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Livestock => Cattle => Topic started by: StephB on November 13, 2020, 07:30:58 pm

Title: Cattle Wormer advice
Post by: StephB on November 13, 2020, 07:30:58 pm
I have just housed my cows.  (2 Angus / 1 Jersey).  They are 2 years old and all currently about 6 months in calf.


I noticed that two of them have a slight cough which I hadn't heard when they were out.


I have been looking into getting them wormed but am slightly confused as to which wormer is best to get?.


I want one that includes Fluke, but what product do you all use?  I see there is a variety of wormers that are either injected, drenched or poured on.  How do I choose which one is best?.


Would love to just hear which product you all use to help me pick a popular one.


thanks in advance.
Steph
Title: Re: Cattle Wormer advice
Post by: landroverroy on November 13, 2020, 07:56:26 pm
As you've now got them housed, I would use a pour on - Ivomec, or similar. It will treat lungworm (possible cause of coughing), as well as other internal parasites. In addition it will treat external parasites, which are common in housed cattle, and is easy to apply.   
Title: Re: Cattle Wormer advice
Post by: SallyintNorth on November 13, 2020, 08:48:18 pm
If you plan to milk the Jersey, check the contras on the flukicide you plan to use.  Some flukicides cannot be given to cows whose milk will ever be drunk (by humans), some not within 60 days of calving (so you'd be fine.) 

If you have reason to think they may have fluke, then (if milk for human consumption is not an issue), the usual protocol is dose on housing and again 6-8 weeks later.  That way any eggs or immatures the first dose doesn't get will get wiped out by the second dose.

On the beef / lamb farm in Cumbria, we wormed youngstock on first turnout after weaning, and they got a mineral bolus then too, and fluked adults as above on housing. Other than that, no worming unless there was a problem. 

Title: Re: Cattle Wormer advice
Post by: twizzel on November 13, 2020, 09:17:23 pm
Your vet will be able to advise and probably supply an appropriate wormer, so I would speak to them rather than take advice from an open forum. We currently use an ivermectin/closantel pour on which we like as it’s easy to administer, covers worms, adult fluke and lice/mites but it’s very expensive and has a long meat withdrawal.
Title: Re: Cattle Wormer advice
Post by: YorkshireLass on November 26, 2020, 08:25:47 pm
Yep, speak to your vet, they will know if there is resistance locally to certain treatments. Only treat for what is a problem - all-in-one products are driving resistance when used to solve a single problem.


Out if interest, what makes you think worms rather than e.g. pneumonia?
Title: Re: Cattle Wormer advice
Post by: oor wullie on November 27, 2020, 10:10:02 pm
Have you considered getting faecal egg counts done?

Last year, despite our cattle having access to wet ground, egg counts showed next to no fluke or worms so we didn't need to worm.

I think it is quite easy (and an increasing problem) to get worming wrong and lead to longer term problems with resistance.