The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Smallholding => Buildings & planning => Topic started by: MikeM on December 08, 2011, 03:36:20 pm
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which is worse than bats in my belfry. We seem to have some unpaying lodgers in our loft space which we are quite keen to evict. Thing is, we're not sure what the best method is; poison or traps, nor whether it's something we can do or is it better to get someone in. We're a bit wary of using poison as we have 3 cats, and there are a couple of cats around us and we're concerned about them eating the poisoned rats. However, access is a bit challenging in places (it being a 400 yr old property), so traps may be hard to place.
Any thoughts much appriated.
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A lot of the poisons work really quickly, I actually found one dead in the entrance to the bait box
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find a friend with a proven ratting cat or small terrier introduce to loft and listen for the carnage....
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MikeM,
I don't know what your local council are like but I saw a rat in the garden. I rang the local council and they sent a man to sort it out. He put some poison down and was careful that it couldn't be got at by our pets. He also checked the loft space for me to make sure it was all clear.
He came back a week later to check that all was well and then a month after that too. Excellent service and it didn't cost me anything. Might be worth a try.
Sally
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Bionic,
I didn't think of that. I shall give em a call tomorrow. Thanks.
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The council cut its free pest service a few years ago so we are regular users of a local firm who are quick and brilliant dealing with the wasps nest in summer and the influx of mice every winter.
He came a month ago and left about 15 bait stations which he checked a week or so ago. Mikey our terrier cross axe murderer tells us when there's an infestation. If they come above the floor boards he executes them. He's damn fast and very persistent.
We have some feral cats in the stables (supplied by one of the cat charities) which do an efficient job outdoors.
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I once looked around an old thatch house which had a couple of very dead cats in the loft. I was told cats were thrown up there to keep the mice and rats under control - no food = dead cat but no rats!!
Although we have no evidence of rats or mice we thought of getting a cat ( off free cycle !!) as our attic adjoins the barn. According to my 80 year old neighbour - we already have a cat - guess what it lives in our barn !! Some mornings we now see a black cat sat in the field waiting to pounce. Maybe he has exhausted his food supply in the barn and other buildings.
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I once looked around an old thatch house which had a couple of very dead cats in the loft. I was told cats were thrown up there to keep the mice and rats under control - no food = dead cat but no rats!!
Although we have no evidence of rats or mice we thought of getting a cat ( off free cycle !!) as our attic adjoins the barn. According to my 80 year old neighbour - we already have a cat - guess what it lives in our barn !! Some mornings we now see a black cat sat in the field waiting to pounce. Maybe he has exhausted his food supply in the barn and other buildings.
That is pure cruelty. It is a well known fact that cats hunt better if they are fed regularly. They are fitter and therefore better at their job. And what is the point of dead cats - the rats and mice will just come back. They are not daft!
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and the possibility of the house being stinking and full of maggots and flies :farmer:
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we do have 3 cats, but our tom is a bit old, arthritic (and, well stupid and useless frankly) to be a reliable hunter. The kittens are only 3 months old, but are certainly showing all the signs of being terrific hunters. In a couple of months maybe.
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Since it's inside you could try the bicarb and oats stuff. I used it outside so it got a bit air damp but haven't seen any rats for a while so it may have worked.
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i think it's time you gave your cat there walking papers go see someone with a lot of barn cats i find the female cat make the mousers
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What is the bicarb and oats stuff please
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Wouldn't advise poison in the house. The rats are going to die, rot and stink somewhere hidden. We had one die above the bedroom ceiling above the bed; it rotted and soaked into the plasterboard and fetched the paint off. First thing is to find out how they are getting in and block it in Spring, when they are out. Traps with peanut butter or chocholate drops work well, but tie them down or they will wander off with them.
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make sure your water tank is covered. my mum in law had to have loads of tests because she had rats in her loft. the insulation will need replacing as its now contaminated. and the people doing it will need protective clothing.
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Big sympathies, we tried to combat ours using generally available poison but eventually resorted to the concil rat man - absolutely fantastic! Our house has obviously had a longstanding rat history - it used to be a barn, the walls are 2 fot thick and the rat man said there will be ancient rat runs within the walls from underground so blocking entrances is not an option. He used much larger bait than we could buy (it was pink grain), inspected our whole property and land and came back 3 times untill they were gone. Think we have a dead one up there from the smell, but trust it will just desicate over time (I did find a desicated old one up there when I was up last). I have no intention of looking for it (we too have very restricted access and a lot of insulation - layers and lyers of it!) or replacing the insulation unless very bad things will happen if I dont? (I can cope with a damp patch Vs emptying the loft and reinsulating!). Our water tanks are very sealed luckily. Anyway - Council chap every time for me - £37 well spent. Good luck
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I guess I was lucky as out council chap was free. He did a fantastic job and called back on a couple occasions to check his work. I would definitely recommend trying the council, free or otherwise.
Sally
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I would recommend the council too - ours - east riding of yorks - came out for free and were very effective