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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: monty on November 05, 2008, 08:45:51 pm

Title: light
Post by: monty on November 05, 2008, 08:45:51 pm
hi i put a bulb in my hen hut they go to roost about 5 pm i been putting the bulb on at 8 pm  been told ill get more eggs anyone else do this ?
Title: Re: light
Post by: hexhammeasure on November 05, 2008, 11:17:36 pm
not quite. we used to have the light come on just before dark UNTIL about 8pm and the have it come on again at about 6am till it gets light. The main reason we did this is because we had quails in a cage inside the hen house and it did help them lay more eggs. You do need to watch that the birds don't OVERLAY as this drains calcium from their bones and you start getting soft or thin shells
Title: Re: light
Post by: Rosemary on November 06, 2008, 08:26:02 pm
Hens need about 14 hours of light to lay. Ideally you want the light to come on at whatever time you need to give 14 hours - so if the sunset is at 4pm, you want the light to come on at 2am. It is preferable for hens to have a natural dusk.
Title: Re: light
Post by: monty on November 07, 2008, 06:48:00 pm
WELL A POULTRY FARMER TOLD ME 17 HOURS FOR MOST EGGS
Title: Re: light
Post by: Rosemary on November 07, 2008, 07:30:05 pm
Don't shout. 14 hours is my understanding. We don't light our hens - we let them go off lay in winter a bit. There is some iseful information on the Soil Association website - that's where the natural dusk comes from - so thay they naturally go to roost.
Title: Re: light
Post by: doganjo on November 07, 2008, 08:31:16 pm
The more light you give them the better if you want plenty eggs, but a little less light will ensure they sleep and will  produce healthier birds, but a little less eggs - pay your money take your choice.  I prefer happy healthy birds.
Annie
Title: Re: light
Post by: Rosemary on November 07, 2008, 10:40:36 pm
This is from the Soil Association guide

"Artificial lighting will normally be necessary to ensure
continuity of egg production. However, ‘daylight’ should not
exceed 16 hours and should only extend the day in the morning.
The day must end with a natural dusk."
Title: Re: light
Post by: doganjo on November 10, 2008, 08:07:02 pm
Don't shout. 14 hours is my understanding. We don't light our hens - we let them go off lay in winter a bit. There is some iseful information on the Soil Association website - that's where the natural dusk comes from - so thay they naturally go to roost.
My friends in Sweden have 40 watt bulbs on and their birds are inside now (a huge area under the house) because of the weather - they were wondering if they should increase that to 60 watt bulbs.  Or should they put in a fluorescent strip?  Does the light strength make any difference?
Title: Re: light
Post by: Rosemary on November 11, 2008, 08:22:24 pm
I don't know - the SA website might be worth a look.
Title: Re: light
Post by: Hilarysmum on November 12, 2008, 07:49:59 am
I suppose to be really technical "natural daylight" bulbs would be the best that is if you can still get them.
Title: Re: light
Post by: doganjo on November 12, 2008, 02:01:12 pm
Can't see anything on SAC website.
Title: Re: light
Post by: monty on November 12, 2008, 09:57:22 pm
they are laying well now with the light just a pain cos im running it off car batterys uses a battery a night constantly charging ??? ???
Title: Re: light
Post by: Rosemary on November 12, 2008, 10:49:16 pm
Not SAC - Soil Association.
Title: Re: light
Post by: doganjo on November 12, 2008, 11:08:00 pm
Sorry, that's what I meant.  I know SAC is something different.  Maybe I'm not looking in he right place.  It's a very big website
Title: Re: light
Post by: Wellieboots on December 09, 2008, 06:13:12 pm
I gotta query this as as my black rocks are still laying "all guns blazin" and they get let out around 0730 and shut up about 1630..ish. They are totally free ranging over about 2 acres but don't seem to understand the reduction in daylight. They are about 30 weeks old and were late layers so maybe they have a backlog!?

I know that chooks are born with the total amount of eggs they will lay (bit like 'oomans) & hybrids are better layers but this current run seems almost excessive (although we are managing to sell them at work!).

I think there is the current/perceived wisdom and then there is chicken wisdom which at times might just say "wotever, am I bovvered, I'm layingetoverit innit"...as it were to paraphrase modern chicken talk....ahem!
Title: Re: light
Post by: countrygirlatheart on December 17, 2008, 07:12:04 pm
Mine too seem to be ignoring the lack of light !   Mine are out about 7.45 and in at 4pm ish and still getting 3 or 4 eggs a day from 4 hens.  They are all young tho - all were bought as POL at the end of May - perhaps this has something to do with it ?  Or is it their new extended run and getting a couple of tomatoes most days !! they go mad for the tomatoes by the way !
Title: Re: light
Post by: syde house chooks on December 20, 2008, 12:43:21 pm
My chooks who have all hatched since the spring , haven't laid one single egg, yet I went down today to let them out and found 4 eggs, I had given up on getting any til it got lighter, but someone has decided to start laying this week. Perhaps they decided to lay as a special birthday pressie, as it is my birthday today!! they must have known. I am now hopefully going to get more!
Title: Re: light
Post by: Rosemary on December 20, 2008, 07:04:11 pm
Happy birthday! Enjoy your present!