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Smallholding => Equipment => Topic started by: Gardners Cottage on May 31, 2020, 01:00:19 am

Title: trailer
Post by: Gardners Cottage on May 31, 2020, 01:00:19 am
Hi guys,
not sure if I am posting in the right subsection but feel free to 'address me' to the right place.
 
I have a B type driving license. I should be able use trailer + car of about 3.5ton. This should allow me to pull few sheeps in a light trailer.. I have about 2 ton car. What if I need to tug more? Do I actually need to get a proper new license or overall it is very difficult you get weighted, would gambling not to get stopped be sufficient?

Also, would a car insurance cover also for the trailer or is it something additional? Do they need to be MOTed?

I am not an expert..please help,

Thanks
Title: Re: trailer
Post by: Womble on May 31, 2020, 09:47:32 am
First thing - what does your license actually say?


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If you just have "B" (car), that's different to "BE" (car plus trailer).

That's not to say you can't tow a trailer with just B, but you'll have a different trailer weight limit.
Title: Re: trailer
Post by: chrismahon on May 31, 2020, 10:07:48 am
Trailers in the UK don't need to be MOT'd and they carry the registration number of the towing vehicle. Your car will have a plate on it telling you the maximum you can tow. Your car insurance will only cover the car but should be valid with the trailer. It may cover the trailer contents as well? We took out separate insurance for our box van trailer which covered accident damage to trailer and contents, theft and vandalism, but it wasn't cheap. Sorry if it's all changed now as it's a while since I lived in England?


As an aside, if anyone brings a trailer to France to keep here it will need a certificate of conformity, registration for a unique vehicle number and insurance. The towing weight maximum is 350Kg unless you take a test and have a yearly medical.
Title: Re: trailer
Post by: harmony on May 31, 2020, 10:50:05 am

It isn't about getting a different licence it is about not towing anymore weight than you are allowed. If you need to tow more then you need to upgrade your towing vehicle.


Yes, you can risk it but if you have an accident it wont be worth it. And also VOSA set up road blocks to pull in vehicle to check this type of thing, so if you happen to be pulled in you will be caught.


Don't assume your insurance covers towing or livestock. Check first.
Title: Re: trailer
Post by: Gardners Cottage on May 31, 2020, 11:18:52 am
Hi guys, thanks a lot! Driving license only says ‘B’ but effectively I can tow small trailer. Will check with the insurance directly before committing to any purchase! Thanks
Title: Re: trailer
Post by: doganjo on May 31, 2020, 12:41:30 pm
First thing - what does your license actually say?


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If you just have "B" (car), that's different to "BE" (car plus trailer).

That's not to say you can't tow a trailer with just B, but you'll have a different trailer weight limit.
What does the line fklnpq mean?  My licence is valid till Jan 2023 for that, and also for AM, A, B1, B, BE - and what do the numbers in column 12 mean?
Title: Re: trailer
Post by: twizzel on May 31, 2020, 12:49:35 pm
B category is passed after 1997 so you can tow an unbraked trailer up to 750kg or a braked trailer provided the Maximum Authorised Mass of the car plus trailer is under 3500kg (3.5t). I tow with an Audi Q5 (1800kg) and a small unbraked sheep trailer 750kg- this is fine. I also tow a braked box trailer plated to 1100kg (weighs 600kg, so have 500kg of weight to carry). But I can’t tow my 3.5t big cattle box, even if it’s empty.