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Smallholding => Buildings & planning => Topic started by: Greenerlife on October 03, 2011, 03:53:13 pm

Title: what would you do?
Post by: Greenerlife on October 03, 2011, 03:53:13 pm
OK - so my neighbour applies for planning permission to build garages and stables and is turned down.  he amends the plans resubmits and is turned down again.  No further applications are forthcoming.

This morning I awake to a new garage block - at least three possibly four cars worth.  Should I grass him up to the council?  i am sure he has taken up some agricultural land to build.
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: Bionic on October 03, 2011, 04:02:41 pm
Are the garages a problem to you?  If so I would definitely inform the council.

If they aren't a problem then maybe for the sake of keeping in with your neighbour I wouldn't say anything. 

However, if there is no love lost between you anyway then let the council know regardless.

Sally
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: deepinthewoods on October 03, 2011, 06:23:20 pm
i would turn a blind eye,and put up your own.....
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: knightquest on October 03, 2011, 06:28:31 pm
Find out who builds something that big overnight. They're worth their weight............ ;D

Ian
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: Greenerlife on October 06, 2011, 09:22:16 am
Thanks for the replies.  Still don't know what to do.  It appears that they have indeed gone ahead without planning permission.  I don't have a problem with the garages, although I don't like people who do as they like without any regard for the law. I do have a problem with them using agricultural land to extend their "garden" as do other neighbours.  For instance they have now installed their kids trampoline right in front of a neighbours kitchen window (overlooked pastureland before), and they have "built" a raised football pitch, also on agricultural land, built a new entrance to the property (agricultural land), torn down an ancient hedge, prior to applying for planning etc etc.  When the planning was refused they were told this was not permissable, but they've just done it anyway.  The ironic thing is that jointly with this person, we bought land to prevent the previous owners from change of use! 
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: Rosemary on October 06, 2011, 09:36:05 am
I'd grass him up. He sounds like a total, selfish tosser.
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: robert waddell on October 06, 2011, 10:20:50 am
it looks very much like they are going to apply for retrospective planning permission (once the building work is done the council planning members come out on a bus trip deliberate on the pros and cons of the unauthorised development  depends on how many are in his favour he gets away with it )
it looks like he is playing with a stacked deck :farmer:
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: faith0504 on October 06, 2011, 10:50:31 am
Im with Rosemary,
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: Fowgill Farm on October 06, 2011, 11:23:56 am
I'd dob him in too, sounds like hes taking the proverbial.
They're not pikeys by any chance, round here they buy land build a house and then put in planning, council scuppered them on their latest one by refusing them access across road to tap in sewage/drainage and electric board refused to connect them on advice from council as property has no planning or building regs!! so now they've got what i admit is a lovely house with no mains electric or sewage, they have to kip in their kezzas parked on drive & lawn tee hee!!!!
Mandy  :pig:
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: feldar on October 06, 2011, 12:13:24 pm
Dob him in; if you only knew the trouble i've had applying for planning for a barn down here that is desperately needed for us to lamb in. The meetings we've had and the green brigade that have objected on the stupidest reasons possible ,We applied legally and complied with everything and they still wont come to a decision.
I am so hacked off with the planning office.
These people should not be allowed to get away with this
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: robert waddell on October 06, 2011, 12:21:33 pm
fowgill     the council cant stop them connecting into the sewer unless the sewerage works is over capacity

they also cant stop them taking occupancy of the house  they can pay for disposal of sewerage by vac tanker
feldar    if you cant beat them join them  just build and put in for retrospective planning if your building is queried :farmer:
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: feldar on October 06, 2011, 03:51:40 pm
I'm begining to wish we had now, we could of hidden it behind the wood and they wouldn't know it was there.
Trouble is now they know about it wont they come looking to see if we've done just that. They are really hot on things like this down here, one guy had to demolish a whole extension when he was caught without planning.
we will go to appeal anyway on welfare grounds
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: Fowgill Farm on October 07, 2011, 10:26:35 am
Oh Robert they can stop connecting - the council own the land they have to dig thro to connect and will not give access.
Mandy  :pig:!
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: robert waddell on October 07, 2011, 11:20:41 am
no not correct they can fight it and win :farmer:
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: waterhouse on October 10, 2011, 11:10:51 pm
These people will cause you trouble if not stopped
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: SallyintNorth on October 11, 2011, 12:57:50 am
I'd grass him up. He sounds like a total, selfish tosser.

Now you see, that's where I want the Like button!  :D  (46,754 people agree with you Rosemary  :D)
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: lachlanandmarcus on October 11, 2011, 08:26:43 am
I wouldnt dob a neighbour in for something minor, and believe live and let live .........but a building of that scale to me would worry me - it would suggest their approach to 'authority and society in general' might also cause neighbour problems in the future.

Alarm bells also rang about the garage/stable combo - down in home counties where we used to live the standard traveller ply was to build stables 'for the osses' - always brick, oddly, with windows etc .....and then move in and extend and then take 5 years odd and hundreds of thousands of council money to fight to get them out again. In green belt, flood plain etc etc.

Sooo, I would possibly be dobbing them in for something of this size, since if this is the start, where will they stop.....
Title: Re: what would you do?
Post by: bazzais on October 14, 2011, 08:00:33 pm
He'll be caught and made to make retrospective plans eventually, I would think.  If you want to speed up the process, thats upto you :)

Whats the garages going to be used for? Thats what I'd ask first off.

Baz