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Community => Marketplace => Topic started by: littlemisspiggy! on June 19, 2011, 08:04:40 am
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We have 3 left for sale,they will be ready on july 22nd,we have 1 girl and 2 boys left,mixed colours...back n white,white n black and a red with black mask and white on!
£200 each.£50 deposit secures
tel : 07792902299 for details or to come and see them..
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crossed with what?
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crossed with what?
Must be something special to be worth £200 a pup. :o
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wish we could get £200 a pup we have had pups go to be mountain rescue dogs and agility and that is pure collies :farmer:
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wouldn't pay that for a cross breed maybe £20
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Let's just take the emotion out of this discussion and face facts!
wouldn't pay that for a cross breed maybe £20
You'll have a job to get crossbreeds for that price in the UK these days!
Standard price for a Registered pure bred puppy of any breed ranges from £400 to £1800 depending on breed/breeding/health checks etc. Designer dogs go for anything in that same range, sometimes more. God knows why, because health checks aren't usually done and it's usually mediocre dogs that are bred from because they don't succeed in any other field. But crossbreeds with no particular name can be anything from £50/£75 upwards for a pup at 7 weeks +. If it is a lab/collie cross they are popular and will sell for about £200. Again, I have no idea why. I wouldn't have one in a gift!
Even the rescue societies don't charge less than £100 and that's for mostly adult dogs with unknown parentage, unknown inherent health problems, and unknown age, AND they insist on neutering so they can't be bred from - now THAT is a good thing!
If this litter has been thoughtfully reared with good food, wormed, and properly weaned, and the parents are good workers, and have good temperaments I see no reason for the price to be wrong. Having said that I personally wouldn't own a crossbreed or mongrel - but that's just me. There is no such thing as 'hybrid vigour' in dogs, in fact the opposite can be the case if health checks are not done.
I would ask, does this litter have these attributes?
JMHO
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And if you want proof - from a friend's face book page right this minute:
there are German setters advertised for 200quid in the paper. who can guess what they are!
German shorthaired pointer x Irish Setter
and Chirussells for 300quid
GSD X Setter? Or would they be Irish Shepherds!
Yeah your right .
Pugapoo's in our local paper ... £600 each!!
Call me a purist but I'm just not a fan of any of these "designer" crossbreeds!
Ive been told anything with poo in the name sells like hot cakes!Some of these large breed cross ups is scary,dread to think what they will be like as adults!
There are Great Dane X Newfoundland puppies in our local paper!!!
A few months ago there was a newfie x poodle. Wouldn't like to be their groomers!
Up here a while ago there was Basset Hound x Boston Terriers in the papers - Apparently his vet told him that the Basset x Boston litter was an ok cross to do
I laughed at my neighbour when he proudly told he his dog was a cockerpoo - I don't think he understood why I was laughing...I just can't believe the prices people are prepared to pay, and then they back it up with "it's better than a pure-bred dog with health problems".
I know. Especially when they proudly tell you they had to have an overnight trip when they went to buy it as it was x amount of miles and they spent 2k on it! Err you do know that if you looked in the paper you would have had a choice from about 5 litters in your area lol
I have just learned to bite my tongue now- and say ' good luck with your vets bills'..........
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To me that price is fair, it sorts out the "go on let's have a pup" and the "we would love a dog and have given it lot's of thought"
Long gone are the days when you could go to the pet shop, market or pick up a dog from the paper for a few quid unless there was something wrong with it! After all, price and value is dependant on what people will pay, a bit like anything!! I say if you cannot afford £200 then you will not be able to afford to keep a dog!
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To me that price is fair, it sorts out the "go on let's have a pup" and the "we would love a dog and have given it lot's of thought"
Long gone are the days when you could go to the pet shop, market or pick up a dog from the paper for a few quid unless there was something wrong with it! After all, price and value is dependant on what people will pay, a bit like anything!! I say if you cannot afford £200 then you will not be able to afford to keep a dog!
Well said, Sandy! That's exactly what I think.
