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Food & crafts => Food processing => Topic started by: humphreymctush on October 31, 2011, 12:42:15 pm

Title: MINCER
Post by: humphreymctush on October 31, 2011, 12:42:15 pm
I am planning to start making sausages. Electrtic mincers seem to range in price from £40-£800.
Can anyone recomend a mincer for under £200 that will be mince fast. It wont be going all day but I will be making quite a lot at a time.
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: robert waddell on October 31, 2011, 12:57:45 pm
the cheaper ones will do the job but if you are running a lot through and often you are better getting the biggest one  it is far quicker (what would take 2 hours with a small one will take 20 min with a bigger one )
yes it seams a lot initially but look at the time saving :farmer:
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: humphreymctush on October 31, 2011, 01:40:36 pm
thanks for the advice.
 I have been told that a reverse function in a mincer is essential, do you agree?
Also I notice that some of the cheaper ones are still very powerful and more watts than some of the big expensive ones. Are they still slower?
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: pikilily on October 31, 2011, 01:48:11 pm
Strongly reccomend the 'Gastrobach' GMBH 1000w. Does the trick nicely.... I made 20kg of sausages this year. and it barely drew breath!

Has the reverse function, minces, sausage fittings etc etc. It has a thermostat and temperature reader so it will tell you when it is getting hot !! Oh, I love it!!!  OH recons it was approx £130

Emma T
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: humphreymctush on October 31, 2011, 03:24:10 pm
emma, I found that mincer on ebay for £132 inc postage. It looks like a good compromise between a cheap domestic model and a full comercial mincer.
It has a maximum operating time of 30 minutes. Is this a problem in your experience? How long do you wait for it to cool before you can go again? or do you get such a mountain of mince after 30 mins that you dont need to?
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: pikilily on October 31, 2011, 06:13:57 pm
to be honest I didnt find that interfered with my production....must admit I forgot/didnt realise the time limit...Mine certainly didnt switch off or cut off in the middle of anything i was doing. You naturally will take breaks to move other equipment around or to get the next bucket of meat etc, or to mix your herbs etc into the mince for the next flavour...
 ....so in short i didnt find it a problem.  I take it you are thinking of sausages for domestic, not commercial purposes.

One thing that i found really good, was to get the butcher who cuts my carcasses for me to mince the broch - it took him minutes with his super-big commercial mincer (he didnt charge me for doing this)- then all i was concentrating on was the sausage making!... the fun bit, that still took quite a few hours
emma T
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: HappyHippy on October 31, 2011, 06:33:23 pm
I've got a great wee mincer that I bought from Northern Tools (cost around £80) and minced and made suasages with that last year without any problems, it had all the stuffing attachements, reverse function, different mincer plates etc.
But then I was sausage making with Lillian who has a seperate 'stuffer' - horizonal one, clamps to the table with a turn handle and I've got to say........it's soooooooo much quicker. So quick infact that it's faster to do the 2 hour return trip to borrow it and make sausages than it is to use my mincer with the stuffer attachements.
If you're only make small quantities of sausages an all in one mincer/stuffer is okay and you'll get by fine, but if you're going to be doing lots of them it's definately worth getting a seperate stuffer  ;)
Karen  :wave:
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: VSS on October 31, 2011, 06:49:14 pm
We have got a Trespade machine - it is fantastic! Really solid and goes through the meat at a fair old lick and you don't need to cut it too small first either.

