The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Smallholding => Buildings & planning => Topic started by: smudger on May 17, 2012, 12:05:01 pm
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Apart from a general call out for what you would design in (or out) again if starting a fresh, any views on concrete v stone v rammed earth as a floor. Plus having got some budget prices in before submitting planning, it looks like an all timber building / kit will be the most economical. Just a bit concerned about durability of stockboard at base rather than block (but it is prettier...).
thx all.
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concrete every time far more durable than earth or stone and tidier as well
pole sheds as long as you can get electric ones not the pencils that GPO use
there was somebody already posting about a shed build and a link to a blog
it all depends on what the shed is for as to floor sides and frame and also the long term use
the most of them have block work up to 5 feet then sheeted in or vented sides :farmer:
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Depending on how much land you have - youd be better off applying under 28 day prior notification as a tractor shed, workshop or feed storage shed - and then using it as a livestock shed when its all over and built. :thumbsup:
Personally I'd have a concrete floor everytime
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there was somebody already posting about a shed build and a link to a blog
That was me. All the foundations are now in and I'm just waiting for the timber yard to cut the timber (Larch) for the columns and beams. Once I have it and the frame assembled I'll update the blog (hopefully in the next 4 weeks)
Parts 1 & 2 here
http://lizburton.co.uk/wordpress/work-on-the-smallholding/building-a-pole-barn-part-1/ (http://lizburton.co.uk/wordpress/work-on-the-smallholding/building-a-pole-barn-part-1/)
http://lizburton.co.uk/wordpress/work-on-the-smallholding/building-a-pole-barn-part-2/ (http://lizburton.co.uk/wordpress/work-on-the-smallholding/building-a-pole-barn-part-2/)
Edit: Just popped out and took a photo of the finished foundations. As I say I will update the blog with ongoing construction details etc as I progress (and work things out). I am loosely basing our barn on the utility barns sold by Farmplus; although I am not making it as high to reduce the impact on the landscape. The overall size is 12m x 6m
Costs so far:
Excavator hire approx £200
Concrete (self mix) for foundations approx £200/250
Timber frame approx £1200 (according to sawmill)
Cladding and roof (guestimate) £1500
I may put in a concrete floor once the land has settled which will be extra
(http://lizburton.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/MG_0227.jpg)
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Concrete every time. Think about slippy / non-slip surfaces (generally some roughness is best for livestock), and what fall and / or drainage channels you want so that water - dirty and clean - drains away as you want it to.
(If you go rammed earth or stone, you'll struggle to get the drainage to work.)
If you are worried about the hardness of the surface for stock to stand / lie on, either use plenty of straw (deep littering usually works best) or get rubber mats / mattresses.