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Growing => Gardens => Topic started by: chairmanphil on February 24, 2012, 09:13:40 am
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i am just about to build an extensive set of these beds and wondered if anyone else has had a go with it?
http://permaculture.org.au/2012/01/04/hugelkultur-composting-whole-trees-with-ease/ (http://permaculture.org.au/2012/01/04/hugelkultur-composting-whole-trees-with-ease/)
and this is the start of mine;
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I have a load of branch cuttings left over from the winter logging - so I will give this a go - always looking for ways to d things with out to much work --- will let you know how it progress.
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I have a load of branch cuttings left over from the winter logging - so I will give this a go - always looking for ways to d things with out to much work --- will let you know how it progress.
good work, says that fresh wood takes a little longer to break down so add some good rotten willow to it to get the right creatures and fungus in the kultur!
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good info ta :thumbsup:
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we are going to do loads of work on the beds today so i will take some pics as it unfolds. should be a good day. :hshoe:
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we have done so much to them. got loads of pics but going to have a cider and a bite of curry first! what a fine day it was. :thumbsup:
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so here are some pics of the days work,
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the raw materials
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there are others of it later in the day on another phone because mine ran out of battery! ::)
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here is where we are now, getting a tonne of top soil next week and finish the job at the weekend.
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I shall be following this whole experiment with great interest :thumbsup:
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I shall be following this whole experiment with great interest :thumbsup:
me too! :D
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Really interested in this.
I've just got a load of guinea pig poo mixed with straw..............Could this be used to cover the logs? Sorry to ask this question without doing proper research but I'm too eager to ask and not read ;D ;D
Ian
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Really interested in this.
I've just got a load of guinea pig poo mixed with straw..............Could this be used to cover the logs? Sorry to ask this question without doing proper research but I'm too eager to ask and not read ;D ;D
Ian
yeah poo is good as it has loads of nitrogen in it. and straw is very good for the kultur. :thumbsup:
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Thanks Chairman :thumbsup:
Ian
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Thanks Chairman :thumbsup:
Ian
anytime mate. :thumbsup:
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Very interesting - Thanks :thumbsup:
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Very interesting - Thanks :thumbsup:
i'm going round all the farmers and asking if we can take all the rotting willow out of the streams for them to build the back hugel bank! the older the wood the quicker the kultur develops
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getting a tonne of top soil tomorrow, if the rain stays off the first 2 beds will be finished saturday.
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i think this is a really interesting method. but have trouble with the nitrogen robbery to start with, how long do you think those logs will take to rot down, i reckon 3 years minimum.
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i think this is a really interesting method. but have trouble with the nitrogen robbery to start with, how long do you think those logs will take to rot down, i reckon 3 years minimum.
the wood i am using on these first ones are deciduous Lime which if left damp for anytime just rot away very quickly and the apple wood i have put in is 5 years dead so i am hoping with some queensland blue pumpkins this summer/autumn will knock the lime about a bit! i am getting loads of wood sorted now from the hedgerows and field sides which is nearly all willow. i am going to build this stage over the summer and seal in september and see what we have next year. the main reason i started this is i have about 10 tonne of lime and lime wood chips on my neighbors field which he wants me to move so i thought i would try this and it has just gathered pace from there. i own the land and am there for the foreseeable future so even if it does take time i am ok with that. i started working on the plot in 2008 and have cut down 59 trees which has transformed the site. they were mainly llaylandii or however you spell it. no good for the kultur, but the limes and beech i think will go well and are already well seasoned and a little rotten in places.
this is what the same site looked like 4 years ago
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and 2 days ago
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the green house is the point of reference as in the first shot you cannot see the shed! :thumbsup:
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my land is similar, im on the edge of 100acres of woodland, ive cleared loads so far and have a lovely old lime at the end of the plot, i knew it didnt burn but i didnt know it rotted so quick, ta for that. i do think the more nitrogen supplied the better, loads of chicken manure or something to get it going. the squash should love it
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my land is similar, im on the edge of 100acres of woodland, ive cleared loads so far and have a lovely old lime at the end of the plot, i knew it didnt burn but i didnt know it rotted so quick, ta for that. i do think the more nitrogen supplied the better, loads of chicken manure or something to get it going. the squash should love it
where are ya?
