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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: trefnantbach on July 01, 2011, 01:43:59 pm

Title: cost of shearing?
Post by: trefnantbach on July 01, 2011, 01:43:59 pm
How much can I expect to pay per ewe for shearing?
I've only got nine but Just haven't got the time to do it myself this year. I've got someone lined up for the job, but he probably won't expect anything for the job but he's done me several favours already  so I want to pay him the going rate.
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: Shnoowie on July 01, 2011, 05:10:01 pm
We had 12 Ryelands sheared and it cost us £40 in total :)
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: Anke on July 02, 2011, 10:34:01 pm
My 25 cost me 60 quid, plus a couple of jars of (home) honey as a tip. He did a great job, really no cuts at all and was a great chat too.

If your shearer refuses to take money a few home-produced treats may be a good way of paying.... we usually find that sausages, honey and jams are really well received. (and yes I know the sausages are probably highly illegal, so far no flashing sirens up our lane though...)
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: trefnantbach on July 02, 2011, 11:51:38 pm
He asked for £20 for shearing our nine when I pressed him so I gave him £30. He's always ready to help if I'm stuck. What's so dodgy about your bangers?
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: waterhouse on July 03, 2011, 08:55:06 am
£50 for 12 but that was peak shearing season and in the south east
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: morri2 on July 03, 2011, 03:45:02 pm
We have just had our 35 sheared.  11 Bowmonts and the rest Polled Dorsets.  Last year we paid £1 per sheep for a good job, hardly any cuts and nics.  This year it was disasterous - not just nics and cuts but deep wounds.  One shearer cut half of one of my Dorset's ear off, one Bowmont ewe suffered a cut udder, so deep the milk was coming out (didn't touch the teat thankfully, although we'll have to see how she heals), another Bowmont lost a huge chunk of her rather loose neck (they have necks like camels!!) These were  the worst injuries, there were many other not so serious gashes which look dreadful. The shearers were warned that extra care would be needed when shearing the Bowmonts as they are very difficult, and they were also warned about the loose skin on their necks, but clearly chose not to heed the warnings in their rush to get to the next job.  And then, on top of all this carnage they told us it would cost £90!!!  Just wait until the bill arrives.  I'll be straight on to the boss.  I don't mind paying for a good clean  job - we offered to pay more for the Bowmonts anyway due to the problems involved with shearing them, but not for such substandard workmanship.....and they were wearing their championship wining T shirts  :o ??? ::)
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: shep53 on July 03, 2011, 05:06:13 pm
I presume the udder needed glued or stitched plus antibiotics , i would phone the contractor and say he will get the vets bill !!!!
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: egglady on July 03, 2011, 06:05:02 pm
we got our 3 shetlands done (have more than that but the rest were roo'd) and we were charged £30.  He says that was his 'call out fee' and cos we only had 3 sheep, he didnt charge us for each of the sheep as well!  and i gave his some sausages and eggs..beginning to think that maybe that was a bit expensive......
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: egglady on July 03, 2011, 06:05:43 pm
and forgot to say that he also cut one of them really really badly
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: SingingShearer on July 03, 2011, 08:24:53 pm
Hi Morri2.

It sounds like you have had some very inexperienced shearers. I have sheared Polwarths and Corriedale crosses which I would think won't be too different to your Bowmonts and I found that with the right gear they are easier than some British breeds.

If you need any help next year I would be happy to see if I can come as I am willing to take the time to do a good job.

Hope your sheep aren't in too much of a mess.
Philip :sheep:
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: Sylvia on July 03, 2011, 09:32:36 pm
I had my five Shetlands (as wild as hawks :o) and my three Ouessants shorn on Friday by the good boy up the lane from me. Beautifully shorn (I was tempted to ask him to do my hair :D) kind, calm and capable. I traded a roll of  unwanted electric poultry fencing.
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: Anke on July 03, 2011, 09:43:11 pm
I hand-clipped the Bowmonts last year, and found them a bit tedious and slow, and the clippers got blunt quite quickly... but really not that difficult. In comparison to Shetlands there was not a rise as such, so more care needed.

I am sorry it was such a disastrous experience, hopefully the udder will heal! And yes I would not pay the bill without a huge fuss (if you have alternative shearers available for next year).

