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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: Helencus on December 25, 2010, 09:53:44 pm
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Hi I'm a bit worried about my kim. She's due to farrow in 11 days so yesterday we brought her and Boris in the barn in their pens. The plan was to bring aggie in as well as she is due 2 days later but she would not come out the pen despite every temptation we could put in front of her she wouldn't budge so we will try again tomorrow hopefully she wil be more inclined as she's been on her own for 2 days now, anyway Kim has seemed a little less keen on her feed for a few days now and seems a bit depressed today.
Is this likely to be because she's quite close? Would she be missing being outside and close to aggie and boris? She's eating around 2 of the 3 lbs of feed she gets morning and night. As they're all fed together usually I guess this could be how much she eats I just didnt know it before but something is nagging me that she's not herself. Am I just a paranoid newbie breeder do you think ? Should I get her checked over? Any advice or things I should be looking for?
I'm also praying aggie is less stubborn tomorrow as it worries me she's on her own in the cold too.. Any tips for tempting stubborn girls would also be appreciated.
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i cant help with any of your questions but i hope everything is ok and i hope the farrowing goes ok :hshoe: :wave:
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We find lots of different pre-farrowing "moods" in our sows. Going a bit off their food does occasionally happen, but providing she's still eating 2lb, would not worry too much.
First rule of any pig not eating is check their water - the "dry" feed needs lots of water - probably not relevant in your case as she's eating some, but would be worth checking that she has enough water and has found it in her new environment.
If she is just on sow pellets - would be worth supplementing with something to see if she's just in a funny mood - try some apples , quite often they'll eat fruit when they are not in the mood for dry food.
But unless she really goes off food, would not really worry.
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I'm also praying aggie is less stubborn tomorrow as it worries me she's on her own in the cold too.. Any tips for tempting stubborn girls would also be appreciated.
If I had any idea how to deal with stubborn women, I'd be the most famous man on the planet!
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I have found that some of my pigs go off their feed a few days before they farrow. This is because there is less room in her tummy as the piglets are getting bigger in the last 2 weeks of giving birth. When she farrows her apatite will return and depending on the numbers of piglets she is suckling she will have an apatite that would choke a horse. As for your other stubborn sow please consider not feeding her in the morning and leave her to get quite hungry and she should come into the barn letting her starve for a few hours which should make it easier for you to get her in (this worked for me). If the ground is well frozen I know that my pigs don't like walking on it. In this cold weather try to insulate the pen your pig will be in
Oaklandpigs, If I knew how to deal with stubborn men I would have a wee fortune made (3 men in my house)
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Thanks oaklands really appreciate that. She loves bananas will try her with a few tomorrow to gauge her keeness. In terms of water she has loads and she knows where it is and seems to be drinking ok. She just seems 'off' but like you say could just be because shes farrowing. I'll keep an eye on her the next few days tho. She seems chatty enough 'talking' to me and loving a good scratch but very inactive for her as well as off feed. Just a worry really.
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Thanks Lillian I left her all day yesterday without feed trying to coax her out but to no avail even tried bananas but nope not having it. In the end I had to give in as it was getting dark and I had to feed her as she needed it with this cold. Tomorrow we have a few more helpers so fingers crossed. I think part of the problem is the frozen ground and it's very rutted where they've rooted, so hard to walk on.
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Oaklandpigs, If I knew how to deal with stubborn men I would have a wee fortune made (3 men in my house)
Men - stubborn??? Surely you have mis-typed there??? Have a great xmas ! :D
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it is a great burden that i carry always being right posted by lillians O/H
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Well aggie decided to move today the key was putting straw all over the ramp of the trailer and makin sure she was good and hungry only took 45 mins and just 5 after recovered the ramp in straw, wish I'd thought of it sooner! Kimmie is happier now her sister is near by but still eating slowly. She ate all of her feedbit over the course of a few hours and same with tea. She is much much bigger than aggie so I suspect she is going to have a large litter possibly why shes slow to eat then no room I think. Anyway all inside now and hopefully it's going to warm up the next few days so hopefully will be above freezing when they farrow.
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no experience with pigs can only go with horses but they can only take small amounts when they are getting near to foaling, the babies take up all the room, so guess its the same with all expectant mums, good luck :hshoe:
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It's the same with dogs. As a bitch nears her time I start to spread her meals over the day - sometimes as many as 7 or 8 smaller meals rather than the 2 or three previously
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I think that's what I need to do Annie. I'm off now til 10th jan deliberately so I could be home and concentrate on them while they farrow I'll have to feed her 3 or 4 times a day.
Anyone tell me do they usually come on time or does it vary? I'm very sure of kimmies covering date so she is definitely due 5th jan are they like humans tho and come anything upto 2 weeks late?
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on the date day before or day after you will see them trying to kick start the motor bike before they start
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Kick start the motor bike?not sure I follow ???
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back leg stroking the belly
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Oh.. I'll look for that then .. Thanks Lillian :-)))
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Lucky you being off work when farrowing is about to happen, you'll have the time to spend days staring at little piglets!
Good luck to the sows!
it is a great burden that i carry always being right posted by lillians O/H
I'm very democratic, everybody's entitled to my opinion! :D
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Warning when piglet watching dont forget to keep yourself warm. Nothing worse than a dose of cramp in a muddy field.
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Will be in the barn but already asked my mountaineering brother to lend me a few bits of warm kit, he has a coat that's upto everest temps. If it doesn't warm up I'll need it. Kimmie seems much happier today now her sister is next door. Eating slower but having all feed just spacedbout so that's less of a worry now. Just praying it warms up so the piglets get a decent start.
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now remember if its baltic for you imagine what it is like for the piglets wet small 2/4 lbs and in shock (just born )rub them with straw or a rag to dry them and warm them good luck
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Ooh, waiting to hear... I hope it all goes well for you and mum to be.
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Thanks scotelf 6 days to go for kimmie 8 for aggie really excited but also nervous. Fingers crossed all goes well.
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Hope the weather stays mild for you. Have you got a heat pad for the crush?
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Thanks hM I have heat lamps but did wonder if the pads were better . What do you think?
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Not available here, so only used heat lamps. I am sure it will all be fine, just keep them all warm. And yourself too. Not long now.....
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Will do HM. Kim is huge now but Aggie much smaller. Didn't see her mated so she might in fact be a few weeks behind. We will have to see.