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its on my profile or the member map above i think?
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its on my profile or the member map above i think?
roughly?
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near truro cornwall.
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near truro cornwall.
i know people in Kelly Brae near Callington, not just down the road eh?
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hes not called pete is he ;)
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hes not called pete is he ;)
nah, he is a Frank or a Dorri :thumbsup:
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nah dont know him :D
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get the top soil today, but not going to close the beds without some fresh grass clippings over the top. also it looks like it is going to be wet over the weekend and Oxfordshire clay is not to be under estimated! keep ya all posted! :thumbsup:
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soil dumped and very nice it is too! will take some pics tomorrow it was getting a little dark this evening. ;D
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just been to see a neighbour and asked about rotten willow. he says come with me and takes round the back and there is about 10 tonnes of 15 year old willow logs completely rotted! you can have the lot he says and that 6 tonne of horse muck! so it has been a very good day so far! :thumbsup:
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Nice! :thumbsup:
Ian
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getting a tonne of grass clippings off a mate next week so should be able to seal the first beds soon!
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nothing been going on with this for some time but made up for it today!
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so now it is a case of letting it settle for a week get a few more grass clippings on in that time and then cover with soil.
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Make sure you get it planted up as quickly as possible and it will help to stabilise the beds. Its a good idea to use nitrogen fixers in the first year of a hugel bed and if you don't know what was previously grown in the top soil that you have imported then you might want to use an innoculant to ensure that the nitrogen fixing bacteria are present.
I think hugel beds are great and one of my 4 year old's many talents is spotting rotten logs ;D
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Make sure you get it planted up as quickly as possible and it will help to stabilise the beds. Its a good idea to use nitrogen fixers in the first year of a hugel bed and if you don't know what was previously grown in the top soil that you have imported then you might want to use an innoculant to ensure that the nitrogen fixing bacteria are present.
I think hugel beds are great and one of my 4 year old's many talents is spotting rotten logs ;D
what is a nitrogen fixer? as for the top soil it has been screened and had some compost and sand added. it comes from a quarry in farringdon. as the cut in the have tonnes of top soil to sell. so it had grass on it before i got it.
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what is a nitrogen fixer? as for the top soil it has been screened and had some compost and sand added. it comes from a quarry in farringdon. as the cut in the have tonnes of top soil to sell. so it had grass on it before i got it.
They have nodules that form on the roots that fix atmospheric nitrogen and this becomes available to other plants when they are cut down and the roots die. Legumes such as peas and beans are the main type of nitrogen fixers that most vegetable gardeners are familiar with. There is a useful list here http://www.tcpermaculture.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/plants-nitrogen-fixers.html (http://www.tcpermaculture.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/plants-nitrogen-fixers.html) of different nitrogen fixing plants that are suitable for temperate climates.
If the soil was growing grass before then it is unlikely to contain the rhizobium bacteria that are necessary for legumes to fix nitrogen unless the grass also contained clover.
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i am going to just see what happens if it is just left to do its thing for this experiment, will plant it with peas and beans with a couple of pumpkins. it is using logs that were not rotten but had been seasoned for 3 years and most of it is Lime which breaks down very quickly if it is wet. i had about 10 tonnes of wood on the farmers field like he said i could. but now he wants to be able to turn his combine round on this land and wants the logs and wood chips gone by harvest. this is why i am doing the hugels. just thought it would work with the lime very well. we shall see! i have got about 6 single cab hilux pickup loads of powder rotten willow i can pickup anytime and am going to set about a massive back bed running the whole south facing span. this is about 60 meters and will make a great place to put the beech leaves from the avenue and i can blag 10 or so bales at harvest for being a good boy and getting it all clear! this is the plan anyway!