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Nothing to do with affording it just wouldn't pay it ;D have 2 large dogs that I love both rescues one Akidoor hahaha Akita x Labrador and an American Bulldog both rescues both cost me a lot more than £20 that was expected rescues need to pay their costs.
I just think this craze for crosses is a bit out of control. I went into our local shop today they have a new puppy, if they are to be believed, they have an Akita Timber wolf cross. A 6 month old it looks like it could be, not a nice dog growls at everything and everybody. We live in South Yorks and they say the dog has been bought in Glasgow. What next Hyenas, African Wild Dogs? Having a few hundred quid to throw at buying a dog does NOT make a good/responsible dog owner, why is it always about money and I know plenty of good people who are short of cash and plenty of loaded idiots
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http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=16150.0 (http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=16150.0) nuff said
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Nothing to do with affording it just wouldn't pay it ;D have 2 large dogs that I love both rescues one Akidoor hahaha Akita x Labrador and an American Bulldog both rescues both cost me a lot more than £20 that was expected rescues need to pay their costs.
I just think this craze for crosses is a bit out of control. I went into our local shop today they have a new puppy, if they are to be believed, they have an Akita Timber wolf cross. A 6 month old it looks like it could be, not a nice dog growls at everything and everybody. We live in South Yorks and they say the dog has been bought in Glasgow. What next Hyenas, African Wild Dogs? Having a few hundred quid to throw at buying a dog does NOT make a good/responsible dog owner, why is it always about money and I know plenty of good people who are short of cash and plenty of loaded idiots
But that is the point! We agree on that - but this litter is just an ordinary crossbreed litter - not designer dogs at all. That is where stupid Joe Bloggs is making the mistake. Thinks he gets a good quality pup if it has a fancy name and he pays a lot of money for it!
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I agree with Hatty and Anne, money is not what makes a good dog owner but it certainly pays the vet fees. We are definatly not flush with money but our dogs are like our babies and we would go without to treat them if needed, little sods have done in all thier poshish collars so they are back with the cheap ones!!!
I am always amazed at what clever marketing can do and how easy people are influenced, I would love to come up with a good desiger dog and sell it for loads and get a lot of recognition but, thats not us, thats why we are not flush!!
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We paid £100 for a border collie bitch last Novemeber from working parents (we bought from the shepherd). she's a beauty, a lovely big sook and is brilliantly well behaved around our sheep. I was expecting them to ask around £250 and was shocked and delighted at the £100 price tag (we had a choice of 3). Should have bought the other 2 and sold them at a profit by the sounds of things! :D
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There was a litter advertised on here recently stating they were 'Priced to sell...' I was horrified - Nothing like that to encourage - 'Ah heck, lets take two of them!' At least a higher price may encourage a little more thought before parting with cash and hopefully being thoroughly home checked etc before pup leaves...
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The price is for the exact reason as some of you have stated!!!! i dont want some 'doss along city idiot' thinking one night 'sod it lets have a dog' and then seeing me beautiful pup up 'free to good home' 5 mins later..to answer another question they are crossed with boxers..try getting one of them pure bred for less than £600!!!!!!!! i have had 4 of these litters in 4 years and have sold at this price every time!,i can name every single owner and every pups name and most send me pics on their b/days to show me how they have grown! 1, 'luna' from the first litter is at top level in doggy uni (agility and obediance) and most are well loved/well trained family pets and also the odd working dog..including our 2 ,18 month old sisters that we kept!!soo if you dont like it and only have £20 to spend........ :P :-* ;) ;D
We have pups sold to all kinds of people..1 in kent,1 in portugal!,1 on a barge up and down the country! and several up noth too..so some people must think their worth it!..i do!
So if you are wanting a lovely cross that will love you just the same no matter how much you pay! then come see me..
GOOD HOMES ONLY,NO OFFERS OR TIMEWASTERS........ :dog: :dog: :dog:
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That's an interesting cross, would you like to let us see some of the photos?
