shop can't beat the price/convenience.


Glad to hear the kits from Dobies are doing well. You are a star. I have NEVER been successful with kits (but  think that's partly neglect I suspect  ::) ::) ). I am going to plant the spawn in my compost bins. They are not due to be emptied until October-ish so I've got the "summer" to see if I can get a crop.


 :fc: :fc:
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: Fleecewife on July 01, 2012, 09:42:58 am
I shall be following this with interest as I've not had success with mushroom kits either but I love mushrooms  :fc:
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: FiB on July 01, 2012, 10:18:05 am
I shall be following this with interest as I've not had success with mushroom kits either but I love mushrooms  :fc:
Ditto, good luck both.  I fancy some of those shitake impregnated logs, but they are dear.
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: suziequeue on July 01, 2012, 11:20:58 am
I have just purchased some white button and portabella spawn from mushroom box. http://mushroombox.co.uk/ (http://mushroombox.co.uk/)

Apparently these mushrooms - despite being very popular - are in the "harder to grow" category and require already decomopsed/decomposing material to grow on.

This will be perfect as the compost in my bins already has a year outside before going in the bins and then another year in the bin so the compost in there now is at least 18 months old.

I'll take photographs  :fc: :fc: :fc:
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: Bionic on July 01, 2012, 11:24:16 am
I shall be following this with interest as I've not had success with mushroom kits either but I love mushrooms  :fc:
Ditto, good luck both.  I fancy some of those shitake impregnated logs, but they are dear.

Ditto, ditto,  I love mushrooms and haven't had success with the kits.
 
Suziequeue, you have a lot us waiting with baited breath
 
Sally
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: Mel on July 05, 2012, 06:30:35 am
Mine never came up! :-\ I guess I shall have another go as like you all,love fresh mushrooms,thanks for the mushroom box link,I shall be using this :thumbsup: ;D
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: suziequeue on July 07, 2012, 08:21:04 pm
So I've got the spawn and looked up the really helpful growing guide on the Mushroom Box website. i finally understand what it's all about!!!

The spawn needs to inoculate the compost medium first and grow through it. Then, once the compost is full of mycelium (the little white fibre strands), THEN that's when you put a load of damp "normal" compost on top to encourage it to fruit into mushrooms.

My compost bins weren't suitable as they are too big, airy and cool so I decanted some of the mostly rotted compost into some old plastic sheep lick containers and mixed in the spawn. Need to have a firm fitting lid and they now sit tight for a couple of weeks for the inoculation process to take place.

So - I am now at the stage that I have been before with kits....... the point at which previous attempts have always failed......... :D

I'll report back in two weeks :fc: :fc:
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: Bionic on July 08, 2012, 10:36:20 am
Very interesting, thanks
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: FiB on July 08, 2012, 05:32:33 pm
I shall be following this with interest as I've not had success with mushroom kits either but I love mushrooms  :fc:
Ditto, good luck both.  I fancy some of those shitake impregnated logs, but they are dear.
just been to the mushroom box site - NOT dear!! Thanks  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  (50 dowels for £3.99) I shall be ordering those and look forward to seeing your results.
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: Womble on November 11, 2014, 12:51:08 pm
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but we don't seem to have discussed grow your own mushrooms very much on TAS.

So how did this work out in the end?  Any update Suzieque and FiB?
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: cloddopper on November 12, 2014, 01:05:43 am
Getting the compost hot enough for long enough is a big prpblem  , there are recipes on the internet these days   
 From my study days  when  I was hoping to be a foreman cum manager of a mushroom I seem to recall that  well wetted chicken muck with straw  as well as horse muck with straw  and gypsum are mixed and turned as per the Berkley 18 day hot composting method.

On the last turning inoculate the top layer and put a sterile quality sieved loam soil casing over at about one inch thick . always replace any damaged capping with new clean capping.

When the crop has been harvested  & you think that's it ....  if the weather or temperature is still favourable put just under 1/3 of a cup of table salt in a 10 litre  watering can  of warm water, stir to dissolve the salt then  using a fine rose  give the capping a fair wetting of the salt water .  The salt seems to reactivate the bed  enough mushrooms for you to get about 3/4 of the original size of crop .

Don't seal the mushroom container  find  something to keep out the light & tiny mushroom flies  but do use something that allows the higher humidity, ammonia and co2 gases to escape
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: Clarebelle on November 12, 2014, 06:52:56 am
I have had a bumper crop of large white mushrooms in my greenhouse. It's my first year here so I wasn't the one who put the soil in the greenhouse bed but the mushrooms seem to love it! Only trouble is I haven't got round to identifying them yet so not sure what type they are! I'll have to wait until next year now
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: devonlady on November 12, 2014, 09:29:35 am
I used to get spent mushroom compost from a local mushroom farm to put on my garden and regularly had a lovely crop of mushrooms from it :yum:
Title: Re: Growing mushrooms
Post by: Carse Goodlifers on November 12, 2014, 06:37:02 pm
Radio 4's - The Food Programme was all about mushrooms at weekend past.
Very interesting.