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This looks fascinating.... I have taken inspiration and layered up a load of twiggy brash with some manure and grass clippings, and shovelled topsoil over it. It's about 1x2m and1m high. I'm thinking a squash plant or two - but should I throw some clover seeds on to fix nitrogen? By volume there is more "twig" than manure/straw/grass.
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This looks fascinating.... I have taken inspiration and layered up a load of twiggy brash with some manure and grass clippings, and shovelled topsoil over it. It's about 1x2m and1m high. I'm thinking a squash plant or two - but should I throw some clover seeds on to fix nitrogen? By volume there is more "twig" than manure/straw/grass.
The more twig the better - it will last longer :thumbsup:
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This looks fascinating.... I have taken inspiration and layered up a load of twiggy brash with some manure and grass clippings, and shovelled topsoil over it. It's about 1x2m and1m high. I'm thinking a squash plant or two - but should I throw some clover seeds on to fix nitrogen? By volume there is more "twig" than manure/straw/grass.
sounds like a good combo, will be very interesting to see the different results. what kind of twigs are you using Yorkshire Lass?
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This looks fascinating.... I have taken inspiration and layered up a load of twiggy brash with some manure and grass clippings, and shovelled topsoil over it. It's about 1x2m and1m high. I'm thinking a squash plant or two - but should I throw some clover seeds on to fix nitrogen? By volume there is more "twig" than manure/straw/grass.
sounds like a good combo, will be very interesting to see the different results. what kind of twigs are you using Yorkshire Lass?
Um.
Things I butchered last autumn.....a fair bit of ornamental quince, some rose, some willow, some fuschia. Before burying in manure I noticed the twigs had mainly dried so I stomped on the pile to break them up a bit. In the pic, the twigs are in the left corner and you can just see the muck pile on the right.
Edit - I did remove the cardboard and bin bag!
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should be a goodun then :thumbsup:
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Thank you Chairman,love this idea and we are going to make a start! :thumbsup:
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Thank you Chairman,love this idea and we are going to make a start! :thumbsup:
taking off all over, couple of lads this way are just going to do the same thing!
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Started ours today,cleared out the old strawberry patch which is some 15ft x 7ft,then dug a trench down the centre,the ground is awful hence this used to be a raised bed and there are lots of bricks or builders rubble.
We cleared the trench area and put ground cover down either side as are going to put a small path either side and the rubbly areas are stricken with twitch,nettles and docks which would take us a week to get out! :-\
Luckily we have a woods just out of the village so we went and picked up some large rotting chunks and trunks to place within the trench,this brought it up to some three and a half feet :D ,I finished off this evening by filling in the gaps with barrow loads of wood chip/mulch which I get from a local farmer,£10.00 a tonne bag-or in the last case two extra large joints of free range pork for 5 tonnes plus a tenner!
This wood chip mulch is cheap because it has been in the sacks for a while,it stinks of loveliness and has mushrooms growing from it ;D .Tomorrow hopefully the grass is being cut so shall rake all of this up,plus all the old hay/leaves from the winter and such-is this right Chairman? and put it on top.then i shall cover with all the topsoil which was the old strawberry bed,we have about 2 tonnes of it so should do the job?!
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sounds like jobs a goodun! well done. got any pics?
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sounds like jobs a goodun! well done. got any pics?
Hope it is reasonable enough!
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that all looks very good to me. but i am in at the deep end myself! will be interesting to see what we think this time next year! nice one kidda!
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Leghorn - bear in mind that wood chip rots much faster than the solid logs and will draw down more noitrogen as a result. You will need to compensate for this. Looks fab btw :thumbsup:
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Leghorn - bear in mind that wood chip rots much faster than the solid logs and will draw down more noitrogen as a result. You will need to compensate for this. Looks fab btw :thumbsup:
Hi,what would you propose? I was going to add grass cuttings and or straw? prior to covering with soil,I had even though of the use of the turf? Any suggestions would be very welcome please!