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Arh, a Box of collies or a BoardBox, or colliebox, that sounds nice. After all, how many of us are not crosses :)
I sell our labs and sometimes you get the odd phone call from some one wanting some thing under £100 and I do think that you need to be able to feed the dogs properly, get vets in when necessary and be able to give them the usual checks, jabs and de fleeed etc, mind you, I suppose we all have children that we eventualy cannot afford either :;)
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I believe I know Lunar and if she is the same (East Yorks area!!) and I think she must be then she is a lovely dog
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;D ;D ;D
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I have no wish to offend anyone.BUT in my honest opinion i think the desire for 'hippocrockapoos' is nothing more than a way of generating cold hard cash from 'beloved'pets. A bit of extra cash/income....that in recessive times get harder to sell on and quite often become a further strain on the animal welfare services.
However i don't believe this to be purely a thing of cross breeding i think there are plenty of unscrupulous people out there using their animals for cash.
KERRCHING..... :-[
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Is that not what farmers and smallholder do?
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Is that not what farmers and smallholder do?
But they don't think up fancy names to con people into thinking they are something special! I think that's the point - trying to get more money for mongrels than pure breds when it should be the other way around. My pal has a litter of labradoodles aged 13 weeks, no enquiries for them, so perhaps the tide is changing.
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Not sure about intentionally breeding these designer dogs - But Boxer x Collies are brilliant dogs - Such happy souls!!! And hopefully without the health problems prevalent in pedigree boxers. :D
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i dont get offended by what people say..each to their own...we dont give silly name sto ours..they are x breeds not fancy new breeds! yes that will be luna in south yorks.such a lovely dog she is too! ;D
we have x breed pigs that we sell too and as stated before dont we as smallholders breed and sell/eat our stock to try and make ends meat????
i am not a breeder in the sense that i have rows of kennels full of dogs! i have a few pet dogs and have had 1 litter per year for a few years and thats it..all are in the house and are pets first,well loved and well kept as all our animals are..they come first!!
we always worm and flea them and also they come with a starter pack incl food and toy,blanket,treats and so on...f i sold them for £20 it would cost me to give them away!!not really going to happen is it...
i will try to add some pics but i keep trying and even when i shrink them smaller than needed it doesn't work..i'll try again though!
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Simple, if some one wants to buy a type of dog then its thier choice, they are no more a stupid than people buying anything else!!!!!
The people that do need sorting out are those who just let thier dog out to wander and have pups from an unknown breed, any one buying a pup like that will take a chance of how it turns out, eg, someones cute little mugral thats calm and good with kids could have a night of love with an agressive big dog, the pups could end up snappy little killers!!
One little point, arn't all dogs crossed intialy to aquire the traites required?
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Not sure about intentionally breeding these designer dogs - But Boxer x Collies are brilliant dogs - Such happy souls!!! And hopefully without the health problems prevalent in pedigree boxers. :D
Not strictly true - if the boxer parent has the genes for a herditary condition it may well pass it on.
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One little point, arn't all dogs crossed intialy to aquire the traites required?
Yes, away back in the mists of time they are, but an awful lot of thought, knowledge, breeding, and work goes into creating individual breeds. It's not just a case of putting a bitch of one breed to a dog of another. Incidentally these designer cross breeds can't reproduce themselves - if you mate a cockerpoo to a cockerpoo you don't get more cockerpoos, you get cockers that are mismarked and all sizes, and poodles that are mismarked and all sizes, and run the risk of diseases from both breeds.The Kennel Club states that a breed must breed true to type for 7 generations before it can be registered with them.
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a pic finally..........this is one of the girls already sold..x.x.x.x
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Just gorgeous! :love: I love puppies of any sort. Had my fill on Wednesday - flatcoats in the morning then Doodles and GSPs in the afternoon. All sooooooo cuddly, and a couple of lovely week old foals too, a coloured and a bay. Bet you had fun clipping all those little toe pins! ::)
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Arhhhhhhhh, so cute, could watch pups all day as they are sweet and funny but you never seem to have the camera around when they do something!! Lovely!!
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only 2 left for sale now! :) :dog: :)
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Chap down the road from me has 30 acres and keeps Alpacas and a few sheep.
He has 2 collie cross labradors.
I already banned the bloody things from here for chicking killing.
Why anyone who has farm livestock wants a cross anything is beyond me...Get a working Collie pup for god sake ::).