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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: Victorian Farmer on May 06, 2012, 10:12:07 am

Title: THAINSTONE UP DATE
Post by: Victorian Farmer on May 06, 2012, 10:12:07 am
A VERY GOOD TURN OUT PRICES £100 FOR 3 CREAM LEG BARS G BAMFORD 12 DOZ BLACK ROCK £22 RONALD GREENLAW £80 HERITAGE HIGH BREDS   SILVERLACE WYNDOTS 36 SINGLE HEN 12 EGGS 24 POUND.
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Post by: lachlanandmarcus on May 06, 2012, 10:26:57 am
Glad to hear Ronnie had a good price. He's a lovely gentleman and a pretty near neighbour, and his chooks are well cared for and happy :-)))
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Post by: robert waddell on May 06, 2012, 10:32:33 am
tell us if the pigs made the same money or less :farmer:
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Post by: Victorian Farmer on May 06, 2012, 12:18:19 pm
The small pigs were 10 to 15 pound each i dont no about the bigger 1 s
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Post by: allyb on May 06, 2012, 12:22:49 pm
Hi Robert
             The pigs made less money than the poultry from what i seen.The sheep prices were ok although you could  have bought Soays for £10.50 a life quite cheap in my eyes . :) if you need some prices let me know a marked them on the catalogue.Ally  :)
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Post by: robert waddell on May 06, 2012, 12:24:21 pm
now is it not just a funny old world  10 pigs are worth one hen
it is a good job that the Masai tribes don't work with pigs  they would need millions of them :D :farmer:
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Post by: robert waddell on May 06, 2012, 12:26:19 pm
hi ally if you could post what the pigs made i am sure there are lots more wanting to know but just wont ask :farmer:
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Post by: allyb on May 06, 2012, 12:41:07 pm
Hi Robert will do i never seen all pigs going through but there wasnt one over £100 that a seen.Its mad that you can buy a pig cheaper than a hen and to be honest they go on about rare breeds sales there wasnt an awful lot of rare breed hens there. Also what would anyone on here pay for a Wensleydale gimmer?. A know what i think there worth and a think a seller yesterday made a big mistake and didnt realise how the market/Auctioneer works selling per life but please tell me your thoughts
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Post by: bigchicken on May 06, 2012, 01:23:33 pm
Do you know what the shetland sheep went for and the Kerry Hills cheers
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Post by: lachlanandmarcus on May 06, 2012, 01:57:32 pm
with the price of pig feed it doesnt surprise me at all, and since theres no option of feeding scraps unless you have some orchard or other source of by products which are permitted it makes for an expensive animal to keep relatively these days in comparison with hardy sheep breeds living on grass and hay or chooks which are low maintenance and can be used for eggs or meat.
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Post by: robert waddell on May 06, 2012, 04:14:58 pm
the same argument could be used for texels and all other fast maturing and heavy weight carcases sheep
kitchen scraps are not allowed for poultry  so that is the poultry out the equation
expensive if you are breeding them not if you just buy weaners  but then there is good and bad even with weaners   now you look at the price of pork in your local butcher or supermarket  then buy a good weaner that is going to grow and kill out with a decent amount of meat     that can convert proper pig food for about 60p a kilo not expensive in the long run :farmer:
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Post by: lachlanandmarcus on May 06, 2012, 04:38:47 pm
Yeeessss  but the prices people are getting for the commercial sheep from the buyers eg abbatoirs/processors make up for the increased costs of rearing them, unlike with pigs! And altho you cant feed chickens scraps, they do eat the grass/plants/insects in their surroundings and dont take much feeding.

I do agree that a weaner is still a very very good proposition in terms of a comparison with butchers pork, its just that most people dont look at what they would pay for that much meat as they buy it bit by bit if they buy it from shops. Plus unless you have the fencing/arc  etc to keep pigs there is a big one off expense.

