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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: ambriel on May 03, 2011, 08:17:12 pm

Title: Poorly Hen
Post by: ambriel on May 03, 2011, 08:17:12 pm
Found one of our hens looking very sorry for herself this morning, when I opened up the henhouse; not moving, comb down.

I immediately put her into solitary in a box in the kitchen with plenty of food and water.

She's still looking poorly but at least she's still breathing, and none of the others are showing any signs of joining her.
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: Beewyched on May 03, 2011, 09:22:21 pm
Is she eating or drinking anything?
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: Castle Farm on May 03, 2011, 09:36:36 pm
I bet someone suggests worming her ::).

Is she leaking from behind?, suspect egg peritonitis. Liver/kidney damage due to feeding layers pellets.

Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: Beewyched on May 03, 2011, 09:40:00 pm
I bet someone suggests worming her ::).

Is she leaking from behind?, suspect egg peritonitis. Liver/kidney damage due to feeding layers pellets.



Layers cause organ damage  :o ???
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: ambriel on May 03, 2011, 10:58:36 pm
Yes there does appear to be a small amount of leakage. I put it down to runny poo.

They get fed good quality layer pellets as well as having free range access to the garden.

Doesn't appear to have taken any food or water.

I've just had a quick Google on the topic of egg peritonitis and it doesn't sound very good. Would it be better if I put her out of her misery now?
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: ambriel on May 04, 2011, 08:39:22 pm

Well she hung in there till this morning but sadly our dear little Speckles is no more.
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: Beewyched on May 04, 2011, 08:52:16 pm
Oh bless her, it's so sad when they go that way.  You did the best for her.
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: princesspiggy on May 04, 2011, 09:03:26 pm

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Layers cause organ damage  :o ???
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really...?... ???
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: Beewyched on May 04, 2011, 09:27:01 pm


Layers cause organ damage  :o ???
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really...?... ???
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Was hoping Castle Farm would come back on this one.
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: doganjo on May 04, 2011, 09:44:41 pm
I'd like an explanation too as mine have always been fed on layers pellets - they are layers after all. ??? ???
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: Beewyched on May 04, 2011, 10:02:38 pm
Going to do some research on this, as have always given mine layers pellets - organic of course  ;) in feeders in their housing, they don't eat loads as they free-range all over the holding.  I don't I give them grit either (unless they are running in temporary "breeding pens" for a few months).

Never knew giving layers could make them poorly  ???
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: northfifeduckling on May 04, 2011, 11:01:30 pm
That's the reason why there is on most manufacturer's packaging a guideline on how much pellets in weight per bird per day. Boys should not eat them at all as the high protein can give them kidney damage. Girls can also get egg bound which is fatal at times. My regime is wheat ad lib and pellets rather less than what it says on the bag and only in the morning...

Ambriel, so sorry you lost your Speckles  :bouquet:

:chook: :&>
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: ambriel on May 05, 2011, 08:05:32 pm

Thanks, it's par for the course when you have livestock though. She was a very friendly little hen.

I was concerned about the reference to layer pellets, too.

Our girls (and boy) are fed layer pellets but also have free access to half an acre of crazing (the bits that the pigs haven't reduced to looking like the Somme, that is).

I'd hate to think I'd brought on the condition in her.
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: deepinthewoods on May 05, 2011, 09:27:54 pm
 ???  ???how are you supposed to stop a cockerel eatin layers pellets then. i cant imagine mine being stopped from doin anything to be honest. but he is a beauty and id hate to lose him throuh him tuckin in to the layers the girls get.
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: northfifeduckling on May 05, 2011, 10:42:27 pm
I have no idea...our cockerel has a go every now and then (mainly to show the girls that there's food I think) but the drakes won't touch the pellets, they must have some instict.  :&>
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: doganjo on May 05, 2011, 11:31:50 pm
I have no idea...our cockerel has a go every now and then (mainly to show the girls that there's food I think) but the drakes won't touch the pellets, they must have some instict.  :&>
Now you've got me worried, Jack eats as much as the girls do, as there's little grass left in their run.
Title: Re: Poorly Hen
Post by: Beewyched on May 06, 2011, 08:04:19 am
Have had a quick look into this & from observing ours over the last 2 days I believe that as long as they are free-ranging they'll be ok.

The hens don't seem to be eating much layers - may be a handful or 2 between each flock per day (flocks of 6-8 plus cockeral), though I can't honestly say if the cockerals eat the layers or not.  The feeders are hung in their housing, so they have free access to it, they are let-out at about 6am this time of year, later in the winter.  They also have a couple of handfuls per flock in the yard, to "call" in the evening.

I guess that chucks, allowed to free-range & forage for themselves know instinctively what they need to balance their diets - certainly better than we do ;) ;D