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Smallholding => Buildings & planning => Topic started by: peartreewoodlandsmallholding on May 10, 2012, 09:06:11 pm

Title: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: peartreewoodlandsmallholding on May 10, 2012, 09:06:11 pm
Hi, we have recently purchased a 2 acre field which is 5 miles away from our home, we are going to keep pigs and a few sheep, chickens and ducks etc but what i wanted to know is I know the pigs and other animals can have housing without planning etc but what are the rules/regs on having somewhere to store there feed and equiptment for there management and wellbeing can i put a small shed on there that would be used to store the feed or would i need planning permission, just wondered how anyone else manages to store food etc if they dont live on there land. only we have a small house and nowhere to store feed at home. any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks, Chris :D
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: bigchicken on May 10, 2012, 09:40:58 pm
Planning permission for a hut don't think so, I have several huts and don't need any permission
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: jacob and Georgina on May 10, 2012, 09:49:58 pm
you will not need permission for anything which is a temporary structure anyway so a shed comes under this bracket, but a shed would be to small i would have thought even if it was permenent to need planning permission
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: Small Farmer on May 10, 2012, 10:53:21 pm
The proliferation of field shelters around here - most of which don't move - has attracted the interest of the planners who are wanting planning applications.  Agricultural planning rules apply for holdings over 5ha but from memory there's a prohibition on doing anything on land under 1ha

However, planning permission is a pain to get: councils are slow and reluctant and expensive and crap.  If you put up a shed and they ask you to apply for retrospective planning approval then you're no worse off.  JFDI
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: Fowgill Farm on May 11, 2012, 10:06:27 am
Stick a shed up in an unobstrusive corner but be warned if its anything like round here the local thieving bar stewards will be into it the first night you leave it and clean it out! so don't leave anything in it you wouldn't want stolen eg tools, horse rugs etc. Make it as secure as you can.
Mandy  :pig:
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: goosepimple on May 11, 2012, 10:41:09 am
Just do it.  Plant a some vegetation around it that won't harm your animals (willow grows quickly) and stick some turf on the roof (your ducks will like that).  Council will probably give it listed building status if they can find it  :D
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: Bratton Pig on June 02, 2012, 02:34:06 pm
we used metal food bins, they are heavy esp. with feed in. can hold a lot of food, they can be locked, and are rodent proof.you could also store other small items in them.  but will need protection from rain, we are selling ours, can give you info if interested. good luck!
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: manian on June 02, 2012, 04:42:00 pm
if you have animals, and 'workers' then you need somewhere for them to have a break!! :eyelashes:
so a shed could be used for that (they will usually allow it ) ;)
 
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: lachlanandmarcus on June 02, 2012, 04:46:26 pm
good point manian. the rules are quite specific about allowing that, provided theres no element of living infrastructure in it.
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: clydesdaleclopper on June 02, 2012, 08:55:12 pm
Agricultural planning rules apply for holdings over 5ha but from memory there's a prohibition on doing anything on land under 1ha


The rules are different for Scotland though - there is no 5ha requirement.
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: bazzais on June 18, 2012, 11:23:47 pm
Planning rules are pretty much specific to your council rather than your country.  I'd never be allowed to put a shed up in any of my fields as it would have to be attached to the floor to stop it blowing away.

Buy an old horsebox or trailer and park it up - they cant do anything - unless it starts to look like a dump.

I'd also explain that its a 'small implement storage shed' rather than for animal foods.
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: Red on August 07, 2012, 09:04:43 pm
Under my local council we don't need planning permission for field shelters if we are a registered small holding but we did need to apply for 'permitted development' in which they have 28 days to turn the application around in but the PD planning has now changed - just look on your local planning portal and it should advise you, its easier not to get on the wrong side of the planners  :o
Title: Re: Animal feed storage shed can or can,t??
Post by: Sylvia on August 08, 2012, 08:11:06 am
I was given an old caravan, water tight and big enough to store a good few bales of hay and straw and my feed bins.