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i covered my logs with wood chips, straw, beech leaves, 2 years worth of compost that is about 3-4 years old and grass clippings. going to cover it in top soil this weekend and put the broad beans and peas on top as clydes says to fix the nitrogen theft. but as it says in the first post it will all break down in the end. it all depends how quickly you want it to be very productive. i have all the time in the world and needed to shift the logs and chips. the next lot will be a very different construction with lots of rotten willow going into the heart of it. as people visit it is the centre point of the garden. they just are drawn to them, want to know what they are and how they work. can't wait to see what pumpkins we get off them next year!
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Leghorn - bear in mind that wood chip rots much faster than the solid logs and will draw down more noitrogen as a result. You will need to compensate for this. Looks fab btw :thumbsup:
Hi,what would you propose? I was going to add grass cuttings and or straw? prior to covering with soil,I had even though of the use of the turf? Any suggestions would be very welcome please!
sow it with nitrogen fixers and for your other plantings for the first couple of years don't plant anything that is too nitrogen hungry. Hoof and Horn is also high nitrogen - maybe ask some horsey people for the trimmings when the farrier has been and grind them up a bit.
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hair and feathers are high in nitrogen, and blood is too.
i would be adding serious amounts of nitrogen if you intend using this kind of bed in the next 3 years, but ive no doubt that it will be amazing soil when finished.
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Oh,That's ok,I have last years chicken manure with all the rotting runner and broad bean plants so this should help.I wanted to place a good lot of cut grass over the top,however,I went to start the lawnmower over the weekend and the pull handle came off :-\ ,the spring thingy has broken to pieces and I am looking to buy another mower-this one is a bit old.
I suppose on this Hugelkultur I could use all the old straw which has been laying around on the ground all winter,trouble is,it does have some ears on it and they are likely to set and grow,or normally they have when I used this on the old strawberry bed just to keep the berries off of the soil.
Thank you all for your kind comments and help with this,it is appreciated and I cannot wait to plant it,which I am going against waiting and planting it this year-or when it is finished,I am following a hunch with this and which materials and at what level within the Kultur,i.e. All my strawb plants are waiting to go back in,the do not really have deep roots so these shall be the first back in.
I am going to keep taking pictures of the progress all the way,especially of the resulting growth :)
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good innit? :thumbsup:
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was going to cover the beds today, but rained off today so will probably Saturday now. :(
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both beds covered in top soil, very happy gardener. pics to follow later! :thumbsup:
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very proud of my boy Byron, without his work this would be just an idea! :thumbsup:
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Those beds look lovely :thumbsup: So do your artichokes (I can never get mine to overwinter here)
I'm looking forward to seeing the beds planted up and to see how they crop :yum:.
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thanx mate, been alot of work TBH thought it was going to be a little easier but that's life innit!
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im highly jealous of your artichokes!!! mine always seem to get demolished by black fly and other bugs. yours look in fine fettle, should be a good crop this year, as theyre up so early and strong. did you cover them over the winter?
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im highly jealous of your artichokes!!! mine always seem to get demolished by black fly and other bugs. yours look in fine fettle, should be a good crop this year, as theyre up so early and strong. did you cover them over the winter?
never cover them, they get a little burnt by bad frost but seem to come back ok. they are in a bed which had 4 tonne of horse poo dug in by excavator 3 years ago so very good conditions for them and very well drained which in the winter is a must for arties! just potted up 10 green and 8 purple for this years row. i put a row in every year what you can see there is last years survivors.
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i think thats may be why mine never amount to much, im on heavy clay and the drainage isnt the best, i think ill devote one of my raised beds to them this year cos i do love artichokes and so does my daughter, steamed and dipped in oliveoil and soem good balsamic has to be a highlight of summer. ill dig loads of manure and compost in and try again!
