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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: Belladonna01 on June 29, 2020, 09:30:20 pm

Title: poisoning help
Post by: Belladonna01 on June 29, 2020, 09:30:20 pm
Help needs , my 3month old doe has eaten something poisonous, and is suffering. what is the  urgent treatment ? I've ground down charcoal,and was going to add to cold tea then tube her is this ok?/ others say beer and baking powder
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: Anke on June 29, 2020, 10:19:17 pm
What has she eaten, and can you not take her to the vet? At this age she should just travel on your lap, as long as someone else can drive?


And yes, if rhododendron poisoning (or similar) - activated charcoal and strong tea.


Is she being sick?
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: Anke on June 29, 2020, 10:19:39 pm
Black tea.
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: Rhanson21 on June 29, 2020, 10:50:13 pm
You need to use activated charcoal, not grilling charcoal. I'm hoping I misunderstood you ground down charcoal. Grilling charcoal has chemicals added to it.
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: Belladonna01 on June 30, 2020, 12:23:04 am
Thank you Anke for your answers, I was quite desperate at the time of posting. At the time the vet wasn't available. However taking your advice and the vets I crushed charcoal into powder and mixed with tea, and gave slowly by syringe to the side of her mouth. two hours later and she has improved ,no more green stinky gunk, and more stable on her feet. I feel its a remedy. Many thanks
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: Anke on June 30, 2020, 02:44:10 pm
Hope she made it through the night and is better now. Did you manage to identify what she ate?
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: bj_cardiff on June 30, 2020, 03:31:22 pm
Glad she's better - however, if your vet was unavailiable for an emergency I think you really need to look for a new vet..!
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: harmony on June 30, 2020, 06:57:22 pm
Glad she's better - however, if your vet was unavailiable for an emergency I think you really need to look for a new vet..!


I would give this some thought especially at the current time. You may have been really unlucky that all the vets were out on other emergency calls - it happens. They maybe short staffed with covid, vets shielding etc.

When they got back to you they gave good advice.
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: Belladonna01 on July 02, 2020, 10:40:35 pm
Thanks all that gave input. I am guessing she ate Rhodedendrom.   I gave her natural charcoal  crushed in pestle and mortar along with tea. Within two hours there were signs of stability.   The next morning I gave the charcoal mix again,she took hardly any  bottle fedmilk  which she is on having been rejected by the mother, or feed later that day,.By evening i gave her a bunch of oak leaves  which she dived into and devoured  with haste. Since then back to normal. Big worry and panic at the time. Great group ...
 :excited:
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: arobwk on July 03, 2020, 01:10:58 pm
That's great news, but may I be so rude as to ask why you chose your forum name @Belladonna01 ?
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: Belladonna01 on July 03, 2020, 01:14:02 pm
Strange  question , lol, but named after my dog
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: arobwk on July 03, 2020, 01:34:40 pm
Not strange really - Atropa Belladonna is Deadly Nightshade!  Pretty much poisonous to everything.  Your poisoned goat incident simply reminded me that your forum name has that association.  On it's own Belladonna is such a lovely sounding name though.

Edit:  Seems rabbits, some birds and even cows will eat DN berries apparently!!  I have yet to find comment on whether it affects them adversely in any way!   
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: Anke on July 03, 2020, 08:12:29 pm
Thanks all that gave input. I am guessing she ate Rhodedendrom.   I gave her natural charcoal  crushed in pestle and mortar along with tea. Within two hours there were signs of stability.   The next morning I gave the charcoal mix again,she took hardly any  bottle fedmilk  which she is on having been rejected by the mother, or feed later that day,.By evening i gave her a bunch of oak leaves  which she dived into and devoured  with haste. Since then back to normal. Big worry and panic at the time. Great group ...
 :excited:


Phew.... I am pleased she pulled through - can you eliminiate all rhododendron type plants from your land?
Title: Re: poisoning help
Post by: Scarlet.Dragon on July 04, 2020, 10:01:56 am
Thanks all that gave input. I am guessing she ate Rhodedendrom.   I gave her natural charcoal  crushed in pestle and mortar along with tea. Within two hours there were signs of stability.   The next morning I gave the charcoal mix again,she took hardly any  bottle fedmilk  which she is on having been rejected by the mother, or feed later that day,.By evening i gave her a bunch of oak leaves  which she dived into and devoured  with haste. Since then back to normal. Big worry and panic at the time. Great group ...
 :excited:


Phew.... I am pleased she pulled through - can you eliminiate all rhododendron type plants from your land?

It sounds like you were incredibly lucky!!!  I'm with Anke, if at all possible you need to eradicate the rhododendron, azalea, pieris and similar poisonous plants from any areas she can access.