We were lucky enough to find ours second hand, for about £140 but you might find something here http://www.weschenfelder.co.uk/catalog/12005/electric_mincers (http://www.weschenfelder.co.uk/catalog/12005/electric_mincers)

Towards the top end of your budget, but solid machines. We had a couple of cheaper "starter" mincers intitally, but mananged to kill both of them
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: robert waddell on October 31, 2011, 10:39:54 pm
have never come across the thermal cut out mincers     but in other walks of life they are crap you are just hanging about waiting for it kick back in  (welders etc)
the mincer from northern tools was very good for the price and is still going but its  flow rate is sloooow alright for newbies and inexperienced    once you learn you don't want to be standing for hours when minutes are all that is required
we now have the Torrey no 22 on the weschenfelder catalog        Lillian is sore on machines and has not managed to kill any doing sausages :farmer:
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: The Mobile Butcher on November 01, 2011, 03:58:13 pm
Hi,
 I would agree with Robert, weschenfelder had a good choice in price and range, stick to them and you wont go far wrong.
www.weschenfelder.co.uk
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: Plantoid on November 01, 2011, 08:54:21 pm
Quite a few of my friends on a shooting site i frequent also speak very highly of the weschenfelder mincers for all sorts of mincing in large quantities ( say in excess of 30 kg at a time ).

One also speaks highly of the one from northern tools as he does not normally do the larger batches of venison , pork , mutton or beef  like the others do.

 

Re thermal fuses lots of machines have thermal fuses for protection of the insulation of the armature windings should they overheat , it is not just cheap low powered machines that have them , quite a lot of high spec machines will have them as well  but not bother to mention them in the advertizing blurbs .
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: humphreymctush on November 16, 2011, 08:44:31 am
For anyone who's interested, I ended yup with an unused Beem Gigant mincer from ebay for £180. I have already made lots of sausages and I am very pleased. I think these mincers retail for about £500 so I did quite well.

One thing I like is that being German its not called a mincer but rather a Fleischwolf. So I call it my "Flesh Wolf".

So far I have made sausages out of a load of 2.79/KG lidl pork chops. Our favorite so far is an Italian recipe with Paprika, fennel sugar and redwine vinegar. Soon our neigbours will be butchering their weaners so it will be interesting to see how much tastier they are.

I have a dozen old ducks that need culling so I think rather than pluck them I will make sausages using the breasts and add pork fat and prunes and spring onoins to the mix. what do you think?
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: The Mobile Butcher on November 16, 2011, 08:56:26 am
hi,
glad you got your mincer, and enjoy your sausages...........they always taste better when you make your own.
I recon as long as you put enough pork fat into your duck ones they will turn out great too.... they will be a richer taste.
 I would have to do half as sausages and pluck and roast the other ducks, as Roast duck is one of my favourites. ;D
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: Rich/Jan on November 16, 2011, 09:59:03 am
We bought a mincer off ebay - about £40 like new.  We wanted it sent to France so used Parcels please as our carrier.   The people who owned the mincer agreed to package it ready for the courier and asked if we were interested in a sausage stuffer as well.  They had previously been in the butchery trade.  We couldnt believe our luck - bought the whole lot and paid the carriage for under £100.  Have used it and cant wait for our weaners to be ready later this year.  We also made boudin noir (black pudding).  Really easy to do and lovely taste.  Freezes well.
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: princesspiggy on November 25, 2011, 11:50:34 pm
are all hand powered mincers rubbish or just the i bought?
it was new for £20 off ebay(traditional clamp one), but it literally purrees the meat which comes back out the entrance whole.
and it can only take the tenderest steak or gets jammed.

im needing to get a new sausage maker / mincer and would prefer manual but dont want to buy another rubbish one.
 :wave:
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: robert waddell on November 26, 2011, 01:44:45 am
sounds like the Archimedes screw is fubarred         the small electric meat grinder that northern tools sell is a very good starter one but it depends on what you value most  your time (with an expensive one)  or your effort (with a cheap one)        the Torry mincer takes 20 min to do the same amount as the northern tools one and i takes 2 hours   better with a hand cranked sausage stuffer it goes at your pace :farmer:
Title: Re: MINCER
Post by: melodrama on November 26, 2011, 12:25:45 pm
I just bought the Breville one from Argos - half price at 57 quid and it has been perfect - and there is a 3 year guarantee which will replace the model, even once it goes back to full price - bargain!