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dig a trench about 2 feet deep and then pick axe the bottom and add as much poo as you have. pick axe again and then replace soil and leave over winter and plant in april. i start the seeds in august and winter the plants in the green house. if you have clay like me try a hugel bed, it will transform your soil over 3-4 years.
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it would be impossible to dig a trench 2 foot deep, i wish! the clay starts about 6inches down and is mixed with shale in layers, all my crops are grown in raised beds that are made with 18inch cedar boards, and i have them filled with compost, manure and leafmould taken from the beech and oak woods near my place, i top them up regularly with more compost, its the only way. i think i will dedicate a permanent bed to artichokes tho, and do as you say, cheers or the advice.
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it would be impossible to dig a trench 2 foot deep, i wish! the clay starts about 6inches down and is mixed with shale in layers, all my crops are grown in raised beds that are made with 18inch cedar boards, and i have them filled with compost, manure and leafmould taken from the beech and oak woods near my place, i top them up regularly with more compost, its the only way. i think i will dedicate a permanent bed to artichokes tho, and do as you say, cheers or the advice.
i have about 6 feet of clay then onto gravel and chalk. the problem you will have with artichokes is the long taproot. that is how they stay alive in winter, deep deep roots.
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right, in that case, i shall have to dig out the kango, i ve used it before to get a fence post in. that should break it up enough to let me dig it out. it would be worth doing on a few of my beds tbh, i just havent thought about doing it like that before! ::)
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I have never seen artichokes growing before they look identical to the Cardoon which is part of the same family,I have not used them as of yet,they have come up this year and have an amazing thistle head.
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I have never seen artichokes growing before they look identical to the Cardoon which is part of the same family,I have not used them as of yet,they have come up this year and have an amazing thistle head.
got about 12 cardoons to put in. next week i think. they are a great veg bit like celery.
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So I'm noticing that you all have very flat beds, whereas my "hugel-style" attempt is more a heap in the corner ;D
The topsoil washed off, but I have had grass clippings to add. I'll rebury once it stops raining long enough!
Should I be reshaping it??
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So I'm noticing that you all have very flat beds, whereas my "hugel-style" attempt is more a heap in the corner ;D
The topsoil washed off, but I have had grass clippings to add. I'll rebury once it stops raining long enough!
Should I be reshaping it??
got any pics?
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Only this, the heap in the left hand corner (this was taken pre-burying/washing off/re-burying!)
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what is that made of?
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The cardboard is no longer there ;D
Mainly twiggy, brashy, shrub clippings. Stuff that was too big to try to compost, so it got piled up.... Small twisted willow branches, ornamental quince, rose...Then the muck heap you can sort of see on the right was added (waste dung/straw from cattle trailer). That lot got covered in topsoil, which then washed off, so it now has a pile of grass clippings on top...
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beech leave is what i used and 2 bails of straw then about a tonne of grass clipping from a mate who cuts lawns. rain has been heavy this way last couple of days and all still there. i'm new to all this myself!
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just planted the nitrogen fixers. loads of painted lady broad beans and peas of various types. good weather for planting peas and beans......oh and ducks! :thumbsup:
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remember that the nitrogen isnt fixed until the dead plants roots rot down ;) they may need some food to crop.
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remember that the nitrogen isnt fixed until the dead plants roots rot down ;) they may need some food to crop.
going to keep planting the beds all summer with loads of different beans and peas!
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went and had a look today and some little rodent has dug up and eaten all my painted lady broad beans that i planted wednesday! so will need to keep the planting up to get anything to take ???
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remember that the nitrogen isnt fixed until the dead plants roots rot down ;) they may need some food to crop.
You can encourage this by cutting the top growth - that's what Fukoka does with the clover.
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I still have not manage to get mine going as have been unable to cut any grass :( :-\
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remember that the nitrogen isnt fixed until the dead plants roots rot down ;) they may need some food to crop.
You can encourage this by cutting the top growth - that's what Fukoka does with the clover.
need to put some seeds in the green house so they start, the mice have dug up most of what i have planted as seed!
