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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: Floyd on January 23, 2011, 04:22:11 pm

Title: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: Floyd on January 23, 2011, 04:22:11 pm
Is it worthwhile rearing Kune Kune for meat.  Most people here raise full size pigs but killing two, prepring and butchering not only takes a lot of processing but also leave a hell of a lot of meat considering it would only be for two people.


If so what is the kill age/weight is thee food to weight conversion economical?

Any advice as usual greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: HappyHippy on January 23, 2011, 05:13:44 pm
I have Kune Kunes  ;D
They are wonderful little pigs, great to keep and so easy to manage - and make excellent, flavoursome pork albeit smaller than other breeds.
They do take a bit longer to reach slaughter weight at around 10 months, but this additional time is offset by the savings in feed costs. They are primarily grazers and will do really well purely on mixed pasture (if you've got plenty of space) Standard pig nuts have too high a protein level for them and will make them very fatty, so are best avoided. But I feed mine on a mix of fruit and veg, supplimented with wheat feed pellets when there is little grass (but only half the amount you would feed other pigs 1/2 a pound for each month of age, up to a maximum of 3 pounds per day per pig)
I'd recommend anyone wanting a small starter pig to consider these - there are plenty of folk who will sell weaners at a premium price (upwards of £100) and I think this puts off a lots of people who want to eat them. But there are good, pedigree weaners out there at reasonable prices - I've got 3, 5 month old weaners available at the minute and more piglets due within the next fortnight, if you fancy a trip to Scotland sometime  ;)
If there's anything else you'd like to know just ask away  :wave:
HTH
Karen x
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: oaklandspigs on January 23, 2011, 05:24:31 pm
Agree with HappyHippy, no problem with KK's as meat pigs, and yes don't overfeed ! 
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: welshlass181 on April 03, 2011, 10:16:33 pm
Hi all :) I've got Kune Kune crosses and i was wondering how much is the average slaughter cost?  Kill and the kill and cut preferably.  When i phoned up the "local" abattoir i was told £50 for pigs full stop.  Going to phone some more tomorrow and find out if size makes a difference.  Is it worth sending them for slaughter to sell the meat on? Failing that i am just going to keep them until they've distroyed my land
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: chickenfeed on April 04, 2011, 07:04:30 am
all 3 slaughter houses we use  charge per pig too only when they go over 200lb LW the price goes up.

the same applies for sheep and cattle i pay the same for a dexter to be killed as i would a limmi.
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: HappyHippy on April 04, 2011, 10:05:17 am
I get my local abattior to deliver the carcass to the butcher for me.
The kill cost is around £17 per pig and butchery is 80p per kilo, this works out cheaper for smaller pigs - might be worth asking around in your local area and find a butcher who gets deliveries from the slaughterhouse that would do your cut and pack a bit cheaper ?
HTH
Karen x
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: Beewyched on April 04, 2011, 10:16:29 am
Looks like we'll be bringing ours down to your abbatoir/butcher karen - none of our "local" abbatoirs take pigs anymore (Paisley) due to "lack of requests" & licensing  ::)

Others have quoted £50 slaughter  :o
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: HappyHippy on April 04, 2011, 10:22:25 am
Looks like we'll be bringing ours down to your abbatoir/butcher karen - none of our "local" abbatoirs take pigs anymore (Paisley) due to "lack of requests" & licensing  ::)

Others have quoted £50 slaughter  :o
Speak to Paisley again guys, I've sent them SPKA info with the hope that they'll reconsider the pigs  ;) So the more intrest/enquiries they get, the more chance there is that it'll change  ;D
It's Shotts abatoir I used last time, they deliver to a butcher in Wishaw or they'll do a basic cut at the abattoir (but I've not checked the costings). Wishaw abattoir is good too, again not sure of their charges - but their details are on the slaughterhouse section of http://scottishpigs.co.uk (http://scottishpigs.co.uk) give them a phone (mention the SPKA ;)) and find out  :wave:
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: Beewyched on April 04, 2011, 10:32:01 am
That's brill Karen - we'll live in hope  :D

Though wouldn't have minded needing to travel your way (once the trailer probs are sorted) - the muffins were yummy  :yum: ;)
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: robert waddell on April 04, 2011, 10:48:17 am
i was under the impression that paisley stopped more than 2 years ago(it was the cost to run the scalding tanks)
you are spoiled for choice  ardrossan dunblane shotts wishaw and carluke some have to travel further to get to there nearest one
and yes prices do vary drastically :wave:
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: Beewyched on April 04, 2011, 10:56:25 am
Hey - maybe if I call Paisley twice a week & NAG - no seriously I'd never get away with it with my accent  ;D

Robert - will follow your advice & ring round nearer the time.  Though from the behaviour of a certain young man it'll be sooner rather than later  ;)

Karen - that's NOT SOS by the way  :love: :pig:
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: HappyHippy on April 04, 2011, 11:41:57 am
I thought Ramsey's in Carluke only did butchery  ???
Do they slaughter there too ?
I'll need to make further enquiries..................... ;)
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: robert waddell on April 04, 2011, 11:47:14 am

yes they do the whole process    but dear then again you have a saleable product :wave:
but only  :wave:up to 90 kilos :wave:
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: Beewyched on April 07, 2011, 07:33:03 pm
Suppose we will have to "weigh-up"  ;) the costs of transport against charges, which will also be dependant on how many we have ready at the time.

Hey, at least we don't have to give them any feed now the grass is growing  ;D
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: ukag0972 on April 08, 2011, 05:51:38 pm
All our pigs go to ramsays!

We drop off the pigs on a Thursday afternoon and get them back 3 weeks later vacuum packed! Absolutely fabulous bacon and sausages!

Book early as they only do 6 private pigs a week
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: robert waddell on April 08, 2011, 05:58:41 pm
LEE what are ramseys charging now for the whole process :wave:
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: ukag0972 on April 08, 2011, 08:37:00 pm
Its dependant on the weight but it averages out to about £140 per pig

Well worth it!!
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: HappyHippy on April 08, 2011, 08:48:31 pm
 :o :o :o :o :o
Eeeek ! Think I'll stick with Chapmans - cost me £168 for 3 (only 1 was cured right enough, but still !)
I would dearly love to taste some though - see if that extra cost is worth it  :yum:
Karen x
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: robert waddell on April 08, 2011, 09:25:47 pm
the prices have went up dont think it matters  as to the taste  :wave:
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: Beewyched on April 09, 2011, 06:55:46 am
Still no luck with Paisley  :(
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: ukag0972 on April 09, 2011, 01:31:00 pm
If you think that's expensive, I took an old sow to Arran, just over £500 for burgers and sausages!
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: HappyHippy on April 09, 2011, 01:41:55 pm
Do you think the cost is justified Lee ? I'm just wondering if there really is a big enough difference in the finished product to justify the extra costs ? Was it the size of the sow that meant you took her to Arran ? or was it just to give her a wee boat trip (or any other more sensible reason, sorry  ::) :D)  ;D ;D ;D
I'm not trying to be contentious, I just want to find out your thoughts  ;) :wave:
Karen x
Title: Re: Kune Kune for eating
Post by: ukag0972 on April 09, 2011, 06:07:09 pm
I don't mind the cost at Ramsays, we've used them for a number of years but they will only take pigs up to 100kg. They skin them too so no excess fat! The meat is also presented really well and there is a choice of smoked/unsmoked, flavor of sausage and burger and just a generally great service.
The Arran pig was taken there because of her size but also because they need to be tested for something(whose name has escaped me) after a year old. That price was not including the ferry, but I atleast the foodmiles would be low on that occasion!!!