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Growing => Vegetables => Topic started by: escapedtothecountry on February 19, 2012, 07:14:17 pm

Title: Comfrey
Post by: escapedtothecountry on February 19, 2012, 07:14:17 pm
Having finally drained the pond, the next task is to grow myself some comfrey beds for use as fertiliser.

I've ordered seeds as opposed to plants.

Anyone done this before? Worth doing? Is it easy to grow from seed?

Jonathan
www.escapedtothecountry.com (http://www.escapedtothecountry.com)
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Rosemary on February 19, 2012, 07:24:24 pm
No idea about seeds - we've always use root cuttings of Bocking 14. In fact just waiting ofr the tenant of our old house to move out so that we can go and get a load for here  ;D
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: deepinthewoods on February 19, 2012, 07:26:13 pm
bocking 14 is the one reccomended for higher potassium levels, it doesnt set seed so has to be grown from root sections,
its that time again, anyone doing a mailout???
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: escapedtothecountry on February 19, 2012, 07:31:11 pm
I ordered some of these:- http://www.thompson-morgan.com/vegetables/all-other-vegetables/herbs/comfrey/214TM (http://www.thompson-morgan.com/vegetables/all-other-vegetables/herbs/comfrey/214TM)
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2012, 07:37:05 pm
bocking 14 is the one reccomended for higher potassium levels, it doesnt set seed so has to be grown from root sections,
its that time again, anyone doing a mailout???

We will be in mid-late April, when we'll be lifting a load from our old garden to plant here. PM me with your address if you can wait that long.  :)
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: bloomer on February 19, 2012, 07:46:06 pm
can i have some i can collect it :-)
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: deepinthewoods on February 19, 2012, 07:50:53 pm
thanks dan!

symphytum officinale is common comfrey, its still good as a fertiliser but not as pokey as bocking 14, symphytum uplandicum is the best for healing purposes.
amazing stuff comfrey, lawrence d hills was a genius, and is so under recognized, ffs he started the organic movement.

Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: escapedtothecountry on February 19, 2012, 08:11:11 pm
Just looking for it to help my plants / veg grow so cant wait to get it in! From what I've read it spreads easily so I assume attention needs to paid in ensuring its doesn't take over.
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Fleecewife on February 19, 2012, 11:05:54 pm
Bocking 14 spreads a bit but is fairly easy to dig out of somewhere you don't want it - and then pass it on to someone who wants to start a bed.  Comfrey from seed is scary as you might never be able to restrict its growth. The leaves seem to be smaller too and the plants altogether less impressive.   I think the bees will still love it.
Sorry - I'm still not up to digging up comfrey to send out this year although we have masses.  Anyone is welcome to come here and dig their own (South Lanarkshire)
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Dan on February 20, 2012, 08:12:22 am
can i have some i can collect it :-)

Of course you can.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Dan on February 20, 2012, 08:13:36 am
Just looking for it to help my plants / veg grow so cant wait to get it in! From what I've read it spreads easily so I assume attention needs to paid in ensuring its doesn't take over.

We never had any trouble with Bocking 14 spreading, over about 10 years. One root cutting = one plant.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Fleecewife on February 20, 2012, 03:22:21 pm
I think it depends on just how you use it, and how neat and tidy you are. I bury a bunch of chopped Bocking 14 leaves in the planting holes of my tomatoes and the odd bit of that seems to root.  I did have a large bed of 100 comfrey plants near a fence and I now have none on this side of the fence, where the sheep grazed it down to nothing, but plenty on the other side, further away than just being from a spreading plant.  Either they seeded themselves, which shouldn't be possible, or small bits were flicked by the chomping sheep and have taken root. I also have a lot of Bocking 14 which has magically appeared in my bramble area - I haven't used it as a mulch here and have no idea how it has spread, but it has
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Slavo on February 22, 2012, 09:19:32 pm
I have received some comfrey roots from Fleecewife last year. Now that I have my new allotment  :thumbsup: as soon as it is I will send 3 people some root cuttings and if each of those 3 send it to 3 more then the whole forum will have their own comfrey  ;D
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: FiB on February 22, 2012, 10:08:57 pm
Please?!!!  I went to a seed website, added a load of herbal seeds (inc comfry), got to checkout and backed out (being in a new age of austerity!).  I would love a cutting and love a 'pay it forward' cutting and seed system.  Yipee.  I can offer lots of packets of seeds that I got free in mags last year but dont have good enough beds (yet) to plant - carrots etc.  Will list elsewhere.
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: little blue on February 22, 2012, 10:13:36 pm
I'm up for more comfrey - never seems to be enough here!
 :brocolli:(ok its brocoli, but its green!)
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: deepinthewoods on February 22, 2012, 10:31:37 pm
  I would love a cutting and love a 'pay it forward' cutting and seed system.  Yipee.  I can offer lots of packets of seeds that I got free in mags last year but dont have good enough beds (yet) to plant - carrots etc.  Will list elsewhere.

me too. swapshop?
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Fleecewife on February 23, 2012, 12:17:50 am
I have received some comfrey roots from Fleecewife last year. Now that I have my new allotment  :thumbsup: as soon as it is I will send 3 people some root cuttings and if each of those 3 send it to 3 more then the whole forum will have their own comfrey  ;D

Thank you slavo that's a lovely idea  :thumbsup: :) :wave:  I can't dig my own stuff up anymore so it will mean that in a way I am still passing some on  8)
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Muc on February 23, 2012, 10:03:28 am
I've always been confused :-\ by the advice to use 'wilted' comfrey leaves. Surely the chemical composition does not alter by wilting.
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: deepinthewoods on February 23, 2012, 10:06:23 am
no, but it does mean its easier to use.
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: hensintheorchard.blogspot.com on March 04, 2012, 06:53:26 pm
 :-\Hi
Can you tell me what colour flowers are usually on comfrey plants as there are white flowers on mine and most of the ones in books are pinky/blue flowers. I read somewhere that the white flowers are quite a rare variety. But before I brew it up to make fertilizer for my plants, I just want to check it is comfrey. The leaves are exactly the same as the pinky/blue ones. It spreads like a weed in my garden even growing up in between paving slabs.
Many thanks
Sarah
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Fleecewife on March 04, 2012, 10:41:22 pm
Bocking 14 has pinky/blue flowers.  The one which grows at the roadside up here in Scotland has pale cream flowers and spreads by seeds - don't know its botanical name.
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: Lesley Silvester on March 05, 2012, 12:03:49 am
Would I need much space to grow some?
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: tygrysek75 on March 11, 2012, 08:56:05 pm
This stuff is a weed in my garden,had used loads as fertilizer last year,but really need reduce this as taking over my garden,luckly my hens helping out by eating the stuff thru the winter as it was only plant that had been growing thru winter.really surprised as they did not tuch this at all during summer.
Title: Re: Comfrey
Post by: darkbrowneggs on March 11, 2012, 10:09:50 pm
If anyone wants to visit and dig up some, they are welcome.  :thumbsup: Its Bocking 14  and I am in Worcestershire between Bromyard and Malvern.  Pm me  :)