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Pets & Working Animals => Dogs => Topic started by: Anke on November 21, 2019, 04:33:47 pm

Title: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: Anke on November 21, 2019, 04:33:47 pm
Very unhappy lab here... got his balls taken off today... (this is my first ever male dog so no previous experience). When does the whining stop? He is completely thrown by this, doesn't know if he is coming or going, if he needs to go for a pee or not, just so unhappy.

He had Metacam, next dose due tomorrow morning. Will he whine all night?
I am feeling really bad about this, but he is not for breeding so needed to be done. (and I always do my male kids and lambs, so I am not unused to the idea at all.)
Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: Fleecewife on November 21, 2019, 05:54:37 pm
To cheer yourself up, take a look at some of the you tube clips of cats which have just woken up from the anaesthetic to discover THEY'RE NOT THERE !!


When our puppy was done I seem to remember he felt better lying on a nice clean soft bed right in front of the fire.  I don't remember any whining, so maybe the sutures are tight, or similar.  How old is he, as that may make a difference?
Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: SallyintNorth on November 21, 2019, 06:00:54 pm
It’s not the specific op, it’s the anaesthetic.  Coming out of it and recovering from it is highly individual, and whining is a common symptom.

I’m lucky with Dot, she is a bit mopey for 24 hours and then jumps up like a jack in the box, says “Right, I’m better, where are the sheep?”  (And is then not impressed at all at the two weeks’ lead walks only after an op requiring stitches!).  But I’ve known dogs in the past who whimpered and whined for 24-36 hours.  Not usually longer than that though  :relief:
Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: DavidandCollette on November 21, 2019, 06:04:10 pm
You said that he doesn't know if he is coming or going..........sorry :-)
Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: Anke on November 21, 2019, 07:13:05 pm
You said that he doesn't know if he is coming or going..........sorry :-)
Well that just had me laughing out loud.... Bentley is 17 months now, so it was time to do it... now lying in front of the fire and moaning, but he is eating treats, so I guess for a lab that means it's getting better.

I guess it is the anaesthetics as well...
Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: doganjo on November 21, 2019, 07:23:09 pm
Yup, I agree it's the knock out drops.  I had Missy spayed on Thursday, she was a wee bit woozy when I was asked to come and take her home but falling about and shouting the odds (typical Brittany - they really get on their high horse if they feel offended).  Vet couldn't stand it any more  :roflanim:  She slept and moaned alternately on Thursday evening, but still jumped on my bed at bedtime and pushed me over to the edge.  Next morning she ate her own breakfast and started on Belle's before I realised - back to normal.  Keep her on a lead for two weeks they said  :innocent: - Ha, that's joke!!!  :gloomy:  A Brittany on a lead is NOT funny!  :rant:
Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: SallyintNorth on November 21, 2019, 09:30:11 pm
You said that he doesn't know if he is coming or going..........sorry :-)

 :roflanim:
Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: Anke on November 22, 2019, 11:35:46 am
.  Keep her on a lead for two weeks they said  :innocent: - Ha, that's joke!!!  :gloomy:  A Brittany on a lead is NOT funny!  :rant:
Yes Bentley thinks not going for a long off-lead walk is just unacceptable. He is also really miffed by having to wear a cone... but we can't risk him trying to lick himself, which he is doing the minute it comes off....
Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: SallyintNorth on November 22, 2019, 02:55:51 pm
Keep her on a lead for two weeks they said  :innocent: - Ha, that's joke!!!  :gloomy:  A Brittany on a lead is NOT funny!  :rant:

The two weeks’ “no jumping and minimal walks, lead only” was by far the most stressful part of Dot’s mastectomy last year.  And yes, she had to wear the hated inflatable collar and the t-shirt to stop her cleaning the wound. 

When I had a collie x GSD castrated many years ago, he too was an incredibly active dog and wasn’t going to cope with lead walks.  So I used to give him lots of brain work to do on the walks.  It was September, and one thing he learned was how to eat blackberries, which he then taught the other dog! 

Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: Anke on November 22, 2019, 03:50:33 pm
Oh well, Bentley knows how to eat blackberries, and no I didn't teach him... he just knew! It was a nightmare trying to combine taking him out and picking a bowl for crumble, he was so much faster than me!
Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: pgkevet on November 22, 2019, 11:18:57 pm
It's not the anaesthetic. Almost certainly it's an analgesic - and commonly now that is buprenorphine (an opiod) and frequently causes dysphoria. Its one of the sad areas of modern medicine and legislation where it is considered less valid as a drug of abuse than morphine or pethidine and less likely to be monitored as heavily. Dysphoria on opiods and opiates is common but personally I preferred to carry on using good ol' pethidine with a simple 4 hr duration and far les dysphoria than these longer acting substances that ocassionally really messed up a sensitive dog. They all needed locking up and recording anyway.
Title: Re: OMG - what have we done....
Post by: cloddopper on November 23, 2019, 01:28:42 am
   :idea:  Just had to get hold of myself and do the Squirrels checks to see that Alison hasn't been at me , as I often fee dopey for hours from the effects of my chronic pain meds .  :relief: