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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: plumseverywhere on June 21, 2012, 07:46:11 am

Title: Heavy worm burden advice
Post by: plumseverywhere on June 21, 2012, 07:46:11 am
Noticed some white grains in the droppings in Puffin and her 14 wk old kid, Sixpences Paddock a few days ago. Have given them a dose of wormer and Sixpence is now emptying out loads of what looks like tapeworm, which I assume are now dead due to the wormer.
Would you re-dose in a matter of days/weeks to get on top of the worms cycle or do I leave it at that?
Its pretty grim but he's looking much better already!
Title: Re: Heavy worm burden advice
Post by: SallyintNorth on June 21, 2012, 10:01:34 am
A goat expert will be along soon, no doubt, plums - meanwhile, if it were sheep you were talking about I would be suggesting you check any dogs which can poo where the sheep graze.  Our vet recommends worming any such dogs every 3 months.  Sheep can tolerate a tapeworm burden but they can cause cysts, some of which could cause symptoms and some of which, in fat lambs, could cause meat to be condemned. 
Title: Re: Heavy worm burden advice
Post by: jaykay on June 21, 2012, 03:23:17 pm
Same applies to goats.

If they were mine I'd worm once more to ensure I'd got them all. You remember that goats often need 1.5 times the dose that a similar weight sheep would need.

But you have to either control access to the pasture by dogs or worm them, if they're yours, if you're going to get control of tapeworms.

worms in sheep (and goats) (http://www.farmanimalhealth.co.uk/sheep-worms)
Title: Re: Heavy worm burden advice
Post by: plumseverywhere on June 21, 2012, 05:21:44 pm
Thanks both. No dogs live here or pass through.


I did the extra dosage for the goats and I changed Puffin's to a clear wormer as she was last done with a white. Any idea what the life cycle is for the worm so I know when to reworm for this batch?  :)
Title: Re: Heavy worm burden advice
Post by: Anke on June 21, 2012, 08:59:26 pm
Hi, I had a tapeworm problem with one of my nannies last year, though not in the kids. Didn't resolve where it came from - but I guess it can also be carried by cats, foxes, badgers etc etc. We also do not have any dogs in the goat field.
 
The only wormer that treats tapeworm is Panacur, and it needs at least 1.5 up to 2 times the sheep dose. I did two and never saw a thing again.. so it worked. Also the nanny in question never showed any sign of ill health and milk yield remained as expected... but I was panicking though!
Title: Re: Heavy worm burden advice
Post by: plumseverywhere on June 21, 2012, 09:11:36 pm
We have loads of foxes, badgers and deer - it could be from anyone of them I guess.  I panacur'd the kid but Noromec'd the nanny, she's not got any white in her poo's (I checked today) but he's still pouring out what looks like Taglietelle pasta (sorry if you are eating!)
Title: Re: Heavy worm burden advice
Post by: Anke on June 21, 2012, 09:58:17 pm
Just finishing off a bar of chocolate that OH keeps buying... So not offended, and I have been there and checked droppings for worms...
 
Title: Re: Heavy worm burden advice
Post by: jinglejoys on June 22, 2012, 01:00:07 pm
If I remember rightly the tapeworm cycle is 21 days
Title: Re: Heavy worm burden advice
Post by: plumseverywhere on June 22, 2012, 01:44:28 pm
Thank you JJ. Will have to worm then again.  :)