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had so many thefts from the hugel i thought i would set a trap. in the morning i had cat prints in the soil and the trap had gone. found it later on in the grass with some flesh left under the trap part but everything else had been eaten. since then the seed theft has stopped!
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got my first peas coming up and found one broad bean ready to sprout as i planted more peas. think it is going to spring into life at any moment! timing was good with all this rain.
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got peas and broad beans coming up all over the place. it would seem the moles have moved in underneath the mounds. is this a problem? bet it is nice and warm in there!
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had broad beans and peas coming up now they are up! up with the roots too! something has pulled about 200 peas right out of the ground and half eaten the pea bit and all the beans have been snapped at the base of the stem! very, very disappointing! seems so pointless! >:(
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got loads of peas and beans coming up now. the top soil is cracking all over at the moment and the whole thing has shrunk by about a third.
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all is going well!
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Looking good!
I've got squash plants on my little heap, they seem very happy, have "mulched" with some sheep fleece to deter slugs and this also seems to be keeping the pile hot. How hot is too hot for a squash I wonder?
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thats really interesting, could you put a thermometer in and take a reading? ive assumed that the carbon-nitrogen ratio would be too low with hugelkultur to generate much heat.
i would think that unless you are getting 150degf plus, your squash will be fine.
160-180deg f is enough to sterilise a good compost heap.my last proper, quick heap hit 160 just for a few hours, that was watered with sheep dag stew!
it would be interesting to see the progress of the rot into the wood at its core.
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"mulched" with some sheep fleece to deter slugs
How are you doing that Yorkshire Lass? Do you just lay some fleece around the base of the plant?
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"mulched" with some sheep fleece to deter slugs
How are you doing that Yorkshire Lass? Do you just lay some fleece around the base of the plant?
you can do the same thing with wood chips. i use lime chips as that is what i have but anything is good except conifer. conifer has tannins in it!
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Looking good!
I've got squash plants on my little heap, they seem very happy, have "mulched" with some sheep fleece to deter slugs and this also seems to be keeping the pile hot. How hot is too hot for a squash I wonder?
i always grow queensland blue pumpkins. they are from OZ as is my lady. they handle heat very well and they can go without water even better. tough as they are!
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I have strawberries,carrots,beetroot,spinach and coriander growing well in the Hugel,at the front i decided to put some herbs in too,it is all growing very nicely except,we need more sun for those strawbs to ripen off :-\
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I have strawberries,carrots,beetroot,spinach and coriander growing well in the Hugel,at the front i decided to put some herbs in too,it is all growing very nicely except,we need more sun for those strawbs to ripen off :-\
i have lots of moles in mine! they seem to love it. but apart from that it is doing very well this end too. i think the wet must be helping. mine have shrunk to about half the size they were when finished!
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Only just cought this thread - Interesting thanks (although I must admit to feeling slightly upset at the picture with about 2 months of beautiful woodfuel being buried!!! It looked to be quite a few £££ worth of good timber!).
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Only just cought this thread - Interesting thanks (although I must admit to feeling slightly upset at the picture with about 2 months of beautiful woodfuel being buried!!! It looked to be quite a few £££ worth of good timber!).
hahahah, there is old apple wood in there too! i have cut down 60 trees there in the last 4 years and had about 10 tonne out on the back field and the farmer wanted it to start moving so came up with this. still got about another 20 tonne to burn and have burnt even more! if you need some come and get it! Bob the farmer will be well chuffed and i can get more manure on the site! :thumbsup:
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Only just cought this thread - Interesting thanks (although I must admit to feeling slightly upset at the picture with about 2 months of beautiful woodfuel being buried!!! It looked to be quite a few £££ worth of good timber!).
I use wet rotting stuff in my hugel beds - the stuff that would be rubbish for burning.
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Wool is straight off the sheep (hebridean). Stretched out a bit but mainly unrolled around stems.
I'll see if I've got a thermometer kicking around!
(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa416/YorkshireLass84/DSCI0128.jpg)