Re: my bangers, nothing bad about them, just home-made and as such illegal to trade....
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: morri2 on July 03, 2011, 09:57:02 pm
Hi Phil,  Thanks for the offer there.  Good to hear there is actually a shearer with the experience of such fine wool. I was beginning to wonder whether it was just my sheep!! The guys who sheared my flock were allegedly championship standard  ::).  I may well take you up on your offer if OH doesn't get around to his shearing course again this year. I was thinking about you when our first shearing session failed to transpire, but I thought north Wales would be too far.  We all learn from our mistakes.   Cheers!! :wave:

Anke, firstly thanks for your for previous advice regarding shearing the Bowmonts.  Nigel did, as my post here says, warn them of the problems you pointed out previously, also another lady who has two Bowmonts from me earlier this year advised me to point out the loose neck problem  as her two suffered bad wounds to their necks thanks either inexperienced or negligent shearers. Although I doubt they were as bad as one of my poor sheepies, who now has a chunk of neck missing. See piccie attached which will show you what I mean.  The Bowmont with the cut udder looks as though she'll heal OK, thanks - just keeping a close eye on her now.   :wave:
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: piggy on July 03, 2011, 10:03:27 pm
I would just like to recomend the singing shearer he came and sheared my 6 a few months ago,not a single cut on any of them,i did look at doing them myself but when you whey up the costs and stress of doing it yourself its really not worth it,by costs i mean if you were to pay yourself for all the hours took taking up to sheering and the stress it just doesnt add up.
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: SingingShearer on July 04, 2011, 02:05:53 pm
Hi,

Thanks for the recommendation piggy.

Morri2,

North Wales isn't too far as I have some jobs within walking distance of the border, although I have never quite managed to get into Wales yet.
I have a lot of customers who can't find a shearer who is happy to shear the more difficult breeds, but I like the challenge of doing a good job where some people would refuse to even try.

Anke,

Bowmonts, having been bred from Merinos probably won't get any rise and the shears will have to work harder to cut the wool. So they will need to be much sharper than normal dagging shears which is what most people use.

Thanks,
Philip :sheep:
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: OhLaLa on July 04, 2011, 03:57:04 pm
Sorry to hear about that morri2. I would definitely query the bill. Terrible. I would have hit the roof. Name and shame.

I 've noticed no prices ever given for the singing shearer. Would anyone like to throw a bit of light on this?

 :sheep:
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: SingingShearer on July 04, 2011, 04:22:29 pm
Yes, I cannot give a list of prices because every job is different, for example some sheep are more difficult to shear and some people are very badly organised which can affect the price. Also some jobs I will take a generator and shearing trailer which has to be factored in so it is much easier to talk to each customer and work a price out from the information given.

If I have to travel a long way then I have to charge for that too which would make giving a list of prices almost impossible. I do have a minimum charge per job unless the flock is over a certain number, after which I charge per sheep.

Hope this helps,
Philip :sheep:
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: OhLaLa on July 04, 2011, 04:38:01 pm
.........some people are very badly organised which can affect the price.

Have to agree with that.

Anyhow, sounds like you do a good job  :)  and you must have good stories.......
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: Dougal on July 06, 2011, 02:24:32 pm
Most commercial shearers really don't want to set up for small numbers of sheep. Most decent shearers want to clip about 200 head a day. It's a short season and they are trying to run a commercial business which makes it difficult to justify all the fixed costs involved with shearing very small flocks. The cost of transport and the gear that they use is the same to turn out to clip 10 is the same as with 200! commercially here in the NE of scotland we tend to charge around £1.10 but with small lots we normally just chat about an agreeable price. 30 notes for less than 10, 50 for anything up to about 40 head. With these small lots it is often better to try and transport them to a local farm and have them clipped by the lads while the farmer is having his own big flock clipped.

Hope that seems like a reasonable guide.
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: SingingShearer on July 06, 2011, 02:53:38 pm
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Most commercial shearers really don't want to set up for small numbers of sheep. Most decent shearers want to clip about 200 head a day. It's a short season and they are trying to run a commercial business which makes it difficult to justify all the fixed costs involved with shearing very small flocks

I am what you would call a commercial shearer and can shear over 200 a day but I will also happily set up for 1 sheep as they all need shearing, obviously these customers have to pay more but are mostly happy to save their backs and their sheep. For a small flock, to save setting everything up I use a motor in handpiece and a small board.

Thanks,
Philip :sheep:
Title: Re: cost of shearing?
Post by: Dougal on July 06, 2011, 03:34:27 pm
Just as a foot note. I know it's getting late in the season but if anyone needs sheep shorn in the NE of Scotland I am available. As with the singing shearer I'm a commercial set up so I have all the equipment needed to take on almost any size of job from 1 to 2000. Small lots don't worry me in the slightest, I enjoy the banter!