Dont get me wrong, at the moment the buyers of weaners are getting a VERY good deal; its the breeders who are hurting like mad. But if you have the land to make your own hay, and choose low input sheep breeds, who basically only get grass and hay, then that is what many people will do esp when they look at the sky high price of lamb in the shops.
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Post by: robert waddell on May 06, 2012, 06:30:07 pm
a small number of chooks wont take much to feed but a large number will
as a price comparison chicken breast   skin on  £18.95 a kilo
fillet steak    £32.50 a kilo
lamb loin roast £15.50 a kilo
pork a leg roast £10.00  a kilo with bone in
these prices are taken from a link on this site :farmer:
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Post by: Mays on May 06, 2012, 06:33:47 pm
i WAS VERY PLEASED, I sold a single cockerel for £25  :) his father sold in the last sale for £50, so I very pleased to have £75 for two cockerels!
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Post by: thestephens on May 06, 2012, 06:41:01 pm
my first rare breed sale....... hooked! only went for a couple of hens and came back with 10 and a cockeral!!!! how did that happen!!
i too was surprised that hens were more expensive than pigs. in my book i have the 2 "micro" pigs at £15
berkshire cross at £25
saddleback at £40 lunch then brought my notes to an end
husband bought the oxford downs.
think it was a good job we had to leave to take the kids to a party!!
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Post by: robert waddell on May 06, 2012, 06:46:44 pm
were the downs pedigree and how much :farmer:
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Post by: thestephens on May 06, 2012, 06:59:45 pm
first mum and lamb £70, the rest were £110
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Post by: robert waddell on May 06, 2012, 07:50:02 pm
that is cheap  if they do as well as the Hampshire downs :farmer:
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Post by: allyb on May 06, 2012, 08:54:10 pm
Hi the shetlands Pedigrees made 100-130.The Kerry hills made £70.00. Yes its mad when 1 Cockeril makes more than a pig.Top price was a Zwartble ewe at £260.00 Wensleydales bid to £170 and owner never sold.did anyone see what the Longhorn and calf made as was at the poultry and missed that one. Thanks
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Post by: bigchicken on May 06, 2012, 10:38:39 pm
Thanks allyb, a good price for the Shetlands I would have thought the Kerrys would have fetched more maybe not pedigree or of not so good a quality or just no demand.
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Post by: toaster on May 06, 2012, 10:52:03 pm
Goodness me Mays, what breed was the cockerel?
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Post by: Victorian Farmer on May 07, 2012, 09:25:16 am
Mays the road you sold was a very good foundation cock bird i bid to 40 for that att 50 it was still cheap there are 3 breeders after good roads it has to be a good size for cross breeding. Iff we new it was from the same line we would of had it att that price ,credit to youre stock.3 utilatey roads will make 25 per hen they have to be utilatey good egg strain. I also missed the roadbar number 62 i wonder whot that made i bet 70 or more.
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Post by: Mays on May 07, 2012, 10:51:10 am
thank you VF, I am having a rest from cockerels for the summer as they get up to early! but will bring on some more next winter, I have a good lot of his stock in my free range flock, tempted to show some of them as they are are good looking healthy hens :) I crossed him with a Speckeldy Lady and got this stunner (pictured young pullet):

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543282_10150762839502232_558587231_9573765_1477609387_n.jpg)

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Post by: Victorian Farmer on May 07, 2012, 01:23:02 pm
Thats a very nice strong hen , do you no who vf is pure breed poultrey we pic up stock for the queens valit mat hensons dad and keep 43 breeds .At the mo looking at utilatey stock for good egg layers .whot stock have you got.
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Post by: toaster on May 07, 2012, 10:23:07 pm
Nice useful sort that pullet Mays  :thumbsup:

I thought I did well getting £25 each for my cockerels!
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Post by: clydesdaleclopper on May 07, 2012, 11:41:25 pm
Does anyone know what the Gotlands went for?
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Post by: allyb on May 08, 2012, 07:11:03 pm
First lot in ring didnt sell and next lot made £55 per life