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Livestock => Cattle => Topic started by: Sprig on November 05, 2020, 10:21:18 am

Title: Calf rearing/veal
Post by: Sprig on November 05, 2020, 10:21:18 am
I am quite early in my thought process but would probably like to raise some calves next year. Does anyone here do that? Any top tips? I am also wondering if I might send them to slaughter young and sell as veal. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: Calf rearing/veal
Post by: twizzel on November 05, 2020, 10:51:53 am
Buy your calves from a high health herd with good colostrum management- BVD, johnes, IBR free would be my first tip!
Title: Re: Calf rearing/veal
Post by: Sprig on November 05, 2020, 11:08:10 am
Thanks Twizzel.
Title: Re: Calf rearing/veal
Post by: SallyintNorth on November 05, 2020, 02:42:45 pm
We send our homebred calves off, usually unweaned, at 10 months ish.  They've been on their mum's milk and grass, never had cake and never had stress, and the meat is awesome.

The meat won't be as awesome reared by hand, but it was worth telling you, I thought.

I've reared bought-in calves before, both on and not on a cow, and if rearing by hand then my advice is :

Title: Re: Calf rearing/veal
Post by: SallyintNorth on November 05, 2020, 03:06:47 pm
Two recent calves away from here :

1) Luther (1/4 Jersey 1/4 Red Devon 1/2 Angus.)  Castrated at one week.  Not weaned, grass and milk only.  Sent away at 10 months old, unweaned, 244kgs deadweight
2) Odin (1/2 Jersey 1/2 Angus.)  Uncastrated.  Mother died at 1 month old, hand-reared on cows' milk (not from here but fresh from the cows) from thereon.  Weaned at 3 months.  A bit of grass pellets once a day, otherwise just grass (decent pasture) from thereon.  Sent away at 7 months old, 122 kgs deadweight.

Odin was the half-brother of Flare, the mother of the first.  (Flare was Hillie Jersey x Red Devon.)

Not directly comparable, of course, but some of the difference was age, some breeding and some the difference in reared on mum vs hand-reared.

This year we have Northern Dairy Shorthorn cross calves, one born here and one bought in (one calf born dead so we bought a replacement from the herd we got the in-calf heifers from.)  So far I am well impressed.  Much hardier than Jerseys, much better shape (more meat at the back end), and they are growing on well.  The one born here is 1/4 Jersey (mum is 1/2 Jersey 1/2 NDS) and the bought-in is Friesian x NDS.  The same cow is feeding both, with both getting a bit of a top-up from the other cow (who is 1/4 Jersey.) 
Title: Re: Calf rearing/veal
Post by: Sprig on November 05, 2020, 05:20:14 pm
Sally, thanks so much that has been brilliantly helpful. I really appreciate you taking the time to give me so much detail.
Title: Re: Calf rearing/veal
Post by: twizzel on November 05, 2020, 06:20:33 pm
I would agree with sally on everything apart from the hay bit- baby calves need good quality straw and calf pellets, hay will make them “gutty” and not develop the rumen as well. We fed our odd orphaned beef calves twice a day from day olds, between 3-4litres a feed (3 litres an absolute minimum, building up as they got older).
Title: Re: Calf rearing/veal
Post by: Sprig on November 05, 2020, 06:42:45 pm
I had read that about hay, thank-you.
Title: Re: Calf rearing/veal
Post by: SallyintNorth on November 05, 2020, 08:50:24 pm
Well, we can agree that they need good quality straw ;).  And I would agree that top quality barley straw alone would be better than poor, old or scratchy hay; if they do have hay it must be excellent quality soft hay for the best outcome.